Modog
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Post by Modog on Apr 23, 2024 12:23:51 GMT -5
It's always been obvious Drake Maye was the Giants guy. Joe Schoen went to UNC to watch him 6 times. Then there's the Eli connection. Supposedly Eli's been mentoring him pre-draft. I think Pats take him, then there's the slim possibility they like JJ better. I thought Eli mentored Jones Jones was a participant in Manning camp. Their real connection is they share the same college coach, Cutcliffe. In Drakes case, hes getting advice from Eli predraft. nypost.com/2024/02/08/sports/drake-maye-reveals-eli-manning-is-helping-his-2024-nfl-draft-prep/ |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 23, 2024 14:13:55 GMT -5
I would try to get The Bears to trade 1 and 9 for 6. Think about it. 6 is much better than 10. A better deal for Chicago. Wesley Steinberg needs to use this math in the official 2024 draft pick value matrix. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 23, 2024 14:17:34 GMT -5
I often wonder if there is a man whos gets as much acclaim, for doing as little was Cutcliffe has ever done. |
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Post by ratbastich on Apr 23, 2024 14:25:00 GMT -5
I often wonder if there is a man whos gets as much acclaim, for doing as little was Cutcliffe has ever done. Nope, I don't think so. His name pops up almost every other year attached to some QB. His name is spoken in hushed whispers and even Chuck Norris and Jonas Seawright fear him. |
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 23, 2024 14:40:40 GMT -5
If I’m at 3, the only way I’m not picking is if someone makes me look smart for not picking. That means an absolute minimum of next years 1st, and much much more. It’s a no lose situation. I draft Maye, or I absolutely rip off my trade partner. Let me put it this way, if I am a team with the #3 pick I need a QB, why trade away the pick when we can fill the need? . That’s the only way to look at it. Most fans look at what they’d be willing to give up. That’s the wrong approach. You’re looking at it correctly. Let’s say you love Maye (most do, not Analyst, but most have him as the 5th or 6th best prospect in the draft), what would you need to accept a trade instead of picking Mayr. And the answer is an absurd amount of draft capital. Not simply an overpay. An absurd amount. So much that anyone looking at thr trad would say “I’d take those picks instead of a franchise QB”. And if they think your price is crazy, then you’d take a franchise QB instead. Win win. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 23, 2024 14:50:49 GMT -5
Let me put it this way, if I am a team with the #3 pick I need a QB, why trade away the pick when we can fill the need? . That’s the only way to look at it. Most fans look at what they’d be willing to give up. That’s the wrong approach. You’re looking at it correctly. Let’s say you love Maye (most do, not Analyst, but most have him as the 5th or 6th best prospect in the draft), what would you need to accept a trade instead of picking Mayr. And the answer is an absurd amount of draft capital. Not simply an overpay. An absurd amount. So much that anyone looking at thr trad would say “I’d take those picks instead of a franchise QB”. And if they think your price is crazy, then you’d take a franchise QB instead. Win win. yeah i agree, i think they only way NE is even entertaining offers is they have JJ/Maye similarity rated. the problem is, trading back posses risk IF you want a QB. |
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 23, 2024 15:05:54 GMT -5
. That’s the only way to look at it. Most fans look at what they’d be willing to give up. That’s the wrong approach. You’re looking at it correctly. Let’s say you love Maye (most do, not Analyst, but most have him as the 5th or 6th best prospect in the draft), what would you need to accept a trade instead of picking Mayr. And the answer is an absurd amount of draft capital. Not simply an overpay. An absurd amount. So much that anyone looking at thr trad would say “I’d take those picks instead of a franchise QB”. And if they think your price is crazy, then you’d take a franchise QB instead. Win win. yeah i agree, i think they only way NE is even entertaining offers is they have JJ/Maye similarity rated. the problem is, trading back posses risk IF you want a QB. . I think they want to draft Maye. Pretty badly. And I think they know that teams are frothy for QBs and they’re hoping someone is really unreasonably desperate. This works particularly well if you also like Penix or Nix. You could really create a bank of draft capital and bring a lower rated QB on slowly. Can’t wait for Thurs. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 23, 2024 15:35:13 GMT -5
yeah i agree, i think they only way NE is even entertaining offers is they have JJ/Maye similarity rated. the problem is, trading back posses risk IF you want a QB. . I think they want to draft Maye. Pretty badly. And I think they know that teams are frothy for QBs and they’re hoping someone is really unreasonably desperate. This works particularly well if you also like Penix or Nix. You could really create a bank of draft capital and bring a lower rated QB on slowly. Can’t wait for Thurs. Yeah, totally. im done thinking of the permutations + combinations. Just give me the goods and we can start projecting based on that! |
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Modog
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Post by Modog on Apr 23, 2024 15:53:13 GMT -5
I am expecting the worse.
