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Post by TEM on Aug 20, 2019 20:51:38 GMT -5
Big win against a good team . Matz with another great game.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 20, 2019 23:36:25 GMT -5
Big win against a good team . Matz with another great game. Yup. They look like a hot team having fun. Keep it rolling emoji
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 21, 2019 15:28:18 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the possibility the Red Sox trading Mookie Betts this offseason with 1 year left under contract (Arb year so he will probably get $25m ish).
Then it hit me. The Mets would be an ideal spot for Betts. Not only because of the songs/chants the fans could come up with due to the rhyming names, and the fact they would love another Mookie, but if they brought in Mookie, it would generate HUGE buzz for the Mets (arguably a top 5 player in all of baseball). A star in the middle of his peaking of his career.
The question is, what do the Red Sox want for him. Since its only 1 year and an expensive year, it would be cheapened a bit, but still costly. My thoughts is they would want cost controlled pitching for 2020 since Sale is now a huge question and the rest of the rotation is struggling to keep up. Thor would be the starting point. Maybe with Diaz who they could possibly work on his mechanics to get him back straight. Then some minor league talent. Pitchers like Peterson and Allen. And either Giminez/ Mauricio that the RS could see as a future 2B.
Would you guys like that deal? Or is it too much for a 1 year rental as Mookie said he is going to test FA?
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Post by TEM on Aug 21, 2019 16:42:09 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the possibility the Red Sox trading Mookie Betts this offseason with 1 year left under contract (Arb year so he will probably get $25m ish). Then it hit me. The Mets would be an ideal spot for Betts. Not only because of the songs/chants the fans could come up with due to the rhyming names, and the fact they would love another Mookie, but if they brought in Mookie, it would generate HUGE buzz for the Mets (arguably a top 5 player in all of baseball). A star in the middle of his peaking of his career. The question is, what do the Red Sox want for him. Since its only 1 year and an expensive year, it would be cheapened a bit, but still costly. My thoughts is they would want cost controlled pitching for 2020 since Sale is now a huge question and the rest of the rotation is struggling to keep up. Thor would be the starting point. Maybe with Diaz who they could possibly work on his mechanics to get him back straight. Then some minor league talent. Pitchers like Peterson and Allen. And either Giminez/ Mauricio that the RS could see as a future 2B. Would you guys like that deal? Or is it too much for a 1 year rental as Mookie said he is going to test FA? I would never give up a pitcher the quality of Syndergaard who is under contract for 2 more years for an expensive renta player. The Mets are moving in the right direction with the youth on this team . I also think Dias is having a down spat and will bounce back next season. I see no reason to give up any of the youth for Bettts . I would do Cano and Cespedes for Mookie
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 21, 2019 18:53:47 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the possibility the Red Sox trading Mookie Betts this offseason with 1 year left under contract (Arb year so he will probably get $25m ish). Then it hit me. The Mets would be an ideal spot for Betts. Not only because of the songs/chants the fans could come up with due to the rhyming names, and the fact they would love another Mookie, but if they brought in Mookie, it would generate HUGE buzz for the Mets (arguably a top 5 player in all of baseball). A star in the middle of his peaking of his career. The question is, what do the Red Sox want for him. Since its only 1 year and an expensive year, it would be cheapened a bit, but still costly. My thoughts is they would want cost controlled pitching for 2020 since Sale is now a huge question and the rest of the rotation is struggling to keep up. Thor would be the starting point. Maybe with Diaz who they could possibly work on his mechanics to get him back straight. Then some minor league talent. Pitchers like Peterson and Allen. And either Giminez/ Mauricio that the RS could see as a future 2B. Would you guys like that deal? Or is it too much for a 1 year rental as Mookie said he is going to test FA? I would never give up a pitcher the quality of Syndergaard who is under contract for 2 more years for an expensive renta player. The Mets are moving in the right direction with the youth on this team . I also think Dias is having a down spat and will bounce back next season. I see no reason to give up any of the youth for Bettts . I would do Cano and Cespedes for Mookie Bro, that's not even fair in a bizarro world. Cano and Cespedes for Betts? Lol Betts is a full season of play. Thor is 2. You are going to need to give up Thor plus for Betts, who is an MVP candidate every year. Thor as good as he is, doesnt ooze health. They would be crazy to not do that deal one for one and go all in next year. Betts is a game changer for that lineup. It's not like I included McNeal or Alonso or Degrom. If I was a big time Met fan I would be stoked to get Betts for Thor
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Post by TEM on Aug 21, 2019 19:01:07 GMT -5
I would never give up a pitcher the quality of Syndergaard who is under contract for 2 more years for an expensive renta player. The Mets are moving in the right direction with the youth on this team . I also think Dias is having a down spat and will bounce back next season. I see no reason to give up any of the youth for Bettts . I would do Cano and Cespedes for Mookie Bro, that's not even fair in a bizarro world. Cano and Cespedes for Betts? Lol Betts is a full season of play. Thor is 2. You are going to need to give up Thor plus for Betts, who is an MVP candidate every year. Thor as good as he is, doesnt ooze health. They would be crazy to not do that deal one for one and go all in next year. Betts is a game changer for that lineup. It's not like I included McNeal or Alonso or Degrom. If I was a big time Met fan I would be stoked to get Betts for Thor You do not give up a top player for a renta player. Syndergarrd would be a #1 on most rotations. The mets have a Cy Young pitcher as their #1. Calling Noah a #2 is a stretch of the truth.
