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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 20, 2022 9:30:08 GMT -5
That’s classic right there. But as usual, unfortunately he’s right, can’t argue with a thing he’s said. We’ve won 4 times since 2013 and one of those was a gimme when they rested their starters. Cooper Rush played pretty good against Cincy but almost threw 5 INT’s that would have cost them the game. If we want to beat them, not having their starting QB may be our best chance this year (although Dak looked like ass in his first game). *obvious Thibs, Azeez and Leo would be huge but that’s not happening this game
It's the worrying that I love so much. That sinking feeling we all get on a Monday after going 2-0 when we picture ourselves cast one week into the future getting absolutely humiliated on national TV with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman relishing every moment of it.
The agony that is  always makes me smile.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 20, 2022 9:32:10 GMT -5
two backs blocking....that means the D is already in the backfield, add in the 5 OL and the QB and that leave 3 guys out to receive a pass. Unless Jones runs out of that aliment. They wont be scoring many points with that line up if its used too often. The play calling and player execution have to be better for across the board and And? And? And......? Don't die on me, not just yet!  I am hanging in there Bro!!!! |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 20, 2022 9:33:30 GMT -5
two backs blocking....that means the D is already in the backfield, add in the 5 OL and the QB and that leave 3 guys out to receive a pass. Unless Jones runs out of that aliment. They wont be scoring many points with that line up if its used too often. The play calling and player execution have to be better for across the board and Barkley is allergic to blocking so does Daboll set him like he did with Golladay..  Just saying.. def one thing that surprised me with him. Never under stood why he couldn't at least be pretty good at that. I mean RBs live with contact all the time |
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 20, 2022 9:34:51 GMT -5
Its a big one. Lets see how tonights game (Tenn) goes but I suspect we will be going against the 3rd top ten defensive ranked team we have faced in the Cowboys in as many games. Not too shabby picking up 2 wins already. Make no mistake, the Cowboys still have a stingy defense. Its early, but I think our team is going to come out swinging in this one. Lets all hope for the best. TEN looked like trash vs Bills... and Vikes looked almost as bad vs Eagles. If the Cowboys shut down our run game to make our QB beat them, as they surely plan to, DJ will join the two mediocrities that took snaps last night. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't bet on it. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 20, 2022 9:40:40 GMT -5
This game is all about the Giants Oline. Basically yes. Our D could get roasted but the real goal here is can we prevent their D line from taking over the game? We only have two regular season examples of our o line play. If it’s the Carolina version, we’ll be 2-1. Daboll places pressure on the O-line to defend as he refuses the have 2-backs in the backfield that would provide Jones with a second level of protection. In fact, at time has an empty backfield. Playing empty or 1 backs are a prescription for disaster that manifests itself in sucks and interceptions. Posters are missing the boat by complaining about the Giants weak pass protectors on the O-line. It's the primary reason the offense is not scoring more points, and why the Giants have scored less points thru two games than they did last season. The Giants only scored 20-points in their first game playing Dallas last season. Let's see how many points the Giants score on Monday night. Giants could beat Dallas if Daboll would change his philosophy and provided Jones with some additional protection. He also needs to try some new offensive lineman who can pass protect. Bill Walsh often used two backs and was able to win many Supers Bowls doing so. Believe the Giants did as well. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 20, 2022 9:44:45 GMT -5
See how Daboll and company handle the prime time.
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Post by miggs on Sept 20, 2022 9:50:38 GMT -5
See how Daboll and company handle the prime time. Has nothing to do with prime time. It's Daboll recognizing why the offense is not working and his correcting it. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 20, 2022 9:53:50 GMT -5
See how Daboll and company handle the prime time. Has nothing to do with prime time. It's Daboll recognizing why the offense is not working and his correcting it. just making the point that NYGs have sucking prime time reg season games for a long time. Through dif HCs, GMs etc. Daboll knows his football. I am not worried about that. He and his staff are figuring out what will work and what wont. Who is progressing with their game and who isnt. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 20, 2022 10:02:08 GMT -5
Has nothing to do with prime time. It's Daboll recognizing why the offense is not working and his correcting it. just making the point that NYGs have sucking prime time reg season games for a long time. Through dif HCs, GMs etc. Daboll knows his football. I am not worried about that. He and his staff are figuring out what will work and what wont. Who is progressing with their game and who isnt. Giants fans should past the Giants sucking in the past. Daboll hasn't figured out the Giants lack of scoring in the first half nor in any of his interviews does he give any indication that the coaching staff has been doing anything wrong. He implies it's just the players that need to learn his offensive system better. As I pointed out in a previous post that's not the problem. The Giants don't have the quality of interior lineman that Buffalo and KC had. So adjustments have to be made. Daboll's adjustment is throwing 1-yard passes. As we've seen that doesn't cut it. |
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 20, 2022 10:10:58 GMT -5
See how Daboll and company handle the prime time. Has nothing to do with prime time. It's Daboll recognizing why the offense is not working and his correcting it. Really? So all we gotta do is trans-substantiate ~3 o-lineman and we're good? Or put a couple of RBs or FBs in the backfield and maybe a TE on the line for good measure and hope they block the rush? Well slap my face... whocuddanode? But hey, it may be worth a shot  |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 20, 2022 10:13:10 GMT -5
See how Daboll and company handle the prime time. Has nothing to do with prime time. It's Daboll recognizing why the offense is not working and his correcting it. It's an interesting suggestion but I don't think it's time to start Tyrod yet. But your point is well taken. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 20, 2022 10:57:47 GMT -5
But as usual, unfortunately he’s right, can’t argue with a thing he’s said. We’ve won 4 times since 2013 and one of those was a gimme when they rested their starters. Cooper Rush played pretty good against Cincy but almost threw 5 INT’s that would have cost them the game. If we want to beat them, not having their starting QB may be our best chance this year (although Dak looked like ass in his first game). *obvious Thibs, Azeez and Leo would be huge but that’s not happening this game
It's the worrying that I love so much. That sinking feeling we all get on a Monday after going 2-0 when we picture ourselves cast one week into the future getting absolutely humiliated on national TV with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman relishing every moment of it.
