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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 1, 2018 9:27:17 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 1, 2018 9:28:28 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years He would have re-injured his knee in his first game back. That's just how it's been rolling for us these days.
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Post by wtfjjk on Nov 1, 2018 9:29:00 GMT -5
He set us back several years several years ago.
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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Nov 1, 2018 9:32:01 GMT -5
Yes let’s continue to finger point cuz that solves everything.
Wait! No it doesn’t ...it’s just makes some people feel better about themselves.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 1, 2018 9:34:43 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years I'll let you in on a secret. we could have drafted a QB last year either way.
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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 1, 2018 9:35:18 GMT -5
Yes let’s continue to finger point cuz that solves everything. Wait! No it doesn’t ...it’s just makes some people feel better about themselves. uh....this is a message board about the Giants. Its ok to look forward...its also ok to look at the past.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 1, 2018 9:35:35 GMT -5
The team was in the midst of a 3 year period setting records for most players on IR and most games missed due to injury and you suggest we take a guy coming off a blown out knee with the 9th overall pick? Take a look back at the 2015 draft btw,seems we weren't the only team that had their pick not work out.
And you don't take a qb "just because " if you aren't 100% convinced any of the guys were legit franchise qbs? What if Mayfield was the only guy they liked enough to pick at 2?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:36:30 GMT -5
You can't possibly know what the 2018 draft status would've been if the Giants went with Gurley in 2015.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:38:16 GMT -5
The team was in the midst of a 3 year period setting records for most players on IR and most games missed due to injury and you suggest we take a guy coming off a blown out knee with the 9th overall pick? Take a look back at the 2015 draft btw,seems we weren't the only team that had their pick not work out. And you don't take a qb "just because " if you aren't 100% convinced any of the guys were legit franchise qbs? What if Mayfield was the only guy they liked enough to pick at 2? 2015 was one of the worst draft classes ever.
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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Nov 1, 2018 9:39:46 GMT -5
Yes let’s continue to finger point cuz that solves everything. Wait! No it doesn’t ...it’s just makes some people feel better about themselves. uh....this is a message board about the Giants. Its ok to look forward...its also ok to look at the past. It’s petty to dwell on the past. It’s also petty with the whole blame game crap..it’s grade school level s*** that adults should of evolved past already. Yet here we are...
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Post by bluejayc on Nov 1, 2018 9:39:49 GMT -5
If the Giants drafted Herschel Walker instead of George Adams in the 1985 Draft they would have had the ultimate dynasty......George Young set this team back years in failing to do so.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 1, 2018 9:41:09 GMT -5
The team was in the midst of a 3 year period setting records for most players on IR and most games missed due to injury and you suggest we take a guy coming off a blown out knee with the 9th overall pick? Take a look back at the 2015 draft btw,seems we weren't the only team that had their pick not work out. And you don't take a qb "just because " if you aren't 100% convinced any of the guys were legit franchise qbs? What if Mayfield was the only guy they liked enough to pick at 2? What did we do when Eli was the top pick?
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 1, 2018 10:03:45 GMT -5
Gurley woud have left the crap fest in free agency. Wishful thinking
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 1, 2018 10:05:11 GMT -5
If the Giants drafted Herschel Walker instead of George Adams in the 1985 Draft they would have had the ultimate dynasty......George Young set this team back years in failing to do so. You avatar ...LMAO We'll get those guys one day
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 1, 2018 10:08:57 GMT -5
Have you watched the QB's who were drafted in the top 10 play this season? Seen their stats? Aside from BM, how have they looked? I will tell you....not very good.
Don't give me Darnold, he is a TO machine, Rosen not much better. Allen is hurt and hasn't played in weeks....
Let it go....these guys are not that good and never thought they were.....
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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 1, 2018 10:09:02 GMT -5
2015 Giants draft at # 9 AND the Rams #10...…..
New York Giants
1 (9) Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami 2 (33) Landon Collins, S, Alabama 3 (74) Owamagbe Odighizuwa 5 (144) Mykkele Thompson, DB, Texas 6 (186) Geremy Davis, WR, UConn 6 (226) Bobby Hart, OG, Florida State
Had it not been for the spectacular sophomore season of Landon Collins, this class might have been lost in the weeds altogether. A shame, really, given that Ereck Flowers had remarkable tools to be a run-blocking force in East Rutherford. Now, he’ll be lucky to win the right tackle job out of camp. Odighizuwa is no longer with the team, nor is Thompson or Davis. Mid- to late-round struggles in the draft eventually led to the ouster of Jerry Reese as GM.
