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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 20:43:37 GMT -5
Ok…let’s get something straight….I’ve been here a hell of a lot longer than you…AS A GIANTS FAN…period. That being said, the point I am making is getting Pederson in for an interview. He led the team to a Super Bowl. That fact, plus the rest of the facts of his career just so happen to have taken place in Philly. Doesn’t mean you have to be an Eagles fan to make a legitimate point about it. And yes…Wentz was ass and hurt and Nick Foles was the right choice. Now, to stop talking about the Eagles is perfectly fine by me, however it just so happens to be the basis of what I am suggesting with Pederson. If you don’t like it, too bad. Free country. It is a free country, you can like whoever you like even if your wrong. Suprised you don't know better considering your a fellow Giant fan living in Eagle land. I know enough to say the guy deserves to interview and we also need an OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. Does that sound a little better? Freddie Kitchens sucks and that needs to be fixed as well. I’m not saying PEDERSON is to coordinate. Just so it’s clear.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 11, 2022 20:47:05 GMT -5
Not a chance we bring in Pederson after his tank job with the Eagles. He burned his bridges to NY
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Post by Modog on Jan 11, 2022 20:52:19 GMT -5
It is a free country, you can like whoever you like even if your wrong. Suprised you don't know better considering your a fellow Giant fan living in Eagle land. I know enough to say the guy deserves to interview and we also need an OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. Does that sound a little better? Freddie Kitchens sucks and that needs to be fixed as well. I’m not saying PEDERSON is to coordinate. Just so it’s clear. I actually think he would be worse in a OC role. Remember Doug P never called plays when he was the Chiefs OC. Andy Reid has always called plays, even Now.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 11, 2022 20:56:23 GMT -5
Yea what is this with Bieniemy ? Who wouldn't want an offense like K.C. ? Hire him to fix our offense and leave Graham on Defense. And ST's seemed pretty good as well. If he comes with Mahomes, I'm all for it! HaHa Big A , me too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2022 21:04:34 GMT -5
I know enough to say the guy deserves to interview and we also need an OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. Does that sound a little better? Freddie Kitchens sucks and that needs to be fixed as well. I’m not saying PEDERSON is to coordinate. Just so it’s clear. I actually think he would be worse in a OC role. Remember Doug P never called plays when he was the Chiefs OC. Andy Reid has always called plays, even Now. Pederson likes to “play Madden” I like to call it. His 4th and long shit is a heart attack. But like I said, we need an aggressive approach in this league. It is something that this team has lacked for many seasons. This guy is a SUGGESTION… not a definite must be. I don’t know if the other available coaches rival his philosophy.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 11, 2022 22:40:35 GMT -5
I would be open to Flores I'm thinking that a Schoen/Daboll combination is very possible I like that Combo there is a lot of assistant coaching talent out there at the moment.
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Post by presumablygunner on Jan 11, 2022 23:20:34 GMT -5
Would love Brian Flores in here. Jim Harbaugh currently has the #5 all time winning % amongst NFL coaches at near 70%. Flores is known to be one nobody gets along with…that is why he was fired….Belichek kept him under control. Perfect match for the New York market
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 12, 2022 1:23:27 GMT -5
Oooh ooohh, hire me! I'm a minority too!
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Post by mendy on Jan 12, 2022 4:47:30 GMT -5
Does Graham get a chance at the HC job?
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Post by mendy on Jan 12, 2022 4:51:46 GMT -5
Let’s interview Doug Pederson. He fixed Philly, then Roseman broke it again and ****ed Pederson in the you know where. .............and he threw a game and sold his players down the drain .Hell he got run out of Philly, no.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 6:03:35 GMT -5
Let’s interview Doug Pederson. He fixed Philly, then Roseman broke it again and ****ed Pederson in the you know where. .............and he threw a game and sold his players down the drain .Hell he got run out of Philly, no. I explained all this already.
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Post by Modog on Jan 12, 2022 6:53:34 GMT -5
After reading up on Flores, it sounds like he is another hard ass, know-it-all type. We just went through that with Judge. I think what this team needs is a offensive mined players coach. I am going retract my statement on wanting flores.
Doug P is a players coach, but thats literally his only redeeming quality so No.