The agony that is always makes me smile.
I believe that there will be a Manning broadcast next week, so at least we can listen to our own homer. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 11:03:38 GMT -5
Time to break the "night game" losing mode.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 20, 2022 11:04:29 GMT -5
It's the worrying that I love so much. That sinking feeling we all get on a Monday after going 2-0 when we picture ourselves cast one week into the future getting absolutely humiliated on national TV with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman relishing every moment of it.
The agony that is always makes me smile.
I believe that there will be a Manning broadcast next week, so at least we can listen to our own homer.
That's great news. I'd much rather listen to them than anyone else.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2022 11:24:53 GMT -5
Has nothing to do with prime time. It's Daboll recognizing why the offense is not working and his correcting it. Really? So all we gotta do is trans-substantiate ~3 o-lineman and we're good? Or put a couple of RBs or FBs in the backfield and maybe a TE on the line for good measure and hope they block the rush? Well slap my face... whocuddanode? But hey, it may be worth a shot Can’t believe some of you are still entertaining this hack. Just a few weeks ago he was gloating how many games we would win because our players were faster and superior athletes compared to every other team and as expected he’s crawfishing two weeks into the season and already making excuses. I blocked him but every now and then I look to see what kind of ridiculousness you guys are responding to and I’m never disappointed. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2022 11:27:21 GMT -5
Prime time or not, the Giants have straight up sucked for a decade no matter what time of day it is, I think it’s irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 11:31:08 GMT -5
Really? So all we gotta do is trans-substantiate ~3 o-lineman and we're good? Or put a couple of RBs or FBs in the backfield and maybe a TE on the line for good measure and hope they block the rush? Well slap my face... whocuddanode? But hey, it may be worth a shot Can’t believe some of you are still entertaining this hack. Just a few weeks ago he was gloating how many games we would win because our players were faster and superior athletes compared to every other team and as expected he’s crawfishing two weeks into the season and already making excuses. I blocked him but every now and then I look to see what kind of ridiculousness you guys are responding to and I’m never disappointed. Come on and enjoy the ridiculousness and back tracking of the legend known as miggs.. The entertainment value is strong with this bipolar fan!! His latest gem is telling everyone to stop living in the past as he continues to bring up the past glory of the 49ers for comparisons of his opinions.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 11:31:25 GMT -5
Prime time or not, the Giants have straight up sucked for a decade no matter what time of day it is, I think it’s irrelevant. Facts.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 11:32:40 GMT -5
Prime time or not, the Giants have straight up sucked for a decade no matter what time of day it is, I think it’s irrelevant. Very true vinnie, but to me they just like to put that extra layer of suckage on the night games. yeah, a loss is a loss, but can we please get this one monkey off our backs. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 11:43:51 GMT -5
Prime time or not, the Giants have straight up sucked for a decade no matter what time of day it is, I think it’s irrelevant. Very true vinnie, but to me they just like to put that extra layer of suckage on the night games. yeah, a loss is a loss, but can we please get this one monkey off our backs. You must have stopped watching last year once Jones went down. That was by far the greatest suckage in NFL history.. TB was even better when they entered the league.. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2022 12:01:18 GMT -5