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Post by Zimonami on Aug 21, 2019 21:41:43 GMT -5
DAMN...
Ya' Gotta Believe!!!!!
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Aug 21, 2019 21:41:50 GMT -5
This team, wow! No quit. Gotta believe, gotta love it!!!
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Post by Zimonami on Aug 21, 2019 21:44:15 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the possibility the Red Sox trading Mookie Betts this offseason with 1 year left under contract (Arb year so he will probably get $25m ish). Then it hit me. The Mets would be an ideal spot for Betts. Not only because of the songs/chants the fans could come up with due to the rhyming names, and the fact they would love another Mookie, but if they brought in Mookie, it would generate HUGE buzz for the Mets (arguably a top 5 player in all of baseball). A star in the middle of his peaking of his career. The question is, what do the Red Sox want for him. Since its only 1 year and an expensive year, it would be cheapened a bit, but still costly. My thoughts is they would want cost controlled pitching for 2020 since Sale is now a huge question and the rest of the rotation is struggling to keep up. Thor would be the starting point. Maybe with Diaz who they could possibly work on his mechanics to get him back straight. Then some minor league talent. Pitchers like Peterson and Allen. And either Giminez/ Mauricio that the RS could see as a future 2B. Would you guys like that deal? Or is it too much for a 1 year rental as Mookie said he is going to test FA? I would never give up a pitcher the quality of Syndergaard who is under contract for 2 more years for an expensive renta player. The Mets are moving in the right direction with the youth on this team . I also think Dias is having a down spat and will bounce back next season. I see no reason to give up any of the youth for Bettts . I would do Cano and Cespedes for Mookie LOL, TEM... you gots to be pulling our legs... an old washed up player, and a never can play player who is always injured... Yep, two sure starters to offer. for one of the best in the Majors
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 21, 2019 22:08:20 GMT -5
Bro, that's not even fair in a bizarro world. Cano and Cespedes for Betts? Lol Betts is a full season of play. Thor is 2. You are going to need to give up Thor plus for Betts, who is an MVP candidate every year. Thor as good as he is, doesnt ooze health. They would be crazy to not do that deal one for one and go all in next year. Betts is a game changer for that lineup. It's not like I included McNeal or Alonso or Degrom. If I was a big time Met fan I would be stoked to get Betts for Thor You do not give up a top player for a renta player. Syndergarrd would be a #1 on most rotations. The mets have a Cy Young pitcher as their #1. Calling Noah a #2 is a stretch of the truth. yeah no Thor stays and in fact I try to sign Wheeler...keep your own,especially really good starting pitching.They have a lot of bats and young ones already. Mets if anything need relief pitching
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 21, 2019 22:09:15 GMT -5
This team, wow! No quit. Gotta believe, gotta love it!!! Against a legit playoff team no less..
