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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 27, 2022 18:39:13 GMT -5
Daboll announced the following players will not be suiting up for Sunday's preseason finale:
WR Sterling Shepard, WR C.J. Board, OL Shane Lemieux, OL Josh Ezeudu, OL Ben Bredeson, OL Garrett McGhin, OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux, OLB Azeez Ojulari, OLB Elerson Smith, CB Rodarius Williams, S Dane Belton and K Graham Gano. Additionally, WR Kadarius Toney, WR Darius Slayton and OLB Jihad Ward are all questionable for the game.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 27, 2022 18:40:29 GMT -5
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Post by miggs on Aug 27, 2022 19:07:03 GMT -5
In final pre-season game, I like for starters to play a series or two. But starting offense is in sync and team needs to avoid injuries. Except for evaluating players on the bubble, the game is meaningless.
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Post by vinnie on Aug 27, 2022 20:01:11 GMT -5
In final pre-season game, I like for starters to play a series or two. But starting offense is in sync and team needs to avoid injuries. Except for evaluating players on the bubble, the game is meaningless. So when they start getting their asses kicked in the regular season and everything you’ve been preaching is wrong, what’s your new shtick gonna be? I mean you’ve already said the coaches can out scheme every team and no one can keep up with our offense so you won’t have any excuses left other than admit you were full of shit and just trolling. I’m looking forward to seeing you disappear and go back to your alter ego.
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Post by miggs on Aug 27, 2022 20:26:41 GMT -5
Roster isn't complete. Still some holes on defensive side of the ball. There are other unknowns as well.
Also said barring significant injuries, Giants should win 12 plus games. Did not say Giants would go undefeated. One game won't define the season. Sounds like you're rooting for the Giants to lose to the the Titans. Sad.
If the Giants stay healthy and don't win 12 plus games, I'll probably say negative so-called fans like yourself put the hex on the team and likely brought the Giants bad Karma.
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 27, 2022 20:35:56 GMT -5
Roster isn't complete. Still some holes on defensive side of the ball. There are other unknowns as well. Also said barring significant injuries, Giants should win 12 plus games. Did not say Giants would go undefeated. One game won't define the season. Sounds like you're rooting for the Giants to lose to the the Titans. Sad. If the Giants stay healthy and don't win 12 plus games, I'll probably say negative so-called fans like yourself put the hex on the team and likely brought the Giants bad Karma. Who let you in?
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Post by vinnie on Aug 27, 2022 21:45:58 GMT -5
Roster isn't complete. Still some holes on defensive side of the ball. There are other unknowns as well. Also said barring significant injuries, Giants should win 12 plus games. Did not say Giants would go undefeated. One game won't define the season. Sounds like you're rooting for the Giants to lose to the the Titans. Sad. If the Giants stay healthy and don't win 12 plus games, I'll probably say negative so-called fans like yourself put the hex on the team and likely brought the Giants bad Karma. You have been pumping up both sides of the ball with coaching and said the quality of players isn’t important, it’s the scheming. Of course you also said we will beat everyone with speed and no defense will be able to keep up with us so you contradicted yourself within a few posts. So spare me your “still holes on the defensive side of the ball”, according to you that doesn’t matter. You spew so much bullshit you can’t keep up with it yourself. Looks like you already have your built in excuse “if the Giants stay healthy”. You know that is 100% impossible, no team stays healthy and we’re already going to be missing starters for game 1. How convenient, the season hasn’t even started your excuse is already “valid”. Bravo, bravo! I will bet you $500 that if Jones plays all 17 games and doesn’t throw more than 2 INT’s the entire season then we will win the Super Bowl. How’s that for positivity and being realistic?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 2:44:21 GMT -5
In final pre-season game, I like for starters to play a series or two. But starting offense is in sync and team needs to avoid injuries. Except for evaluating players on the bubble, the game is meaningless. I trust Schoen and Daboll's judgment as to who to keep as they know what they need, and they also know more about the players than we do.
