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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Aug 30, 2022 9:17:36 GMT -5
Not to devalue the gravity of the situation but every one of those 750 people should have a solid plan B in place. If they didn’t, then their parents failed them horribly.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 30, 2022 9:20:51 GMT -5
I would be good with 1 or 2 preseason games more so with none. Allow teams 3 or 4 joint practices with a scrimmage that can be coached up on the spot. Thats good for the coaches and the players but the scrimmage Idea hurts the leagues bottom line. Us season ticket holders are saddled with the preseason tickets that are basically worthless to everyone but the owners they get their money wether there is an ass in the seat or not. I never understood the cry about season tickets and preseason games (although I dont have them). Season Tickets are paying for the 8 regular season home games. Thats how I see it. Adding in preseason games are throw ins. Split the cost by 8 to get your per game value. Then just raise the price of the regular season tickets and tell the fans the preseason is free. Preseason games are almost full price the NFL and franchise are still making money on concessions and merchandise during the game. With 3 it doesn't suck as much some years you only get 1 if they drop it to 1 then some years we will have none thats even better.
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 9:21:00 GMT -5
apparently no body wants Slayton or he'd be gone by now...
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Post by TEM on Aug 30, 2022 9:21:37 GMT -5
Not to devalue the gravity of the situation but every one of those 750 people should have a solid plan B in place. If they didn’t, then their parents failed them horribly. They may not . Their entire life they are groomed to be an athlete.
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Post by miggs on Aug 30, 2022 9:22:33 GMT -5
Gilbert cut.
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Post by robl on Aug 30, 2022 9:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 9:25:51 GMT -5
What these cuts are telling me is preseason is completely meaningless. Just stop playing these games and add another regular season game already. Then we can avoid the wrath of injuries that come with them. I have always wondered if the benefit of these preseason games is worth getting starters injured, the coaches know more than I do about it but these injuries can ruin a whole season....
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Post by GameTime on Aug 30, 2022 9:27:38 GMT -5
What these cuts are telling me is preseason is completely meaningless. Just stop playing these games and add another regular season game already. Then we can avoid the wrath of injuries that come with them. nah...the coaches see these guys in camp as well as games. Also preseason is the players audition for the league. Preseason is not meaningless at all.
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Post by TEM on Aug 30, 2022 9:27:51 GMT -5
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 30, 2022 9:29:29 GMT -5
I'm surprised but I get it Roche I don't think fit Winks system as good as X. Not sure X fits any system. Who he gon give it to? This might not just relate to X there is Smith who is young still around and it seems they feel that Ojulari and Thibs will be healthy and X or Smith will be good also. Also they have Cam Brown who is close to a prowl level teams guy and Carter Coughlin who is a very good teamer also who can help on the edge, there is more to the cuts than meets the eye.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 30, 2022 9:29:55 GMT -5
What these cuts are telling me is preseason is completely meaningless. Just stop playing these games and add another regular season game already. Then we can avoid the wrath of injuries that come with them. nah...the coaches see these guys in camp as well as games. Also preseason is the players audition for the league. Preseason is not meaningless at all. It’s how bubble players get jobs.. Hard to give an ever so important roster spot based off individual drills and practices. You have to see these guys when the bullets are flying. And we saw how the league looks with no preseason. It was scab football for a month.
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 9:34:45 GMT -5
I like Webb a lot much better QB then he was when we drafted him second Giants GM that let him go that kind of sucks. Webb is most likely headed for a coaching job somewhere, maybe even with the Giants....
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 30, 2022 9:36:31 GMT -5
Fox has stuck so far if he happens to make it through it will be at the cost of Q Roche, surprised Dorsey is still here.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 30, 2022 9:37:58 GMT -5
I like Webb a lot much better QB then he was when we drafted him second Giants GM that let him go that kind of sucks. Webb is most likely headed for a coaching job somewhere, maybe even with the Giants.... He said his Goal is to be #2 at some point before he hangs them up so if that opportunity presents it's self doubt coaching will be in his near future.
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 30, 2022 9:44:05 GMT -5
What these cuts are telling me is preseason is completely meaningless. Just stop playing these games and add another regular season game already. Then we can avoid the wrath of injuries that come with them. 100%
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Post by TEM on Aug 30, 2022 9:49:00 GMT -5
nah...the coaches see these guys in camp as well as games. Also preseason is the players audition for the league. Preseason is not meaningless at all. It’s how bubble players get jobs.. Hard to give an ever so important roster spot based off individual drills and practices. You have to see these guys when the bullets are flying. And we saw how the league looks with no preseason. It was scab football for a month. There was 1 RB spot. Neve once thought Gary Brightwell was not making the team. 2 TE spots. No Edge spots. No Safety spots. 2 WR spots. 1 Corner spot. Back up DL and OL . I think that was It.
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Post by miggs on Aug 30, 2022 9:49:38 GMT -5
Would like to see Final 53-man roster have 7-new players cut or traded by other teams to the Giants. Should include: 2 new CBs, 1 WR, 1 OL,1 RB, 1 S, and 1 LB.
Crossing my fingers that Webb not picked up by another team.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 30, 2022 9:49:44 GMT -5
apparently no body wants Slayton or he'd be gone by now... This might be some cat and mouse like with Bradberry teams seeing if the Giants will cut him, if not if they want him they will have to trade for him.