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Post by SG88 on Aug 21, 2019 22:41:57 GMT -5
I like seeing our Mets fan friends excited about baseball. The bitching has turned into total excitement. I'm happy for all of you. If the Mets make it to the playoffs (I expect them to), no one wants to see them considering the stellar starting pitching at your disposal.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2019 6:37:07 GMT -5
I would never give up a pitcher the quality of Syndergaard who is under contract for 2 more years for an expensive renta player. The Mets are moving in the right direction with the youth on this team . I also think Dias is having a down spat and will bounce back next season. I see no reason to give up any of the youth for Bettts . I would do Cano and Cespedes for Mookie LOL, TEM... you gots to be pulling our legs... an old washed up player, and a never can play player who is always injured... Yep, two sure starters to offer. for one of the best in the Majors I referenced to show how ridiculous some Yankees fans can be. Not one of them would trade Judge, LeMahieu, Torres. for a pitcher. Yet they will ask Mets fans to trade one of the best pitchers in MLB on a rookie contract for a rental player. As if it would be an enticing venture. Yea it is exactly that.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 22, 2019 9:09:18 GMT -5
I keep hearing about the possibility the Red Sox trading Mookie Betts this offseason with 1 year left under contract (Arb year so he will probably get $25m ish). Then it hit me. The Mets would be an ideal spot for Betts. Not only because of the songs/chants the fans could come up with due to the rhyming names, and the fact they would love another Mookie, but if they brought in Mookie, it would generate HUGE buzz for the Mets (arguably a top 5 player in all of baseball). A star in the middle of his peaking of his career. The question is, what do the Red Sox want for him. Since its only 1 year and an expensive year, it would be cheapened a bit, but still costly. My thoughts is they would want cost controlled pitching for 2020 since Sale is now a huge question and the rest of the rotation is struggling to keep up. Thor would be the starting point. Maybe with Diaz who they could possibly work on his mechanics to get him back straight. Then some minor league talent. Pitchers like Peterson and Allen. And either Giminez/ Mauricio that the RS could see as a future 2B. Would you guys like that deal? Or is it too much for a 1 year rental as Mookie said he is going to test FA? I would only make the trade if Betts signs a multi year deal with us. Why give up future talent for a 1 year rental ? Maybe if we wait another year and just outbid everyone for him and keep everyone. Possibly win another World Series before I die.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 9:27:16 GMT -5
LOL, TEM... you gots to be pulling our legs... an old washed up player, and a never can play player who is always injured... Yep, two sure starters to offer. for one of the best in the Majors I referenced to show how ridiculous some Yankees fans can be. Not one of them would trade Judge, LeMahieu, Torres. for a pitcher. Yet they will ask Mets fans to trade one of the best pitchers in MLB on a rookie contract for a rental player. As if it would be an enticing venture. Yea it is exactly that. I think you are way off. Betts provides much more value to the Mets than Thor. Sorry. Look at his ERA, ERA+, FIP, WHIP this year and injury history. He has never had over 30 starts. Only over 25 starts once. I feel you are overvaluing Thor a bit. Great pitcher when healthy and dealing though, but risky to stay healthy. Degrom is a different story IMO. He is an absolute ace. Betts is an MVP. If you feel your team is that close, you get the MVP bat in your lineup. As for saying Judge/DJL/Torres for a starting pitcher, the equivalent to Mookie Betts as a pitcher is a healthy Max Scherzer or Gerritt Cole. I would trade Judge at this point for them (since we are stuck with Stanton). Judge is an great player and person, but has big holes in his bat and gets injured too much. Yanks definitly cant extend him. I wouldnt trade Gleyber or DJL because if we trade them, our team is worse. What's the point? Those 2 are the reason every day we have a chance. Thor for Betts to me is a no brainer. When you see Mookie everyday in your Mets lineup, you would fall in love too. And then work on a big payday extension. He is worth it. This was hypothetical by the way. It just kinda popped in my head. I thought it would be a great fit for your team in Queens. That stellar pitching rotation hasn't won in Queens yet. If you can add a top bat to it, you do it IMO
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2019 15:49:22 GMT -5