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Post by mendy on Aug 28, 2022 6:53:30 GMT -5
Roster isn't complete. Still some holes on defensive side of the ball. There are other unknowns as well. Also said barring significant injuries, Giants should win 12 plus games. Did not say Giants would go undefeated. One game won't define the season. Sounds like you're rooting for the Giants to lose to the the Titans. Sad. If the Giants stay healthy and don't win 12 plus games, I'll probably say negative so-called fans like yourself put the hex on the team and likely brought the Giants bad Karma. No one is more optimistic then I am about this team and Coaches but this, no, not happening.
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Post by miggs on Aug 28, 2022 6:57:15 GMT -5
I believe the Giants offensive and defensive schemes are better than their opponents, and that the Giants have the players who can execute those schemes.
Only said that schemes are most important, and did not say that quality of players is not important. By saying the Giants offense is better than it's opponents, I did not say the Giants offense will win all it's games. I only said that I project the Giants would have 12 plus wins.
Of course how well the Giants defense plays will determine the outcomes of games as well.
I do see the Giants schemes on both sides of the ball and the exceptional play of it's players over the course of the season resulting in less Giant turnovers via interceptions and fumbles that their opponents. There will be individual games when the reverse is likely.
]Of course, if certain key impact players get injured and are out for the season that will effect the Giants win-loss record. Even though a few out for the season, I'm not presently changing my present prediction of the the Giants winning 12 plus games.
On the other hand, I see Schoen strengthening the depth of the roster even more over the next week. All things considered, the Giants future looks very bring this up-coming season.
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Post by vinnie on Aug 28, 2022 8:14:36 GMT -5
I’d say the Giants future this season is brighter, about like going from a full eclipse to a partial eclipse.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 8:20:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the comedy..
12 wins has happened only a few times in this teams history but it's a lock after 5 years of double digit losses.. What happened to Miller and Beavers injuries costing the team a couple of wins?? I guess the total was 14 before those happened..
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Post by Rangers13 on Aug 28, 2022 8:25:56 GMT -5
Also said barring significant injuries, Giants should win 12 plus games. Quantrell Bishop playing today?
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Post by miggs on Aug 28, 2022 8:35:40 GMT -5
Miller's and Beaver being out for the season will hurt the Giants, but not necessarily cost them wins. Haven't seen anything yet that indicates that the Giants offense and defense will not be extremely good.
Have some concerns about the depth at cornerback. Will be watching that closely in today's game. Going against the Jets starters today is a good test. Realize that Giants have good defenders not playing today.
Giants roster will get even stronger and deeper this week.
It's not relevant how many games the Giants have one in the past.
Giants have an excellent coaching staff and players who can execute the offensive plays and defensive calls.
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Post by TEM on Aug 28, 2022 8:41:09 GMT -5
One set and sit the core.
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Post by TEM on Aug 28, 2022 8:45:27 GMT -5
Miller's and Beaver being out for the season will hurt the Giants, but not necessarily cost them wins. Haven't seen anything yet that indicates that the Giants offense and defense will not be extremely good. Have some concerns about the depth at cornerback. Will be watching that closely in today's game. Going against the Jets starters today is a good test. Realize that Giants have good defenders not playing today. Giants roster will get even stronger and deeper this week. It's not relevant how many games the Giants have one in the past. Giants have an excellent coaching staff and players who can execute the offensive plays and defensive calls. Beavers is a 6th round pick that had a handful of good snaps in the pre-season. A 6th round rookie ILB is not a game changer. Let's get this back to reality.
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Post by TEM on Aug 28, 2022 9:46:02 GMT -5
Just a tidbit of information.
We are 2-0 this preseason. And I know it is the preseason. Still, it is something for us to hang our hats on.
We have not won 2 games in a row since weeks 12 and 13 of the 2020 season. We broke a 24-game streak last week. That is including the 2021 preseason.
