jerky
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Post by jerky on Dec 5, 2021 20:23:09 GMT -5
I know it's weird to say, but actually Engram is the best player on offense right now. He actually made plays today, and he has barely dropped any passes this year. Are you Joe Judge or Dave Gettlemen? You tell me who's been playing better than Engram this year on offense? I know everyone hates him, but he's been decent this year.
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miss86
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Post by miss86 on Dec 5, 2021 20:39:23 GMT -5
Cause I'm sick of clown shows. And that is what I think of and his one liners. The Giants are definitely a clown show. I actually think that this message board could run the team better than the people we have running it now. Yea, let make our draft choices. Man, I guess you do like clowns.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 5, 2021 20:43:46 GMT -5
The Giants are definitely a clown show. I actually think that this message board could run the team better than the people we have running it now. Yea, let make our draft choices. Man, I guess you do like clowns. I didn't necessarily say him. I just asked why not. To be honest, you could do a better job than the current front office. On a scale of 1-10, how much confidence do you have in this front office as is? Mine is at a 1.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 5, 2021 21:09:54 GMT -5
by doing the very damn thing they can't seem to do. Build the oline properly, get a legit sideline to sidline guy in the middle find better pass rushers. They can't seem to ever do this, which is why they suck year after year.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 21:20:54 GMT -5
by doing the very damn thing they can't seem to do. Build the oline properly, get a legit sideline to sidline guy in the middle find better pass rushers. They can't seem to ever do this, which is why they suck year after year. Realisticly only 5 draft picks days one and 2 to do all of this ... Mind you if you hit on 50% of your early picks days one and 2 it's a success....
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Post by allnygin on Dec 5, 2021 21:23:53 GMT -5
by doing the very damn thing they can't seem to do. Build the oline properly, get a legit sideline to sidline guy in the middle find better pass rushers. They can't seem to ever do this, which is why they suck year after year. Realisticly only 5 draft picks days one and 2 to do all of this ... Mind you if you hit on 50% of your early picks days one and 2 it's a success.... Right, and the fact he hasn't been able to do that in four years is gross neglect. The fact that the organisation has not been able to rebuild the oline since 2012 is even more so. Serious issues in Mara's little clubhouse.
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Post by Martin on Dec 5, 2021 21:37:47 GMT -5
Execution. Both meanings. LOL!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 21:54:19 GMT -5
Are you Joe Judge or Dave Gettlemen? You tell me who's been playing better than Engram this year on offense? I know everyone hates him, but he's been decent this year. Credit where credit is do. He is a good kid works hard maybe it is paying off for him he is gonna get paid hopefully he plays some where they don't have a pop gun offense.
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te88
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Post by te88 on Dec 5, 2021 21:55:37 GMT -5
Hire an outsider and make them the Team President. This removes the owners from operational roles. The Owners have no role other than cashing cheques.
Then that new team President hires a slash and burn GM who fires just about everybody from the water boy to the head coach. Also cuts and trades players like crazy to accumulate cash and picks.
From there you rebuild a completely new kind of football organization.
Then, when the slash and burn GM is done slashing and burning and the new organizational structure is in place, they leave and a “football” GM is brought in to run the new org. Owners stay out - forever.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 21:59:59 GMT -5
The Giants are definitely a clown show. I actually think that this message board could run the team better than the people we have running it now. Yea, let make our draft choices. Man, I guess you do like clowns. should be Gettlemen and the Mara's makeup artist..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 22:02:36 GMT -5
Hire an outsider and make them the Team President. This removes the owners from operational roles. The Owners have no role other than cashing cheques. Then that new team President hires a slash and burn GM who fires just about everybody from the water boy to the head coach. Also cuts and trades players like crazy to accumulate cash and picks. From there you rebuild a completely new kind of football organization. Then, when the slash and burn GM is done slashing and burning and the new organizational structure is in place, they leave and a “football” GM is brought in to run the new org. Owners stay out - forever. Browns did this kind of with Sashi Brown or what ever his name was, When he got them all the draft capital they canned him and let Dorsey screw it up.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 22:04:16 GMT -5
Hire an outsider and make them the Team President. This removes the owners from operational roles. The Owners have no role other than cashing cheques. Then that new team President hires a slash and burn GM who fires just about everybody from the water boy to the head coach. Also cuts and trades players like crazy to accumulate cash and picks. From there you rebuild a completely new kind of football organization. Then, when the slash and burn GM is done slashing and burning and the new organizational structure is in place, they leave and a “football” GM is brought in to run the new org. Owners stay out - forever. The Cleveland Browns moneyball method (which is what I actually thought Gettleman was trying to do mideast 2018-2019....then proceeded to mess it up in 2019
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Post by FanNYG on Dec 5, 2021 22:55:14 GMT -5
We need to hit home runs for the next 5-7 drafts on each one (at least 2-3 each per draft), plus several miracle coaches that know what they are doing to train them all and the whole team properly. Create strategic goals one by one and accomplish them, (they don't need to be all at once - just get something right consistently and move on to the next goal and so on (sounds easy but it is not - but can be done).
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Post by ocgiant on Dec 5, 2021 23:04:46 GMT -5
We can only express our views and pray this medievel franchise gets the message from the fan base.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 23:05:48 GMT -5
I think the way to fix this thing is find VP of Football Operations not named Mara and never have worked for anyone named Mara, next step is step out of his way and let him hire a GM, he and the GM decide is Judge staying or are they hand picking the next phenom as our head coach, next piece of business research these scouts see who they brought into this nightmare and figure how many contributing players they brought to the franchise, figure out who stays and who goes or does everyone go thats how I would like to see them start.
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FBomb
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Post by FBomb on Dec 5, 2021 23:12:04 GMT -5
Well.....we start with this
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Post by ocgiant on Dec 5, 2021 23:13:23 GMT -5
We can only express our views and pray this medievel franchise gets the message from the fan base. Thanks GL, I am near worn out on my team. I so tired of considering... WR's are out, Thomas is the only legit lineman, Glennon sucked today so I got nothing only DJ would have made that made play etc. when it gets this diluted you clean house and start over that includes Judge just my opinion. We cannot continue to keep bringing the BS forward season after season it's insanity. Yet as long as they fill seats and make the profit margin we are screwed. Sorry I am tired of hearing... but they are trying to build the franchise... I call BS. Just angry...
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