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Post by cdngfan on Apr 2, 2024 6:15:02 GMT -5
I think giving up more picks to get a QB would be a mistake. This is a team that needs more picks, not less. Either stay where you are or move back to get additional picks. You will still end up with a QB. I'm ok giving up draft picks for proven talent, like bringing in Burns. Giving up draft picks to take a chance on the 3rd QB off the board just seems like a mistake, especially since there is a chance he falls to #6 anyway.
They think they can win with (a healthy) Jones. They brought in Lock as injury insurance. Let's see what falls to us at 6 and make a decision from there.
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 2, 2024 6:34:06 GMT -5
I'm ok giving up draft picks for proven talent, like bringing in Burns. Giving up draft picks to take a chance on the 3rd QB off the board just seems like a mistake, especially since there is a chance he falls to #6 anyway.
They think they can win with (a healthy) Jones. They brought in Lock as injury insurance. Let's see what falls to us at 6 and make a decision from there.
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. but will Shoen answer the phone...  |
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 2, 2024 6:37:42 GMT -5
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. but will Shoen answer the phone... . Dude, almost had coffee shoot out my nose on that. |
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Post by TEM on Apr 2, 2024 7:13:45 GMT -5
I'm ok giving up draft picks for proven talent, like bringing in Burns. Giving up draft picks to take a chance on the 3rd QB off the board just seems like a mistake, especially since there is a chance he falls to #6 anyway.
They think they can win with (a healthy) Jones. They brought in Lock as injury insurance. Let's see what falls to us at 6 and make a decision from there.
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. I looked at this looked at this. IMO if we do not stay in the top 10. I do not see a reason to drop down, We Need a WR. ILB, DB, OG . A WR will be there art 6. We are not moving down to take a corner in round 1 2 years in a row. There is no draftable ILB in the 1st round. We can still do this with taking a WR with 6 Safety Javon Bullard with 47 or Calen Bullock with 70 Sione Vaki with 107, Evan Williams 166 OG Graham Barton 47 or Christian Haynes with 70 , Zak Zinter with 107, Layden Robinson 166 ILB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with 70 or Cedric Gray with 107, Trevin Wallace 166, Tyrice Knight 183 TE Brevyn Spann-For, Jaheim Bell with 107, Erick All with 166.................. late 7rd left. QB Spencer Rattler with 107, Sam Hartman with 166 RB Frank Gore Jr. with 166, Blake Watson with 183 |
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 2, 2024 7:45:21 GMT -5
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. I looked at this looked at this. IMO if we do not stay in the top 10. I do not see a reason to drop down, We Need a WR. ILB, DB, OG . A WR will be there art 6. We are not moving down to take a corner in round 1 2 years in a row. There is no draftable ILB in the 1st round. We can still do this with taking a WR with 6 Safety Javon Bullard with 47 or Calen Bullock with 70 Sione Vaki with 107, Evan Williams 166 OG Graham Barton 47 or Christian Haynes with 70 , Zak Zinter with 107, Layden Robinson 166 ILB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with 70 or Cedric Gray with 107, Trevin Wallace 166, Tyrice Knight 183 TE Brevyn Spann-For, Jaheim Bell with 107, Erick All with 166.................. late 7rd left. QB Spencer Rattler with 107, Sam Hartman with 166 RB Frank Gore Jr. with 166, Blake Watson with 183 If its Nabers and Odu are left on the board and we’re grading them that high then we absolutely take a WR. Where this gets weird is if Maye or JJ are still available and we don’t love either, and someone like Oakland offers a 1st next year and another quality pick this year, I don’t know if you turn that down because you don’t like what will be on the board from 11-20. I agree the board doesn’t line up awesome with our needs in the middle but very few recent mocks have a QB available at 6. If that changes and we’re not interested, it’ll be hard to turn down a boatload of picks. It’s my original point. This gets weird if there’s a QB available at 6. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 2, 2024 8:09:03 GMT -5
