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Post by FBomb on Dec 12, 2021 19:45:53 GMT -5
Judge in the presser again "I'm encouraged with how this team fought" ... this guy is so full of shit - I don't know why he continues to praise his players in these press conferences when THEY"VE BEEN ****ING AWFUL in almost every facet of the game. I didn't watch. How many people were giving him the finger?
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Post by vinnie on Dec 12, 2021 19:52:15 GMT -5
Judge in the presser again "I'm encouraged with how this team fought" ... this guy is so full of shit - I don't know why he continues to praise his players in these press conferences when THEY"VE BEEN ****ING AWFUL in almost every facet of the game. But some will say “what is he supposed to say, that they suck”? YES! Apparently he didn’t learn much from his mentors, BB and Saban call out their team even after they win, they demand perfection, they’re never satisfied, that’s why they’re winners. Nothing is ever good enough until they win the National Championship or Super Bowl. I think I’ve heard both of them even say that after they’ve won championships they take about 2 weeks off and get right back to work.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 19:53:43 GMT -5
Judge in the presser again "I'm encouraged with how this team fought" ... this guy is so full of shit - I don't know why he continues to praise his players in these press conferences when THEY"VE BEEN ****ING AWFUL in almost every facet of the game. But some will say “what is he supposed to say, that they suck”? YES! Apparently he didn’t learn much from his mentors, BB and Saban call out their team even after they win, they demand perfection, they’re never satisfied, that’s why they’re winners. Nothing is ever good enough until they win the National Championship or Super Bowl. I think I’ve heard both of them even say that after they’ve won championships they take about 2 weeks off and get right back to work. Its just comedy at this point
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 12, 2021 20:03:29 GMT -5
I like Joe Judge but he is over his head. This is a very poorly coached tea,. Its not about wins and losses. I literally see coaching mistakes. He may need to go or at least bring in someone who has succeeded to help him. I just think he suffers from a lack of experience. That is why I say no more no experience guys.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 20:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 20:10:30 GMT -5
Yeah, but probably knows more about football and the locker room than you. So, whats the point?
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 12, 2021 20:14:00 GMT -5
Should he be brought back? No. Will he be brought back? Yes.
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Post by southerner on Dec 12, 2021 20:17:21 GMT -5
Honestly, I mean I completely understand two years is not enough time for a coach, but this is ****ing embarrassing. What GM is going to want to keep him let alone work with him? Can't wait to hear how he's encouraged about this team during the press conference. This is Shurmur level bad. Maybe Shurmur was acutally better tbh. At least his offense scored points. No you cannot justify bringing Judge back , and the Giants will not do it…..new HC & GM in 2022! I do not understand why don’t dump these two now.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 20:18:36 GMT -5
Yeah, but probably knows more about football and the locker room than you. So, whats the point? Probably not. Like Parcells always said, kickers don’t have to play, they just have to kick.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 20:19:33 GMT -5
Yeah, but probably knows more about football and the locker room than you. So, whats the point? Probably not. Like Parcells always said, kickers don’t have to play, they just have to kick. LOL. You're delusional my dude. Judging by what I've seen you say from time to time, I think you're over rating yourself a tad bit.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 20:24:18 GMT -5
Probably not. Like Parcells always said, kickers don’t have to play, they just have to kick. LOL. You're delusional my dude. Judging by what I've seen you say from time to time, I think you're over rating yourself a tad bit. Maybe you can take over for Judge. Take Mike Glennon, no OL and receivers who can’t catch and win. Oh i forgot, this awesome defense.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 20:29:46 GMT -5
LOL. You're delusional my dude. Judging by what I've seen you say from time to time, I think you're over rating yourself a tad bit. Maybe you can take over for Judge. Take Mike Glennon, no OL and receivers who can’t catch and win. Oh i forgot, this awesome defense. I'm just a fan nothing more nothing less. I suppose there are more qualified coaches though, shoudln't be to hard as judge has been worse than shurmur.. tough pill to swollow but your guy judge has really shit the bed year two. Hopefully he's not coaching next season, and if he is hopefully he learns how to call a time out.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 12, 2021 20:33:29 GMT -5
I can. Firing Judge would make 3 head coaches on their books (him, Shurmur, and the next guy). They're not firing him because of that.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 20:39:15 GMT -5
Maybe you can take over for Judge. Take Mike Glennon, no OL and receivers who can’t catch and win. Oh i forgot, this awesome defense. I'm just a fan nothing more nothing less. I suppose there are more qualified coaches though, shoudln't be to hard as judge has been worse than shurmur.. tough pill to swollow but your guy judge has really shit the bed year two. Hopefully he's not coaching next season, and if he is hopefully he learns how to call a time out. My guy? I’m not choking on delusional expectations that a career losing QB like Mike Glennon isn’t winning. The team hasn’t won in a decade. The roster is shiat. Complaining about timeouts is as funny as expecting this roster to succeed. Sry today surprised you,
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Post by Jomo on Dec 12, 2021 20:44:26 GMT -5
No we cannot justify bringing back Palooka Joe. (look it up)
We have a glimmer of an opportunity to give us a clean slate to start all over again........again and again.