RAMS
Los Angeles (St. Louis) Rams
1 (10) Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia 2 (57) Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin 3 (72) Jamon Brown, OT, Louisville 3 (89) Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State 4 (119) Andrew Donnal, OT, Iowa 6 (201) Bud Sasser, WR, Missouri 6 (215) Cody Wichmann, G, Fresno State 7 (224) Bryce Hager, LB, Baylor 7 (227) Martin Ifedi, DE, Memphis
Who knew at the time this would be a foundational draft for the Los Angeles Rams? Their second- and third-rounders are now regular starters on a powerhouse offensive line that simply needed to add one anchor and shed some dead weight. And then, of course, there is Gurley. While it’s a risky maneuver to draft a back high, he has paid off one of the offense’s centerpieces.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 1, 2018 10:10:27 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years If JR drafted Watson in stead of Engrem hind sight is 20-20.JR had some miss steps drafting players with red flags and Gurley was coming off a knee I understand why he didn't.I thought for sure he was going to draft Watson.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:11:21 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years Nonsense and you know it. DG said he didn't like any of the QB's taken in the first round, so explain how Reese drafting Gurley would have changed that? This is simply an attempt to excuse away a poor decision by DG.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 1, 2018 10:16:05 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years Nonsense and you know it. DG said he didn't like any of the QB's taken in the first round, so explain how Reese drafting Gurley would have changed that? This is simply an attempt to excuse away a poor decision by DG. He didn't say that at all.
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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 1, 2018 10:19:48 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years Nonsense and you know it. DG said he didn't like any of the QB's taken in the first round, so explain how Reese drafting Gurley would have changed that? This is simply an attempt to excuse away a poor decision by DG. Because DG values a strong O-Line with a good running game. He believed with the addition of Solder, Omameh, and Heneandez the O-line was improved...so He took Barkley a stud of a running back.....had DG inherited Gurley....he could have picked a QB to his liking. We don't know if DG liked OR didn't like any of the QBs
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Post by solomonphoenix on Nov 1, 2018 10:25:42 GMT -5
[quoteo author="@ibleedblue" source="/post/79033/thread" timestamp="1541085081"]Nonsense and you know it. DG said he didn't like any of the QB's taken in the first round, so explain how Reese drafting Gurley would have changed that? This is simply an attempt to excuse away a poor decision by DG. Because DG values a strong O-Line with a good running game. He believed with the addition of Solder, Omameh, and Heneandez the O-line was improved...so He took Barkley a stud of a running back.....had DG inherited Gurley....he could have picked a QB to his liking. We don't know if DG liked OR didn't like any of the QBs [/quote] He believed it would be improved and he was wrong. He believed Eli still had more in the tank and was wrong. He believed this was a win now team and was wrong. How much more can this organization afford for him to be wrong about?
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 1, 2018 10:45:43 GMT -5
The team was in the midst of a 3 year period setting records for most players on IR and most games missed due to injury and you suggest we take a guy coming off a blown out knee with the 9th overall pick? Take a look back at the 2015 draft btw,seems we weren't the only team that had their pick not work out. And you don't take a qb "just because " if you aren't 100% convinced any of the guys were legit franchise qbs? What if Mayfield was the only guy they liked enough to pick at 2? What did we do when Eli was the top pick? The right thing Problem with this thinking is that there was only one team ahead of us. They coveted Mayfield.There was not a chance in hell they were going to give up that pick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 11:24:01 GMT -5
Nonsense and you know it. DG said he didn't like any of the QB's taken in the first round, so explain how Reese drafting Gurley would have changed that? This is simply an attempt to excuse away a poor decision by DG. He didn't say that at all. Didn't say what? Did you actually pay attention to what I said?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 11:26:54 GMT -5
Nonsense and you know it. DG said he didn't like any of the QB's taken in the first round, so explain how Reese drafting Gurley would have changed that? This is simply an attempt to excuse away a poor decision by DG. Because DG values a strong O-Line with a good running game. He believed with the addition of Solder, Omameh, and Heneandez the O-line was improved...so He took Barkley a stud of a running back.....had DG inherited Gurley....he could have picked a QB to his liking. We don't know if DG liked OR didn't like any of the QBs A little fact checking for you. nypost.com/2018/04/27/dave-gettleman-giants-didnt-fall-in-love-with-a-qb/
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Post by redeyejedi on Nov 4, 2018 9:06:03 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years Yes he made very poor decisions the beginning of the end was taking David Wilson over Cordy Glenn
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Post by TEM on Nov 4, 2018 9:23:20 GMT -5
I love these Arm-chair GM threads .
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 4, 2018 14:23:52 GMT -5
I love these Arm-chair GM threads . We had an armchair GM running this team for 10 seasons. Ereck Flowers and Eli Apple was an actual thing around here. Remember Clint Sintim? Or how bout everyone’s favorite Marvin Austin? Most of Jerry Reese’s draft picks are selling life insurance somewhere right now.
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Post by EliQB10 on Nov 4, 2018 14:31:56 GMT -5
I love these Arm-chair GM threads . We had an armchair GM running this team for 10 seasons. Ereck Flowers and Eli Apple was an actual thing around here. Remember Clint Sintim? Or how bout everyone’s favorite Marvin Austin? Most of Jerry Reese’s draft picks are selling life insurance somewhere right now. Yup...and we are reaping the whirlwind now from all of those swings and misses in the draft....
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Post by Parademon1 on Nov 4, 2018 14:53:06 GMT -5
How many of those Reese draft picks with long African sounding names are still in the NFL besides Prince?
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Post by EliQB10 on Nov 4, 2018 18:48:23 GMT -5
If Jerry Reese drafted Todd Gurley instead of Flowers.....we could have went for a QB this past draft. He set us back several years He might have looked like a competent GM
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