I looked at this looked at this. IMO if we do not stay in the top 10. I do not see a reason to drop down, We Need a WR. ILB, DB, OG . A WR will be there art 6. We are not moving down to take a corner in round 1 2 years in a row. There is no draftable ILB in the 1st round. We can still do this with taking a WR with 6 Safety Javon Bullard with 47 or Calen Bullock with 70 Sione Vaki with 107, Evan Williams 166 OG Graham Barton 47 or Christian Haynes with 70 , Zak Zinter with 107, Layden Robinson 166 ILB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with 70 or Cedric Gray with 107, Trevin Wallace 166, Tyrice Knight 183 TE Brevyn Spann-For, Jaheim Bell with 107, Erick All with 166.................. late 7rd left. QB Spencer Rattler with 107, Sam Hartman with 166 RB Frank Gore Jr. with 166, Blake Watson with 183 If its Nabers and Odu are left on the board and we’re grading them that high then we absolutely take a WR. Where this gets weird is if Maye or JJ are still available and we don’t love either, and someone like Oakland offers a 1st next year and another quality pick this year, I don’t know if you turn that down because you don’t like what will be on the board from 11-20. I agree the board doesn’t line up awesome with our needs in the middle but very few recent mocks have a QB available at 6. If that changes and we’re not interested, it’ll be hard to turn down a boatload of picks. It’s my original point. This gets weird if there’s a QB available at 6. QB or trade back is still my take |
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Post by imgrate on Apr 2, 2024 8:20:52 GMT -5
If its Nabers and Odu are left on the board and we’re grading them that high then we absolutely take a WR. Where this gets weird is if Maye or JJ are still available and we don’t love either, and someone like Oakland offers a 1st next year and another quality pick this year, I don’t know if you turn that down because you don’t like what will be on the board from 11-20. I agree the board doesn’t line up awesome with our needs in the middle but very few recent mocks have a QB available at 6. If that changes and we’re not interested, it’ll be hard to turn down a boatload of picks. It’s my original point. This gets weird if there’s a QB available at 6. QB or trade back is still my take If the 4 qbs are gone, is someone really going to want to trade up with us? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 2, 2024 8:38:30 GMT -5
QB or trade back is still my take If the 4 qbs are gone, is someone really going to want to trade up with us? somebody is going to panic is my guess. Somebody is to fall in love with a Penix imo. Too many without a QB |
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Post by shocknaweny on Apr 2, 2024 8:45:35 GMT -5
If The GM and HC trade up. They are toast. No way they are fixing the roster giving up picks. We'll be a single digit win team with no hope for the future. This Ain't 2004 This roster lacks the players with the talent of Tiki Barber Derrick Ward Amani Toomer Osi Umenyiora Chris Snee Michael Strahan David Diehl Luke Petitgout Jeremy Shockey This roster is literally a mess right now. We cannot afford to give a pick this year and 2 picks next year, one will be our 1st round pick. Most likely a top 10 pick. We give up our 1st next year. (still say we are a top 10 pick next year.) IMO top 5. We are giving up these guys. LSU CB Zy Alexander 6'2" 188 4.4-40 Missouri WR Luther Burden III 5'11" 215 4.4-40 FSU EDGE Patrick Payton 6"5" 239 4.7 40 With our roster the mess that it currently is I could definitely see that 2025 pick being 1st or 2nd overall so any trade to 3 or 4th overall cannot include a future 1 |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 2, 2024 8:54:34 GMT -5
but will Shoen answer the phone... . Dude, almost had coffee shoot out my nose on that. I strive to make people laugh... |
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Post by Nite on Apr 2, 2024 8:57:53 GMT -5
**** A TRADE ............... stay where we are and take a WR. Set the team up for the next qb we eventually get and if we suck this year it is what it is. Build the team up first....... we need all the picks we got and can get......... Sure Scenario: After an earth scorching 8 - 9 2024 campaign Mara 'influences' Schoen to extend Jones after posting 18 TDs 11 Ints (29th ranked Offense) numbers and gets injured (again) running for a 1st down in a meaningless game. Our 1st round wr posts 4 TDs 25 catches and gets injured in the 10th game. The excuse now will be "our 1st round wr got injured what can you do? Have to give him more time". A few of our FA OL after performing well will also get injured so thats another excuse. I don't get it. We need a QB so what do we do? Get a WR? Doesn't make sense. Well at least its better than selecting a HoFer RB. As for selecting a QB I guess we can get Rattler in the 4th. If he is available by then Well the good news is that by the time Arch Manning declares for the draft we (Mara) will be in position to pick him. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 2, 2024 9:47:48 GMT -5
I'm ok giving up draft picks for proven talent, like bringing in Burns. Giving up draft picks to take a chance on the 3rd QB off the board just seems like a mistake, especially since there is a chance he falls to #6 anyway.