Chasing a GM without a HC is a plus, even if our "liitle ceo" doesn't recognize it.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 20:45:08 GMT -5
But some will say “what is he supposed to say, that they suck”? YES! Apparently he didn’t learn much from his mentors, BB and Saban call out their team even after they win, they demand perfection, they’re never satisfied, that’s why they’re winners. Nothing is ever good enough until they win the National Championship or Super Bowl. I think I’ve heard both of them even say that after they’ve won championships they take about 2 weeks off and get right back to work. Its just comedy at this point lol
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 20:58:50 GMT -5
I'm just a fan nothing more nothing less. I suppose there are more qualified coaches though, shoudln't be to hard as judge has been worse than shurmur.. tough pill to swollow but your guy judge has really shit the bed year two. Hopefully he's not coaching next season, and if he is hopefully he learns how to call a time out. My guy? I’m not choking on delusional expectations that a career losing QB like Mike Glennon isn’t winning. The team hasn’t won in a decade. The roster is shiat. Complaining about timeouts is as funny as expecting this roster to succeed. Sry today surprised you, what about today makes you think i'm suprised? Joe Judge has sucked man there's no excuse you can bring up in the world that will change that. I'm sorry. However, he's still young maybe this was a good year for the young coach to learn a thing or two.. Otherwise he's garbage and full of shit
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 21:05:22 GMT -5
My guy? I’m not choking on delusional expectations that a career losing QB like Mike Glennon isn’t winning. The team hasn’t won in a decade. The roster is shiat. Complaining about timeouts is as funny as expecting this roster to succeed. Sry today surprised you, what about today makes you think i'm suprised? Joe Judge has sucked man there's no excuse you can bring up in the world that will change that. I'm sorry. However, he's still young maybe this was a good year for the young coach to learn a thing or two.. Otherwise he's garbage and full of shit Mike Glennon and company lol. Read yourself lol. Coach sucks for not winning with cr@p. Maybe you’ll get your wish. They can fire Judge tomorrow, he can go back to the Pats by Tuesday, win a Super Bowl and then get hired to coach a real team. Giants will still be losing. Nobody wins with this but a few need a scapegoat b/c the Mike Glennons, who always lose, didn’t win despite being a -9.5 underdog lol.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 21:11:39 GMT -5
what about today makes you think i'm suprised? Joe Judge has sucked man there's no excuse you can bring up in the world that will change that. I'm sorry. However, he's still young maybe this was a good year for the young coach to learn a thing or two.. Otherwise he's garbage and full of shit Mike Glennon and company lol. Read yourself lol. Coach sucks for not winning with cr@p. Maybe you’ll get your wish. They can fire Judge tomorrow, he can go back to the Pats by Tuesday, win a Super Bowl and then get hired to coach a real team. Giants will still be losing. Nobody wins with this but a few need a scapegoat b/c the Mike Glennons, who always lose, didn’t win despite being a -9.5 underdog lol. Oh i'm sorry I guess I missed the memo when Judge had no say in his personell this past offseason. I guess he didn't over value his O-line and completely neglect it, I guess it wasn't his idea to bring in the very same guy you're using as an excuse for him Glennon, knowing damn well it was most likely going to be a probability he was going to play at some point since Jones hasn't proved he can stay healthy an entire season. I don't care if judge goes on to win a superbowl elsewhere. For the record I don't hate the guy, and sure he's had a shitty hand, but he also owns a good portion of it he's sucked this year. This team SHOULD not have another coach and gm on different timeslines like weve had ever since coughlin.. If Judge comes back next year, whatever I'll hope for the best, but why?