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Post by miggs on Aug 28, 2022 10:00:07 GMT -5
Drafting position means little to how good a player will be. As Tom Brady chosen in 6th round, and Joe Montana in third round pick. I watched Beavers videos in college in which he roamed sideline to sideline and brought down ball carriers, successfully rushed opponent QB's, and covered receivers. Very strong, quick, and bright player.
He played extremely well for the Giants In his limited time playing for the Giants. Do believe he would have soon been starting. He has in my view exceptional talent. We'll have to wait till next season to see how good he is.
For me it's not that Giants won their two pre-season games, it's how well the Giants systems worked in creating space for both runners and receivers alike, and how well the players executed the plays.,Seemed like a well-oiled machine that capable of inflicting major damage on opponents.
If I'm wrong so be it. Have no ego wrapped up in being right.
Just looking forward to the Giants playing really good football..
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Post by vinnie on Aug 28, 2022 10:42:15 GMT -5
Miller's and Beaver being out for the season will hurt the Giants, but not necessarily cost them wins. Haven't seen anything yet that indicates that the Giants offense and defense will not be extremely good. Have some concerns about the depth at cornerback. Will be watching that closely in today's game. Going against the Jets starters today is a good test. Realize that Giants have good defenders not playing today. Giants roster will get even stronger and deeper this week. It's not relevant how many games the Giants have one in the past. Giants have an excellent coaching staff and players who can execute the offensive plays and defensive calls. Yeah, good test to see which team will be picking higher in the top ten of the draft last year. They had the 7th worst offense last year and that was with Bechton. The Jets starting offense is probably about as good as the back ups we’ve been playing.
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Post by miggs on Aug 28, 2022 10:44:52 GMT -5
Vinnie: You really believe both Giants and Jets suck. We'll see for ourselves during the season.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 28, 2022 11:10:40 GMT -5
I'd like to see Bachman against real defenders playing man to man.
He looked great last week against soft zones. He does know how to sit down in space and scoot after the reception.
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 28, 2022 11:19:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 11:22:58 GMT -5
Miller's and Beaver being out for the season will hurt the Giants, but not necessarily cost them wins. Haven't seen anything yet that indicates that the Giants offense and defense will not be extremely good. Have some concerns about the depth at cornerback. Will be watching that closely in today's game. Going against the Jets starters today is a good test. Realize that Giants have good defenders not playing today. Giants roster will get even stronger and deeper this week. It's not relevant how many games the Giants have one in the past. Giants have an excellent coaching staff and players who can execute the offensive plays and defensive calls. Beavers is a 6th round pick that had a handful of good snaps in the pre-season. A 6th round rookie ILB is not a game changer. Let's get this get back to reality. I trust Schoen and Daboll's judgment as to who to keep as they know what they need, and they also know more about the players than we do.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 28, 2022 11:28:03 GMT -5
Miller's and Beaver being out for the season will hurt the Giants, but not necessarily cost them wins. Haven't seen anything yet that indicates that the Giants offense and defense will not be extremely good. Have some concerns about the depth at cornerback. Will be watching that closely in today's game. Going against the Jets starters today is a good test. Realize that Giants have good defenders not playing today. Giants roster will get even stronger and deeper this week. It's not relevant how many games the Giants have one in the past. Giants have an excellent coaching staff and players who can execute the offensive plays and defensive calls. Beavers is a 6th round pick that had a handful of good snaps in the pre-season. A 6th round rookie ILB is not a game changer. Let's get this get back to reality. You're wrong. Beavers is the next Jessie Armstead and will be sorely missed! 😄
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 28, 2022 11:29:19 GMT -5
are we going to have to deal with the Jets announcers on this broadcast, since it's their home game? Oy!!
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Post by idkaname on Aug 28, 2022 11:37:24 GMT -5
I’m SO hyped to watch McKinney ball out this year 😭
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Post by TEM on Aug 28, 2022 11:49:00 GMT -5
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 28, 2022 11:53:55 GMT -5
Lets go!
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 28, 2022 11:55:38 GMT -5
Webb is going to have a great game!
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 28, 2022 11:56:43 GMT -5
going to be a Jets feed!
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