They think they can win with (a healthy) Jones. They brought in Lock as injury insurance. Let's see what falls to us at 6 and make a decision from there.
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. cdn I'm thinking more the opposite. Why aren't we taking the QB if one falls to #6 ? If we want one of the top 3 WR's were going to get one. At least 1 of them if not 2 of them will (not should) be there. Why would we trade back and give that up ? Is anybody trading up for a WR in this draft with all the talent at WR ? So QB is the only position to trade up for. Minny, Vegas, or Denver have already made their pitch to the Cards and Chargers before they get to us. If the Cards don't want their blue chip WR they make the trade. I'm thinking we make an offer to the Cards for the 4th QB to move only 2 spots and they still get their WR. at #6. If we want the QB. If not just sit and take one of those top 3 WR's. If we don't like any QB's or WR's in the top 6 then try and trade back. What are the odds of that we don't like any of those players who are all better than what we got at QB or WR ? |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 2, 2024 10:07:07 GMT -5
I looked at this looked at this. IMO if we do not stay in the top 10. I do not see a reason to drop down, We Need a WR. ILB, DB, OG . A WR will be there art 6. We are not moving down to take a corner in round 1 2 years in a row. There is no draftable ILB in the 1st round. We can still do this with taking a WR with 6 Safety Javon Bullard with 47 or Calen Bullock with 70 Sione Vaki with 107, Evan Williams 166 OG Graham Barton 47 or Christian Haynes with 70 , Zak Zinter with 107, Layden Robinson 166 ILB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with 70 or Cedric Gray with 107, Trevin Wallace 166, Tyrice Knight 183 TE Brevyn Spann-For, Jaheim Bell with 107, Erick All with 166.................. late 7rd left. QB Spencer Rattler with 107, Sam Hartman with 166 RB Frank Gore Jr. with 166, Blake Watson with 183 If its Nabers and Odu are left on the board and we’re grading them that high then we absolutely take a WR. Where this gets weird is if Maye or JJ are still available and we don’t love either, and someone like Oakland offers a 1st next year and another quality pick this year, I don’t know if you turn that down because you don’t like what will be on the board from 11-20. I agree the board doesn’t line up awesome with our needs in the middle but very few recent mocks have a QB available at 6. If that changes and we’re not interested, it’ll be hard to turn down a boatload of picks. It’s my original point. This gets weird if there’s a QB available at 6. Oh I see your point I hadn't read down the page yet on my previous post to get to this one. Where I'm asking this question. I don't think our GM and HC can help themselves they love QB's. They probably want their own guy. I can't see them not taking a shot at the QB. If they don't get the QB they take an elite WR. I think these are the 2 best choices. |
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Post by Shadow on Apr 2, 2024 10:29:26 GMT -5
Depends on which QB is there at 4.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 2, 2024 10:54:52 GMT -5
**** A TRADE ............... stay where we are and take a WR. Set the team up for the next qb we eventually get and if we suck this year it is what it is. Build the team up first....... we need all the picks we got and can get......... Sure Scenario: After an earth scorching 8 - 9 2024 campaign Mara 'influences' Schoen to extend Jones after posting 18 TDs 11 Ints (29th ranked Offense) numbers and gets injured (again) running for a 1st down in a meaningless game. Our 1st round wr posts 4 TDs 25 catches and gets injured in the 10th game. The excuse now will be "our 1st round wr got injured what can you do? Have to give him more time". A few of our FA OL after performing well will also get injured so thats another excuse. I don't get it. We need a QB so what do we do? Get a WR? Doesn't make sense. Well at least its better than selecting a HoFer RB. As for selecting a QB I guess we can get Rattler in the 4th. If he is available by then Well the good news is that by the time Arch Manning declares for the draft we (Mara) will be in position to pick him. I disagree that Mara will force and if Jones has those kind of numbers and even if we finish with that record it doesn't mean we don't stay with Lock or any other FA to come in as a stop gap or draft one in '25....... |
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Post by jimc on Apr 2, 2024 12:12:44 GMT -5