I referenced to show how ridiculous some Yankees fans can be. Not one of them would trade Judge, LeMahieu, Torres. for a pitcher. Yet they will ask Mets fans to trade one of the best pitchers in MLB on a rookie contract for a rental player. As if it would be an enticing venture. Yea it is exactly that. I think you are way off. Betts provides much more value to the Mets than Thor. Sorry. Look at his ERA, ERA+, FIP, WHIP this year and injury history. He has never had over 30 starts. Only over 25 starts once. I feel you are overvaluing Thor a bit. Great pitcher when healthy and dealing though, but risky to stay healthy. Degrom is a different story IMO. He is an absolute ace. Betts is an MVP. If you feel your team is that close, you get the MVP bat in your lineup. As for saying Judge/DJL/Torres for a starting pitcher, the equivalent to Mookie Betts as a pitcher is a healthy Max Scherzer or Gerritt Cole. I would trade Judge at this point for them (since we are stuck with Stanton). Judge is an great player and person, but has big holes in his bat and gets injured too much. Yanks definitly cant extend him. I wouldnt trade Gleyber or DJL because if we trade them, our team is worse. What's the point? Those 2 are the reason every day we have a chance. Thor for Betts to me is a no brainer. When you see Mookie everyday in your Mets lineup, you would fall in love too. And then work on a big payday extension. He is worth it. This was hypothetical by the way. It just kinda popped in my head. I thought it would be a great fit for your team in Queens. That stellar pitching rotation hasn't won in Queens yet. If you can add a top bat to it, you do it IMO What have the Yankees won in the past decade? I believe the Mets with that stellar pitching rotation played in the show just a few years ago. Don't use that you cant win rational. When the Yankees do not have one player on their roster that has played in late October in pinstripes.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 16:08:33 GMT -5
I think you are way off. Betts provides much more value to the Mets than Thor. Sorry. Look at his ERA, ERA+, FIP, WHIP this year and injury history. He has never had over 30 starts. Only over 25 starts once. I feel you are overvaluing Thor a bit. Great pitcher when healthy and dealing though, but risky to stay healthy. Degrom is a different story IMO. He is an absolute ace. Betts is an MVP. If you feel your team is that close, you get the MVP bat in your lineup. As for saying Judge/DJL/Torres for a starting pitcher, the equivalent to Mookie Betts as a pitcher is a healthy Max Scherzer or Gerritt Cole. I would trade Judge at this point for them (since we are stuck with Stanton). Judge is an great player and person, but has big holes in his bat and gets injured too much. Yanks definitly cant extend him. I wouldnt trade Gleyber or DJL because if we trade them, our team is worse. What's the point? Those 2 are the reason every day we have a chance. Thor for Betts to me is a no brainer. When you see Mookie everyday in your Mets lineup, you would fall in love too. And then work on a big payday extension. He is worth it. This was hypothetical by the way. It just kinda popped in my head. I thought it would be a great fit for your team in Queens. That stellar pitching rotation hasn't won in Queens yet. If you can add a top bat to it, you do it IMO What have the Yankees won in the past decade? I believe the Mets with that stellar pitching rotation played in the show just a few years ago. Don't use that you cant win rational. When the Yankees do not have one player on their roster that has played in late October in pinstripes. How is that relevant in any way except just sounding like a baby brother syndrome Mets fan? Come on TEM. Listen, Im not trying to hate on the Mets here. I really do think if they add Betts to what that lineup has now, and the other pieces of the rotation, they could be in the hunt year after year for the NL East. I like the Mets. Not as much as the Yankees but I do root for the Mets when they arent playing. What have the Yankees won? A shit ton of games. A few playoff series. No championships since 2009 though which is why I would trade some top hitters for some pitching. You need a good mix. Yankees dont have shit for pitching which drives me insane they did nothing at the deadline. Betts would prolifically change that lineup. And he plays every game, not every 5th game (with possible injuries). Just my 2 cents. You dont like that, ok. No problem here.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2019 16:21:33 GMT -5
What have the Yankees won in the past decade? I believe the Mets with that stellar pitching rotation played in the show just a few years ago. Don't use that you cant win rational. When the Yankees do not have one player on their roster that has played in late October in pinstripes. How is that relevant in any way except just sounding like a baby brother syndrome Mets fan? Come on TEM. Listen, Im not trying to hate on the Mets here. I really do think if they add Betts to what that lineup has now, and the other pieces of the rotation, they could be in the hunt year after year for the NL East. I like the Mets. Not as much as the Yankees but I do root for the Mets when they arent playing. What have the Yankees won? A shit ton of games. A few ALCSs. No championships since 2009 though which is why I would trade some top hitters for some pitching. You need a good mix. Yankees dont have shit for pitching which drives me insane they did nothing at the deadline. Betts would prolifically change that lineup. And he plays every game, not every 5th game (with possible injuries). Just my 2 cents. You dont like that, ok. No problem here. When you come on the Mets thread and suggest we trade a top 10 pitcher for a rental player.An insulting proposition to even suggest it And use as an excuse your team hasn't won anything with him. Even though he pitched in the World series in the past 3 years ( further insulting mets fans) What would you have said If I said 10 years ago . You should trade Mariano for Miguel Cabrera (Last year of his contract at the time) because Rivera is just a closer and you have other guys in your bullpen ?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 16:41:19 GMT -5