1. Bears -- Williams
2. Commies -- Daniels
3. Pats -- Maye
4. Cardinals -- take Harrison Jr
5. Vikings -- JJ
6. Giants settle Nabers
You know what's funny, teams 1, 2, 3 .. all drafted QBs within 3 years and have moved on from their mistakes and are in position to take their next QB prospect... Meanwhile Giants are still stuck with Dan Jones going into year 6
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 23, 2024 15:55:16 GMT -5
I am expecting the worse. 1. Bears -- Williams 2. Commies -- Daniels 3. Pats take -- Maye 4. Cardinals -- take Harrison Jr 5. Vikings -- JJ 6. Giants settle Nabers You know what's funny, teams 1, 2, 3 .. all drafted QBs within 3 years and have moved on from their mistakes and are in position to take their next QB prospect... Meanwhile Giants are still stuck with Dan Jones going into year 6 seems to be the highest probability here. i think if this is the case, Schoen and Dabes will draft one of Nix or Penix. Trade up in the second I know people are saying first round picks for NIx/Penix. I dont buy it, too many holes. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 23, 2024 15:56:50 GMT -5
I am expecting the worse. 1. Bears -- Williams 2. Commies -- Daniels 3. Pats -- Maye 4. Cardinals -- take Harrison Jr 5. Vikings -- JJ 6. Giants settle Nabers You know what's funny, teams 1, 2, 3 .. all drafted QBs within 3 years and have moved on from their mistakes and are in position to take their next QB prospect... Meanwhile Giants are still stuck with Dan Jones going into year 6 I think Nabers is one of the top players in the draft, and will be a great receiver. He can be very explosive, something we've lacked since we had a healthy Odell. Not a bad "worst case" imo. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 23, 2024 15:59:07 GMT -5
I am expecting the worse. 1. Bears -- Williams 2. Commies -- Daniels 3. Pats -- Maye 4. Cardinals -- take Harrison Jr 5. Vikings -- JJ 6. Giants settle Nabers You know what's funny, teams 1, 2, 3 .. all drafted QBs within 3 years and have moved on from their mistakes and are in position to take their next QB prospect... Meanwhile Giants are still stuck with Dan Jones going into year 6 I think Nabers is one of the top players in the draft, and will be a great receiver. He can be very explosive, something we've lacked since we had a healthy Odell. Not a bad "worst case" imo. If we get Nabers we should, and will, be thrilled. He's fantastic. Just tough to be relevant with out a QB. |
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 23, 2024 17:11:55 GMT -5
I am expecting the worse. 1. Bears -- Williams 2. Commies -- Daniels 3. Pats -- Maye 4. Cardinals -- take Harrison Jr 5. Vikings -- JJ 6. Giants settle Nabers You know what's funny, teams 1, 2, 3 .. all drafted QBs within 3 years and have moved on from their mistakes and are in position to take their next QB prospect... Meanwhile Giants are still stuck with Dan Jones going into year 6 The "worst" would be trading up or even drafting at #6, JJ McCarthy. I would love one of those 3 WR's. That is a win as far as I'm concerned. If they find a way to draft Drake Maye, I will also be happy as there are really good WR prospects in RD 2. |
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