Sure Scenario: After an earth scorching 8 - 9 2024 campaign Mara 'influences' Schoen to extend Jones after posting 18 TDs 11 Ints (29th ranked Offense) numbers and gets injured (again) running for a 1st down in a meaningless game. Our 1st round wr posts 4 TDs 25 catches and gets injured in the 10th game. The excuse now will be "our 1st round wr got injured what can you do? Have to give him more time". A few of our FA OL after performing well will also get injured so thats another excuse. I don't get it. We need a QB so what do we do? Get a WR? Doesn't make sense. Well at least its better than selecting a HoFer RB. As for selecting a QB I guess we can get Rattler in the 4th. If he is available by then Well the good news is that by the time Arch Manning declares for the draft we (Mara) will be in position to pick him. I disagree that Mara will force and if Jones has those kind of numbers and even if we finish with that record it doesn't mean we don't stay with Lock or any other FA to come in as a stop gap or draft one in '25....... Is there any guarantee that any of these QB are or will be better than DJ? There is no guarantee, so you need to evaluate the risk and effect of missing. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 2, 2024 12:16:57 GMT -5
I disagree that Mara will force and if Jones has those kind of numbers and even if we finish with that record it doesn't mean we don't stay with Lock or any other FA to come in as a stop gap or draft one in '25....... Is there any guarantee that any of these QB are or will be better than DJ? There is no guarantee, so you need to evaluate the risk and effect of missing. nope sure isn't so I think for the investment they made and still some of the unknowns with him they will take that risk this year after again further improve the O line for the biggest thing and still provide a no. 1 WR. Sure other qb's have did well without a true no. 1 but that's not a reason to not try and get one especially if some will be there...... |
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Post by Nite on Apr 2, 2024 14:54:46 GMT -5
Sure Scenario: After an earth scorching 8 - 9 2024 campaign Mara 'influences' Schoen to extend Jones after posting 18 TDs 11 Ints (29th ranked Offense) numbers and gets injured (again) running for a 1st down in a meaningless game. Our 1st round wr posts 4 TDs 25 catches and gets injured in the 10th game. The excuse now will be "our 1st round wr got injured what can you do? Have to give him more time". A few of our FA OL after performing well will also get injured so thats another excuse. I don't get it. We need a QB so what do we do? Get a WR? Doesn't make sense. Well at least its better than selecting a HoFer RB. As for selecting a QB I guess we can get Rattler in the 4th. If he is available by then Well the good news is that by the time Arch Manning declares for the draft we (Mara) will be in position to pick him. I disagree that Mara will force and if Jones has those kind of numbers and even if we finish with that record it doesn't mean we don't stay with Lock or any other FA to come in as a stop gap or draft one in '25....... Uhh. He already has inserted himself into offseason team meetings. Talks to the press like he is part of the FO. Actually he is because he is the final word on matters regards draft picks QBs SQB etc. Put it another way, If Schoen wants something and Mara doesn't who wins? Mara can't help himself he is a meddler and a control freak |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 2, 2024 15:04:29 GMT -5
I disagree that Mara will force and if Jones has those kind of numbers and even if we finish with that record it doesn't mean we don't stay with Lock or any other FA to come in as a stop gap or draft one in '25....... Is there any guarantee that any of these QB are or will be better than DJ? There is no guarantee, so you need to evaluate the risk and effect of missing. IMO, they will have to take that risk this year or next year and most likely there won’t be as many QB options next year and they’ll have to give up more to move up. If we don’t go QB I do think we go WR. The O line “should” be better but it’s almost impossible for them to be worse, they need to be A LOT better. By default, I would think DJ will do better than last year, and 2022 was a joke, but I don’t think he’s the answer at QB for the long term so either way, they need to pull the trigger on a QB within the next 1-2 years. If they finish worse than the 6th overall pick without drafting a QB this year, neither Schoen nor Dabs may have a job in 2025 and our new GM will be drafting a QB. |
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Post by imgrate on Apr 2, 2024 16:23:26 GMT -5