Can’t believe some of you are still entertaining this hack. Just a few weeks ago he was gloating how many games we would win because our players were faster and superior athletes compared to every other team and as expected he’s crawfishing two weeks into the season and already making excuses. I blocked him but every now and then I look to see what kind of ridiculousness you guys are responding to and I’m never disappointed. Come on and enjoy the ridiculousness and back tracking of the legend known as miggs.. The entertainment value is strong with this bipolar fan!! His latest gem is telling everyone to stop living in the past as he continues to bring up the past glory of the 49ers for comparisons of his opinions.. I mean his shit is just so absurd I feel more stupid after having read it. It’s incomprehensible. Maybe I need to kick it old skool and take a few hit of acid so I’m on his delusional level. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 20, 2022 12:13:27 GMT -5
just making the point that NYGs have sucking prime time reg season games for a long time. Through dif HCs, GMs etc. Daboll knows his football. I am not worried about that. He and his staff are figuring out what will work and what wont. Who is progressing with their game and who isnt. Giants fans should past the Giants sucking in the past. Daboll hasn't figured out the Giants lack of scoring in the first half nor in any of his interviews does he give any indication that the coaching staff has been doing anything wrong. He implies it's just the players that need to learn his offensive system better. As I pointed out in a previous post that's not the problem. The Giants don't have the quality of interior lineman that Buffalo and KC had. So adjustments have to be made. Daboll's adjustment is throwing 1-yard passes. As we've seen that doesn't cut it. - They have sucked and we will not get past it until they have a season where they dont suck. This season is starting off better. - You dont listen to the pressers at all. Daboll is ALWAYS saying its process and WE ALL HAVE TO DO BETTER. He includes his staff and him self all the time. In every presser I have listen to and I listen to all of them. - What you point out is an armchair view of what you think the issue is. Like the rest if us. Sometimes you may be right and most times we are not. - Daboll has said time and again its learning process for he and the coaches to figure out what is going to work best for the team with a given opponent. He also admitted he wont always get right. Pass routes are short for a reason. Have you also noticed the big open recovers' plays Jones is missing because he is even looking? Thats not on Daboll, the OL or anyone else. -They have made adjustments in the two games which helped them win. Maybe you missed that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 12:31:37 GMT -5
Come on and enjoy the ridiculousness and back tracking of the legend known as miggs.. The entertainment value is strong with this bipolar fan!! His latest gem is telling everyone to stop living in the past as he continues to bring up the past glory of the 49ers for comparisons of his opinions.. I mean his shit is just so absurd I feel more stupid after having read it. It’s incomprehensible. Maybe I need to kick it old skool and take a few hit of acid so I’m on his delusional level. Weed does enhance the pleasure of reading the responses of the legend.. Wait someone told me that!! |
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Post by miggs on Sept 20, 2022 12:38:05 GMT -5
No back-tracking. I said that the Giants have quick receivers and they get open. That's very true.But they can't catch the ball on crossing routes across the field as the defensive lineman is in the backfield when they finally get open. To late to throw the ball. Surprised that both Vinnie and Realtension22 don't see that. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
I thought the Giants would do well this season because of Daboll's preparation and offensive schemes. But Daboll's lack of providing more pass protection for Jones when such is clearly obvious is concerning.
Plays that call for one yard passes and not attacking the end zone in the first half is also not good.
Not always clear what Jones is told to look for as being his first read. If told the wrong thing, and that's combined with a strong pass rush, than his options are limited. But viewing the replay, we see a guy open, a player that it's too late for him to see.
Jones completing 70.9 percent of of all his passes (3rd highest completion rate in the NFL) while not getting good protection tells me he's not the problem. The main problem is getting more players in front of him so he has more time to throw the ball.