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 12, 2022 7:50:41 GMT -5
I like Flores, but I really want us to move away from anyone with ties to the Giants or Bill Belichick. We need to forge our own new identity. Many have been saying the same about anyone immediately tied to Belichick, but this guy has swam as a HC already. This stuff about banging heads with the higher ups, I feel anyone who strives for success is going to do at times. It only comes out as a reason for their departure, when there is nothing else concrete to criticize.
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Post by mattmeyerbud on Jan 12, 2022 7:56:00 GMT -5
I certainly think Bowles is the correct choice, former player, very smart and a great defensive mind. He got screwed on the Jets as he had zero to work with. leftwich and Bienimi are younger offensive gurus…….any of the three work for me. This is my worry. Dealing with Judge for an extra year doesn't sound as bad rathen than locking up with one of those guys for the next 3-4 years. If I had to, i'd choose Bowles but we've already seen he cant handle a shitty team in NY
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Post by mendy on Jan 12, 2022 8:06:09 GMT -5
I certainly think Bowles is the correct choice, former player, very smart and a great defensive mind. He got screwed on the Jets as he had zero to work with. leftwich and Bienimi are younger offensive gurus…….any of the three work for me. This is my worry. Dealing with Judge for an extra year doesn't sound as bad rathen than locking up with one of those guys for the next 3-4 years. If I had to, i'd choose Bowles but we've already seen he cant handle a shitty team in NY Many successful Coach's have had bad first outings,
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Post by mattmeyerbud on Jan 12, 2022 9:05:30 GMT -5
This is my worry. Dealing with Judge for an extra year doesn't sound as bad rathen than locking up with one of those guys for the next 3-4 years. If I had to, i'd choose Bowles but we've already seen he cant handle a shitty team in NY Many successful Coach's have had bad first outings, Very true but the definition of insanity is doing the same exact thing over again and expecting a different result. This would pretty much be the same exact thing. I think odds of him succeeding here would be much less likely than say somewhere like Denver
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 12, 2022 9:08:35 GMT -5
No Flores or Bowles. I'm irrationally against Flores. I just can't do any more BB assistants. I don’t think the Giants will either. It’s not irrational. Bill’s tree is a withered mess.
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 12, 2022 9:40:38 GMT -5
After reading up on Flores, it sounds like he is another hard ass, know-it-all type. We just went through that with Judge. I think what this team needs is a offensive mined players coach. I am going retract my statement on wanting flores. Doug P is a players coach, but thats literally his only redeeming quality so No. Wasn't Doug Pederson's end due to the whole tanking thing?
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 12, 2022 9:41:49 GMT -5
I like Flores, but I really want us to move away from anyone with ties to the Giants or Bill Belichick. We need to forge our own new identity. Completely agree. It has been proven over-and-over that the coaching/front office success of the Pats is 99,9% due to Belichick.
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 12, 2022 9:42:59 GMT -5
No Flores or Bowles. I'm irrationally against Flores. I just can't do any more BB assistants. I don’t think the Giants will either. It’s not irrational. Bill’s tree is a withered mess. Max and J Will were talking about the "trees" this morning and asking the question of why so many from the Carroll, BB and Reid tree have failed? I think at least two of the coaches that just got fired came from the Pete Carroll tree. Surprisingly the Sean McVay tree(yes, he has a tree already) has been the most successful on their own.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 12, 2022 9:45:56 GMT -5
I don’t think the Giants will either. It’s not irrational. Bill’s tree is a withered mess. Max and J Will were talking about the "trees" this morning and asking the question of why so many from the Carroll, BB and Reid tree have failed? I think at least two of the coaches that just got fired came from the Pete Carroll tree. Surprisingly the Sean McVay tree(yes, he has a tree already) has been the most successful on their own. Age? Maybe the younger coach relates to younger players better.