If the 4 qbs are gone, is someone really going to want to trade up with us? somebody is going to panic is my guess. Somebody is to fall in love with a Penix imo. Too many without a QB Gotcha. I don’t see that happening. Only potential trade back I could see happening is if one of the 4 QBs are there. And if we don’t like the QBs that falls to us, and MHJ and Nabers are off the board, I could see us wanting to trade out of the pick. But draft time is crazy time, so we’ll see… |
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 2, 2024 16:59:50 GMT -5
I'm ok giving up draft picks for proven talent, like bringing in Burns. Giving up draft picks to take a chance on the 3rd QB off the board just seems like a mistake, especially since there is a chance he falls to #6 anyway.
They think they can win with (a healthy) Jones. They brought in Lock as injury insurance. Let's see what falls to us at 6 and make a decision from there.
I think there’s a 90% chance that we pick at 6 or move back. I’ve said it in other threads, with all the stories swirling around, this draft feels like one of those drafts where someone (probably a QB) falls farther than anyone anticipated. It’ll be interesting to see how we react if a top 4 QB falls to 6. As we’re getting closer to the 25th there’s more and more content that says the top 3 QBs aren’t simply interchangeable, and neither are the top 3 WRs. So it’s conceivable that someone is available at 6 that no one anticipated and we use that to jack the price of our pick up. All drafts are interesting but the QB/WR dynamic of this one is unique. Yeah I would be shocked if we trade up.
There has never been a draft with 4 QBs in the first 4 picks, I doubt this is the one. 4 QBs in the top 10 is pretty rare. I think we will see someone fall. The only strange thing is this draft doesn't have a highly touted defender (DE/EDGE/CB) to jump up there. It's all QBs and WRs, which is unique for sure.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 2, 2024 17:34:16 GMT -5
If the 4 qbs are gone, is someone really going to want to trade up with us? somebody is going to panic is my guess. Somebody is to fall in love with a Penix imo. Too many without a QB At 6 though? I think Penix at best is a late first round pick. I think there might be some teams willing to move up for Nabers or Odunze. I doubt any is giving up two first round picks. Maybe some day 2 picks. If we got a 2, 3, and say a 5 or 6 that wouldn't be terrible. But would it be worth it to pass on the WR's? |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 2, 2024 17:45:44 GMT -5
I looked at this looked at this. IMO if we do not stay in the top 10. I do not see a reason to drop down, We Need a WR. ILB, DB, OG . A WR will be there art 6. We are not moving down to take a corner in round 1 2 years in a row. There is no draftable ILB in the 1st round. We can still do this with taking a WR with 6 Safety Javon Bullard with 47 or Calen Bullock with 70 Sione Vaki with 107, Evan Williams 166 OG Graham Barton 47 or Christian Haynes with 70 , Zak Zinter with 107, Layden Robinson 166 ILB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with 70 or Cedric Gray with 107, Trevin Wallace 166, Tyrice Knight 183 TE Brevyn Spann-For, Jaheim Bell with 107, Erick All with 166.................. late 7rd left. QB Spencer Rattler with 107, Sam Hartman with 166 RB Frank Gore Jr. with 166, Blake Watson with 183 If its Nabers and Odu are left on the board and we’re grading them that high then we absolutely take a WR. Where this gets weird is if Maye or JJ are still available and we don’t love either, and someone like Oakland offers a 1st next year and another quality pick this year, I don’t know if you turn that down because you don’t like what will be on the board from 11-20. I agree the board doesn’t line up awesome with our needs in the middle but very few recent mocks have a QB available at 6. If that changes and we’re not interested, it’ll be hard to turn down a boatload of picks. It’s my original point. This gets weird if there’s a QB available at 6. The only way that happens though is if the Vikings don't trade up for McCarthy. They set up their offseason and geared their draft for a QB, you combine clear interest with a need for a QB. They have to make a move for somebody. The other possibility is that the Patriots pass on a QB. I can't see that either. I just don't see any logical scenario where 4 QB's don't go top-5 at worst. It's only a question of who lands them. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 2, 2024 17:49:22 GMT -5
1- Williams (Chi)
2- Daniels (Was)
3- Maye (NE)
4- McCarthy (Min)
5- Alt (SD)
6- Harrison Jr. (NYG???)