But some less insightful fans here would rather just harp on Jones and other players as not being good.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2022 12:39:07 GMT -5
I mean his shit is just so absurd I feel more stupid after having read it. It’s incomprehensible. Maybe I need to kick it old skool and take a few hit of acid so I’m on his delusional level. Weed does enhance the pleasure of reading the responses of the legend.. Wait someone told me that!! I can’t wait to retire. I used to be a very productive everyday weed smoker during college but I won’t risk my current job for it. Unfortunately I had to stop 20 years ago and more alcohol has taken it’s place, so f’in dumb. Somewhere between 10-15 more years and that’s the first thing I’m doing. I’m going to have to find someone to teach me how to vape, lol. All I now are joints, bong hits and pipes…not that anything is wrong with that…except maybe the bong hits, tjose could be rough, lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 12:41:12 GMT -5
No back-tracking. I said that the Giants have quick receivers and they get open. That's very true.But they can't catch the ball on crossing routes across the field as the defensive lineman is in the backfield when they finally get open. To late to throw the ball. Surprised that both Vinnie and Realtension22 don't see that. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I thought the Giants would do well this this because of Daboll's preparation and offensive schemes. But Daboll's lack of providing more pass protection for Jones when such is clearly obvious is concerning. Plays that call for one yard passes and not attacking the end zone in the first half was also not good. Not always clear what Jones is told should be his first read. If told the wrong thing, and that's combined with a pass rush, than his options are limited. But viewing the replay, we see a guy open. With Jones completing 70 percent of his passes while not getting good protection tells me he's not the problem. The main problem is getting more players in front of him so he has more time to throw the ball. But some less insightful fans here would rather just harp on Jones and other players as not being good. Vinnie, The legend is attacking us for telling the truth.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 12:42:47 GMT -5
Weed does enhance the pleasure of reading the responses of the legend.. Wait someone told me that!! I can’t wait to retire. I used to be a very productive everyday weed smoker during college but I won’t risk my current job for it. Unfortunately I had to stop 20 years ago and more alcohol has taken it’s place, so f’in dumb. Somewhere between 10-15 more years and that’s the first thing I’m doing. I’m going to have to find someone to teach me how to vape, lol. All I now are joints, bong hits and pipes…not that anything is wrong with that…except maybe the bong hits, tjose could be rough, lol. I've partied some with the owners at my work.. My wife can't being a school bus driver which works out for me.. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2022 12:52:44 GMT -5
I can’t wait to retire. I used to be a very productive everyday weed smoker during college but I won’t risk my current job for it. Unfortunately I had to stop 20 years ago and more alcohol has taken it’s place, so f’in dumb. Somewhere between 10-15 more years and that’s the first thing I’m doing. I’m going to have to find someone to teach me how to vape, lol. All I now are joints, bong hits and pipes…not that anything is wrong with that…except maybe the bong hits, tjose could be rough, lol. I've partied some with the owners at my work.. My wife can't being a school bus driver which works out for me.. yeah, it really is amazing how many people use it that a lot of people would never expect, although it’s not nearly as “taboo” or secretive as it was when I last smoked. I’m sure there’s people I work with that use it and more power to them, but like your wife, it’s not worth me risking my job and retirement for. I used to hook up my wifes (gf at the time) bosses with weed when I was in college and they were in their 50’s. My dad was a white collar guy who smoked occasionally in the 60’s, I even had the pleasure of smoking with him once (that was a trip) but that was one of the only times he’s done it over the past 2 decades. Smoked with some of my friends parents who were lawyers, doctors, you name it. Almost had the chance to smoke with Willie Nelson, just missed it, that would have been awesome. Most of my friends still use edibles or smoke when we hang out, doesn’t bother me at all other than the jealousy factor. I would definitely drink less if I could still use, sucks man. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2022 12:56:16 GMT -5
No back-tracking. I said that the Giants have quick receivers and they get open. That's very true.But they can't catch the ball on crossing routes across the field as the defensive lineman is in the backfield when they finally get open. To late to throw the ball. Surprised that both Vinnie and Realtension22 don't see that. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I thought the Giants would do well this this because of Daboll's preparation and offensive schemes. But Daboll's lack of providing more pass protection for Jones when such is clearly obvious is concerning. Plays that call for one yard passes and not attacking the end zone in the first half was also not good. Not always clear what Jones is told should be his first read. If told the wrong thing, and that's combined with a pass rush, than his options are limited. But viewing the replay, we see a guy open. With Jones completing 70 percent of his passes while not getting good protection tells me he's not the problem. The main problem is getting more players in front of him so he has more time to throw the ball. But some less insightful fans here would rather just harp on Jones and other players as not being good. Vinnie, The legend is attacking us for telling the truth.. Lol, and this is why I blocked him, he has an excuse for everything. None of us like to be wrong and will defend our positions until it’s obvious we are wrong (DG supporters took 3-4 years but they finally conceded) but this guy never runs out and he never will. It will be one outrageous excuse or claim after another. You can have at him, I’m not wasting my time, it’s actually one of the more mature online decisions I’ve made this year, lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 12:56:27 GMT -5
I've partied some with the owners at my work.. My wife can't being a school bus driver which works out for me.. yeah, it really is amazing how many people use it that a lot of people would never expect, although it’s not nearly as “taboo” or secretive as it was when I last smoked. I’m sure there’s people I work with that use it and more power to them, but like your wife, it’s not worth me risking my job and retirement for. I used to hook up my wifes (gf at the time) bosses with weed when I was in college and they were in their 50’s. My dad was a white collar guy who smoked occasionally in the 60’s, I even had the pleasure of smoking with him once (that was a trip) but that was one of the only times he’s done it over the past 2 decades. Smoked with some of my friends parents who were lawyers, doctors, you name it. Almost had the chance to smoke with Willie Nelson, just missed it, that would have been awesome. Most of my friends still use edibles or smoke when we hang out, doesn’t bother me at all other than the jealousy factor. I would definitely drink less if I could still use, sucks man. Now it's legal in Jersey I'm more open about it. I've had some cool discussions with my son while passing the pipe these past few years.. I've smoked with plenty of HoF bowlers who you wouldn't think do it. One does it before bowling which even surprised me. |
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