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 21:17:16 GMT -5
My guy? I’m not choking on delusional expectations that a career losing QB like Mike Glennon isn’t winning. The team hasn’t won in a decade. The roster is shiat. Complaining about timeouts is as funny as expecting this roster to succeed. Sry today surprised you, what about today makes you think i'm suprised? Joe Judge has sucked man there's no excuse you can bring up in the world that will change that. I'm sorry. However, he's still young maybe this was a good year for the young coach to learn a thing or two.. Otherwise he's garbage and full of shit lol 😆. Gettleman must be the waterboy and Judge is the GM. Maybe Tynes will fill you in on the hierarchy
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 21:20:27 GMT -5
what about today makes you think i'm suprised? Joe Judge has sucked man there's no excuse you can bring up in the world that will change that. I'm sorry. However, he's still young maybe this was a good year for the young coach to learn a thing or two.. Otherwise he's garbage and full of shit lol 😆. Gettleman must be the waterboy and Judge is the GM. Maybe Tynes will fill you in on the hierarchy Lol fans always see it one way or the other I like this guy a little more so it must be the GM or it must be the HC as to why this team sucks. Great logic. Judge probably has no say at all, in fact yeah thats the problem. This would be an entirely different team if judge just had a say.. No way Getlemen let judge have a voice or a say.. but again, i'm really curious.. Why should judge be back next season? You failed to elaborate as making a half-witted response probably utilized to much of that one brain cell you're clinging onto, so I can look past it. But maybe answer this time. I'm curious to hear.
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Post by lasion2 on Dec 12, 2021 21:32:01 GMT -5
I can. Firing Judge would make 3 head coaches on their books (him, Shurmur, and the next guy). They're not firing him because of that. This is on the nose. I think he’ll be back. I’ll also add; everyone knows that John is making the final call with HC hires. From what I’ve seen, his ego won’t let him believe he’s made 3 large mistakes in a row.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 12, 2021 21:33:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I mean I completely understand two years is not enough time for a coach, but this is ****ing embarrassing. What GM is going to want to keep him let alone work with him? Can't wait to hear how he's encouraged about this team during the press conference. This is Shurmur level bad. Maybe Shurmur was acutally better tbh. At least his offense scored points. I was against firing Judge after only 2 years and wanted to see him without Garrett calling plays but watching this game were not even competitive. Heck I feel after today he'd be lucky to survive not being fired this week. It wouldn't do anything except put everybody else on notice. Let Graham be the interim HC and DC. Like Belichek. I know Glennon at QB sucks but it's no worse than watching Jones. Our passing game sucks no matter who's at QB, no matter which receiver we throw to, and for all you fans who say our offense is boring we emptied every trick play, fake handoff, reverse, laterals, and headstands known to pro football and couldn't gain a yard out of it. The punter threw the ball so high Kevin Durant at 6'11" couldn't have jumped that high to catch the damn thing. Just nothing but total frustration watching this team. Detroit and Houston are better than us. Only the Jets and Jags are worse teams.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 21:33:56 GMT -5
I can. Firing Judge would make 3 head coaches on their books (him, Shurmur, and the next guy). They're not firing him because of that. and again another HC and GM combo on a different timeline. Less than ideal, but I think you're right bc of the reason you stated.