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Post by jaymas on Aug 30, 2022 9:52:19 GMT -5
They probably just don't want to carry 3 QBs and he wasn't beating out Taylor for the backup spot. Me? Well with Daniel Jones injury history and Tyrod Taylor's I would have kept 3 QBs especially one that played as well as Webb did in the preseason. He'll probably make it back to our practice squad. Coaching isn't happening yet, as he came here to continue his career as a player vs. staying in Buffalo as a coach.
Roche was buried on the depth chart all summer long, that doesn't seem wild to me.
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Post by McCherry on Aug 30, 2022 9:53:45 GMT -5
Wow, Roche cut and X stays? Uh, what? Roche wasn't good this summer. Ximines has been playing some of the best ball of his career.
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Post by jaymas on Aug 30, 2022 9:53:51 GMT -5
Bachman was unfortunately just one part of a log jam. You can't keep him over Sills because Sills was performing against better competition.
Shep Toney Golladay Robinson James
All those guys were locks. Sills was the next most obvious...so one spot for a lot of guys. It's tough. Bachman played well...also could make it to PS.
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Post by jmike on Aug 30, 2022 10:03:44 GMT -5
Complete update as I know so far.
62 still currently on the roster
QB-2 Jones and Taylor
Webb Cut
RB-5 Barkley, Brieda, Williams, Brightwell, Platzgummer
Corbin cut; I expect Sandro to be cut soon.
WR-7 Golladay, Shepard, Slayton, Toney, Robinson, Sills, James
Expect Slayton to be cut or traded soon
Board, Bacjman, Doss, Toivonen, Moore cut. Collin Johnson and Marcus Kemp on IR
TE-4 Bellinger, Myarick, Allen, Hudson
Akins cut Seals-Jones and Miller on IR
OL-11 Thomas, Neal, Hamilton, Mbaeteka, Holden, Glowinski, Lemieux, Garcia, Bredeson, Ezeudu, Feliciano
McGhin, Smith, Rivas, Douglas Cut McKethan on IR Gates and Peart on PUP
DL-6 Williams, Lawrence, Holmes, Nik Williams, Ellis and Davidson
Moa and Anderson Cut
LB-12 Thibodeaux, Ojulari, Ward, Smith, Ximines, Fox, Martinez, Crowder, Coughlin, Brown, McFadden, Calitro
Roche Cut Beavers on IR
CB-7 Jackson, Holmes, Robinson, Williams, Flott, Dorsey, Hand
Gilbert, Evans, Griffin cut
S-5 McKinney, Love, Belton, Thompson, Meadors
Corker, Adams Cut
SP-3 Gano, Gillan, Krieter
Santoso Cut
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Post by GameTime on Aug 30, 2022 10:05:21 GMT -5
Some puzzling cuts so far. I guess giving effort and actually producing doesn't mean much to this regime. maybe its system fit and what they see in practice/camp.
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Post by miggs on Aug 30, 2022 10:07:07 GMT -5
Would be pleased if only the only CBs from training camp who make the final roster are:Jackson, Holmes, Flott, and Robinson.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 30, 2022 10:07:18 GMT -5
Webb was cut, a big mistake!
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Post by jmike on Aug 30, 2022 10:10:27 GMT -5
Updated.....Allen was Cut
Complete update as I know so far.
61 still currently on the roster
QB-2 Jones and Taylor
Webb Cut
RB-5 Barkley, Brieda, Williams, Brightwell, Platzgummer
Corbin cut; I expect Sandro to be cut soon.
WR-7 Golladay, Shepard, Slayton, Toney, Robinson, Sills, James
Expect Slayton to be cut or traded soon
Board, Bachman, Doss, Toivonen, Moore cut. Collin Johnson and Marcus Kemp on IR
TE-3 Bellinger, Myarick, Hudson
Akins, Allen cut Seals-Jones and Miller on IR
OL-11 Thomas, Neal, Hamilton, Mbaeteka, Holden, Glowinski, Lemieux, Garcia, Bredeson, Ezeudu, Feliciano
McGhin, Smith, Rivas, Douglas Cut McKethan on IR Gates and Peart on PUP
DL-6 Williams, Lawrence, Holmes, Nik Williams, Ellis and Davidson
Moa and Anderson Cut
LB-12 Thibodeaux, Ojulari, Ward, Smith, Ximines, Fox, Martinez, Crowder, Coughlin, Brown, McFadden, Calitro
Roche Cut Beavers on IR
CB-7 Jackson, Holmes, Robinson, Williams, Flott, Dorsey, Hand
Gilbert, Evans, Griffin cut
S-5 McKinney, Love, Belton, Thompson, Meadors
Corker, Adams Cut
SP-3 Gano, Gillan, Krieter
Santoso Cut
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 30, 2022 10:12:14 GMT -5
Webb was cut, a big mistake! I agree.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 30, 2022 10:13:32 GMT -5
What these cuts are telling me is preseason is completely meaningless. Just stop playing these games and add another regular season game already. Then we can avoid the wrath of injuries that come with them. nah...the coaches see these guys in camp as well as games. Also preseason is the players audition for the league. Preseason is not meaningless at all. Hard to convince me of that when we see Bachman and Webb performing how they were out there. That said, you are correct in saying the coaches see them in camp and practice as well, when we dont. Bachman just felt like he fit. Same with Webb and Corbin.
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Post by 3days on Aug 30, 2022 10:14:59 GMT -5
What these cuts are telling me is preseason is completely meaningless. Just stop playing these games and add another regular season game already. Then we can avoid the wrath of injuries that come with them. Was thinking the same, seems practice and camp drives this
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 30, 2022 10:17:17 GMT -5
Calitro better not get cut. All Im saying.
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