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 12, 2022 9:51:55 GMT -5
Max and J Will were talking about the "trees" this morning and asking the question of why so many from the Carroll, BB and Reid tree have failed? I think at least two of the coaches that just got fired came from the Pete Carroll tree. Surprisingly the Sean McVay tree(yes, he has a tree already) has been the most successful on their own. Age? Maybe the younger coach relates to younger players better. What they were speculating was that maybe it looks like the strength is the source and maybe these positional coaches are doing less than what everyone thinks(or, the HC has more to do with the positions). Could be the younger coaches have their fingers more on the pulse. You are talking about BB, Reid and Carroll who are older and have a lot of experience and were around in the older, more traditional days and probably have their guarded secrets.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 12, 2022 11:16:56 GMT -5
I like Flores, but I really want us to move away from anyone with ties to the Giants or Bill Belichick. We need to forge our own new identity. Completely agree. It has been proven over-and-over that the coaching/front office success of the Pats is 99,9% due to Belichick. Honestly if we get the coach and QB right 90% percent of our problems are fixed. Unfortunately we have not come close to evaluating nor facilitating these roles correctly.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jan 12, 2022 12:10:56 GMT -5
None of the above. Bowles still gives Jet fans violent diarrhea when his name is brought up. And Eric Bieniemy can’t buy an head coaching job. He’s either the worst interviewee, or Andy Reid is the mastermind of that offense. I do like Byron Leftwich though, and giving the right surroundings he could be a good coach. What makes people so impressed with Leftwich? Arians runs the show in TB, followed by Brady. He could be really good, but I'd like hear a case outside of him being the OC for Tampa.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jan 12, 2022 12:15:24 GMT -5
Why hire the sous-chef, when the head chef is the one who does all the cooking? The sous-chef hopefully added to the meal to help the head chef. And I'm sure learned from him. We can't get the head chef. And believe me no matter what Bieniemy comes up with it has to be better than this mess of a total incompetent offense. But there are so many people that could improve this offense I'm willing to wait a bit. Hard to trust a guy to run your franchise, when his current boss doesn't trust him enough to let him run his side of the ball.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 12, 2022 12:26:30 GMT -5
None of the above. Bowles still gives Jet fans violent diarrhea when his name is brought up. And Eric Bieniemy can’t buy an head coaching job. He’s either the worst interviewee, or Andy Reid is the mastermind of that offense. I do like Byron Leftwich though, and giving the right surroundings he could be a good coach. What makes people so impressed with Leftwich? Arians runs the show in TB, followed by Brady. He could be really good, but I'd like hear a case outside of him being the OC for Tampa. He's been calling the plays for a few years now, I think he's learned a lot from both Ariens and Brady. Who prepares better than TB12? I think that experience will really help him teach a young team. He's always displayed excellent leadership, going back to his college days.
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Post by Modog on Jan 12, 2022 13:23:03 GMT -5
After reading up on Flores, it sounds like he is another hard ass, know-it-all type. We just went through that with Judge. I think what this team needs is a offensive mined players coach. I am going retract my statement on wanting flores. Doug P is a players coach, but thats literally his only redeeming quality so No. Wasn't Doug Pederson's end due to the whole tanking thing? Nah the fans here had enough. He got exposed as soon as Reich and Diflipo left. I wouldn't be suprised if Howie Roseman asked him to tank that final game.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jan 12, 2022 13:28:41 GMT -5
What makes people so impressed with Leftwich? Arians runs the show in TB, followed by Brady. He could be really good, but I'd like hear a case outside of him being the OC for Tampa. He's been calling the plays for a few years now, I think he's learned a lot from both Ariens and Brady. Who prepares better than TB12? I think that experience will really help him teach a young team. He's always displayed excellent leadership, going back to his college days. Hopefully you're right. I just worry that he's more of an add on piece in the Arians/Tom Brady show much like we've commonly seen with other coaches that made their bank on being TB12s' OC.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 12, 2022 13:48:15 GMT -5
None of the above. Bowles still gives Jet fans violent diarrhea when his name is brought up. And Eric Bieniemy can’t buy an head coaching job. He’s either the worst interviewee, or Andy Reid is the mastermind of that offense. I do like Byron Leftwich though, and giving the right surroundings he could be a good coach. What makes people so impressed with Leftwich? Arians runs the show in TB, followed by Brady. He could be really good, but I'd like hear a case outside of him being the OC for Tampa. I’m certainly not impressed with him, that’s a strong word. However, when Bruce Arians raves about you and says I don’t take the Tampa job if Leftwich isn’t available, carries weight. Granted, it helps coaching Tom Brady. But, he has certainly earned the right to throw his hat in the ring.
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