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Post by DJones19 on Dec 12, 2021 21:36:00 GMT -5
Judge said in the post-game that he's thinking long-term and looking at the big picture. Saw a lot of positives.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 21:37:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I mean I completely understand two years is not enough time for a coach, but this is ****ing embarrassing. What GM is going to want to keep him let alone work with him? Can't wait to hear how he's encouraged about this team during the press conference. This is Shurmur level bad. Maybe Shurmur was acutally better tbh. At least his offense scored points. I was against firing Judge after only 2 years and wanted to see him without Garrett calling plays but watching this game were not even competitive. Heck I feel after today he'd be lucky to survive not being fired this week. It wouldn't do anything except put everybody else on notice. Let Graham be the interim HC and DC. Like Belichek. I know Glennon at QB sucks but it's no worse than watching Jones. Our passing game sucks no matter who's at QB, no matter which receiver we throw to, and for all you fans who say our offense is boring we emptied every trick play, fake handoff, reverse, laterals, and headstands known to pro football and couldn't gain a yard out of it. The punter threw the ball so high Kevin Durant at 6'11" couldn't have jumped that high to catch the damn thing. Just nothing but total frustration watching this team. Detroit and Houston are better than us. Only the Jets and Jags are worse teams. Yeah end of the day its honestly way to premature to firing a HC after just 2 seasons IMO, however, we've been in this situation where HCs and GMs are on different timelines, where one gets fired, the other sticks around and someone knew replaces the fired guy. I'm not in favor of judge being fired bc I hate him or think he's complete trash, but to be fair he hasn't been that good, but i'm in favor of it bc I think it's important this team finally has HC/GM on the same timeline and they can build their own roster together.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 12, 2021 21:37:47 GMT -5
lol 😆. Gettleman must be the waterboy and Judge is the GM. Maybe Tynes will fill you in on the hierarchy Lol fans always see it one way or the other I like this guy a little more so it must be the GM or it must be the HC as to why this team sucks. Great logic. Judge probably has no say at all, in fact yeah thats the problem. This would be an entirely different team if judge just had a say.. No way Getlemen let judge have a voice or a say.. but again, i'm really curious.. Why should judge be back next season? You failed to elaborate as making a half-witted response probably utilized to much of that one brain cell you're clinging onto, so I can look past it. But maybe answer this time. I'm curious to hear. in case Tynes hasn't shared the news, this mess has been in place for a decade with the Gettleman circus here since he hired "an adult" named Shumur and tried building around 38 yr old QB. Makes some feel temporarily good about calling for heads. You're no different. Only coach i disagreed with was Shumur, i defended the rest as you have to be blind to not see pathetic this roster is. Can't teach a blind fan to see or a cr@p roster to win.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 12, 2021 21:40:02 GMT -5
Lol fans always see it one way or the other I like this guy a little more so it must be the GM or it must be the HC as to why this team sucks. Great logic. Judge probably has no say at all, in fact yeah thats the problem. This would be an entirely different team if judge just had a say.. No way Getlemen let judge have a voice or a say.. but again, i'm really curious.. Why should judge be back next season? You failed to elaborate as making a half-witted response probably utilized to much of that one brain cell you're clinging onto, so I can look past it. But maybe answer this time. I'm curious to hear. in case Tynes hasn't shared the news, this mess has been in place for a decade with the Gettleman circus here since he hired "an adult" named Shumur and tried building around 38 yr old QB. Makes some feel temporarily good about calling for heads. You're no different. Only coach i disagreed with was Shumur, i defended the rest as you have to be blind to not see pathetic this roster is. Can't teach a blind fan to see or a cr@p rostetr to win. Why should Joe Judge be back next year?
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Post by Martin on Dec 12, 2021 21:42:30 GMT -5
Judge in the presser again "I'm encouraged with how this team fought" ... this guy is so full of shit - I don't know why he continues to praise his players in these press conferences when THEY"VE BEEN ****ING AWFUL in almost every facet of the game. JJ is putting his needs before the team by lying to the media and the fans. He doesn't want to lose his players by throwing them under the bus for fear of losing the team. If he loses his players then he's toast. A real coach should take the blame and throw his players under the bus! Don't worry though J Mara will keep him around at least 1 more year. Mara is as useless as t-its on a bull!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 12, 2021 21:44:15 GMT -5
Giants might not win another game they aren't beating the Boys or the WFT probably not the Eagles and the Bears are playing hard inspired ball tonight against the Pack so they will not be a win either. If that happens it would be malpractice for anyone to be retained. even if they win 1 out of the next 4 no one should be kept around, to many blue chip players passed up trades when they shouldn't an don trade when they should have. Time to turn the page to an out side GM if he wants Judge I will be skeptical.
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