With all the rumors of teams trading up for McCarthy the possibility of MHJ isn’t as far fetched as it once seemed. Still unlikely, but if Minnesota jumps to #4 who’s to say Harbaugh wouldn’t prefer an OL at #5?
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 2, 2024 18:42:27 GMT -5
somebody is going to panic is my guess. Somebody is to fall in love with a Penix imo. Too many without a QB At 6 though? I think Penix at best is a late first round pick. I think there might be some teams willing to move up for Nabers or Odunze. I doubt any is giving up two first round picks. Maybe some day 2 picks. If we got a 2, 3, and say a 5 or 6 that wouldn't be terrible. But would it be worth it to pass on the WR's? you are the GM of the Raiders or Broncos. You have no QB in a division with the defending champs who have Mahomes and Herbert in a Charger. What’s your play knowing hope is not a strategy and your clock is already running? |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 2, 2024 20:03:49 GMT -5
At 6 though? I think Penix at best is a late first round pick. I think there might be some teams willing to move up for Nabers or Odunze. I doubt any is giving up two first round picks. Maybe some day 2 picks. If we got a 2, 3, and say a 5 or 6 that wouldn't be terrible. But would it be worth it to pass on the WR's? you are the GM of the Raiders or Broncos. You have no QB in a division with the defending champs who have Mahomes and Herbert in a Charger. What’s your play knowing hope is not a strategy and your clock is already running? Trade up for Maye or McCarthy? I get what you're saying but strategically, who are they competing with in the top-10 for Penix? And if you're going down that road, there's always Nix who is not rated much far behind. I think mid-late first round is the sweet spot for the tier 2 QB's. And then there are the Giants who need a QB just as badly and just had dinner with Penix. Would they pass him up if he were in the conversation in the top-10? What would our QB options be then? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 2, 2024 21:55:48 GMT -5
you are the GM of the Raiders or Broncos. You have no QB in a division with the defending champs who have Mahomes and Herbert in a Charger. What’s your play knowing hope is not a strategy and your clock is already running? Trade up for Maye or McCarthy? I get what you're saying but strategically, who are they competing with in the top-10 for Penix? And if you're going down that road, there's always Nix who is not rated much far behind. I think mid-late first round is the sweet spot for the tier 2 QB's. the Broncos and Raiders are competing with each other. Loser is the one in the division without a QB. |
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Post by Martin on Apr 2, 2024 22:51:19 GMT -5
I disagree that Mara will force and if Jones has those kind of numbers and even if we finish with that record it doesn't mean we don't stay with Lock or any other FA to come in as a stop gap or draft one in '25....... Is there any guarantee that any of these QB are or will be better than DJ? There is no guarantee, so you need to evaluate the risk and effect of missing. This maybe true yet is there any guarantee that Jones will get injured and lost for the season or career? The Giants need insurance which is why they need a QB. Lock is a 1 yr deal with question marks and Jones has big question marks. The draft is not a slam dunk either. By taking a QB you increase the odds that either Jones becomes who we thought he should be or Lock becomes what he was suppose to be or the Giants get lucky with a QB draft pick that is a home run. 3 scenarios where one might payoff. |
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