How is that relevant in any way except just sounding like a baby brother syndrome Mets fan? Come on TEM. Listen, Im not trying to hate on the Mets here. I really do think if they add Betts to what that lineup has now, and the other pieces of the rotation, they could be in the hunt year after year for the NL East. I like the Mets. Not as much as the Yankees but I do root for the Mets when they arent playing. What have the Yankees won? A shit ton of games. A few ALCSs. No championships since 2009 though which is why I would trade some top hitters for some pitching. You need a good mix. Yankees dont have shit for pitching which drives me insane they did nothing at the deadline. Betts would prolifically change that lineup. And he plays every game, not every 5th game (with possible injuries). Just my 2 cents. You dont like that, ok. No problem here. When you come on the Mets thread and suggest we trade a top 10 pitcher for a rental player.An insulting proposition to even suggest it And use as an excuse your team hasn't won anything with him. Even though he pitched in the World series in the past 3 years ( further insulting mets fans) What would you have said If I said 10 years ago . You should trade Mariano for Miguel Cabrera (Last year of his contract at the time) because Rivera is just a closer and you have other guys in your bullpen ? Ok, you are obviously taking the hypothetical scenario way too serious TEM. And we all know Mo is way better of a pitcher than Syndergaard can ever be in the grand schemes of things... :-) In all seriousness though, in that scenario, Mo would have to have 2 more controlled years left, that would probably top $20m per season as Noahs will, and Mo would have to have a significant injury history as well, while Miggy would have 1 more year left in the prime of his career like Betts, the money would be a wash in the first year, but the Tigers/Marlins would have Mo for an extra year and do nothing with him. Id take that trade in a heart beat, especially if the Yankees roster was constructed like the Mets are right now pitching heavy. Degrom, Stroman, Matz, Wheeler, and who ever? And adding one of the best bats in the league to a position of need? Sign me up. Mo was a special closer, but they come and go. I would definitely shed a tear for the GOAT but baseball should be a business, the business to win which the Yankees seem to forgot recently. There have been many other hot closers to win a WS. Miggys bat was one of the best I ever saw in his prime. And his defense was phenomenal much like Betts. It only seemed insulting because of your bias of the Mets. Most baseball fans without any bias would trade Thor for Betts in half a second. AND THATS NOT AN INSULT TO THOR. Its just how good Betts is. Now if I said Degrom, then you might have a point.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2019 17:03:14 GMT -5
When you come on the Mets thread and suggest we trade a top 10 pitcher for a rental player.An insulting proposition to even suggest it And use as an excuse your team hasn't won anything with him. Even though he pitched in the World series in the past 3 years ( further insulting mets fans) What would you have said If I said 10 years ago . You should trade Mariano for Miguel Cabrera (Last year of his contract at the time) because Rivera is just a closer and you have other guys in your bullpen ? Ok, you are obviously taking the hypothetical scenario way too serious TEM. And we all know Mo is way better of a pitcher than Syndergaard can ever be in the grand schemes of things... :-) In all seriousness though, in that scenario, Mo would have to have 2 more controlled years left, that would probably top $20m per season as Noahs will, and Mo would have to have a significant injury history as well, while Miggy would have 1 more year left in the prime of his career like Betts, the money would be a wash in the first year, but the Tigers/Marlins would have Mo for an extra year and do nothing with him. Id take that trade in a heart beat, especially if the Yankees roster was constructed like the Mets are right now pitching heavy. Degrom, Stroman, Matz, Wheeler, and who ever? And adding one of the best bats in the league to a position of need? Sign me up. Mo was a special closer, but they come and go. I would definitely shed a tear for the GOAT but baseball should be a business, the business to win which the Yankees seem to forgot recently. There have been many other hot closers to win a WS. Miggys bat was one of the best I ever saw in his prime. And his defense was phenomenal much like Betts. It only seemed insulting because of your bias of the Mets. Most baseball fans without any bias would trade Thor for Betts in half a second. AND THATS NOT AN INSULT TO THOR. Its just how good Betts is. Now if I said Degrom, then you might have a point. Of-course I am going to have bias . I get the other teams fans want to break up an opponents strengths . I can tell you this . I am not the only Met fan that thinks that is not a good deal for the Mets. I know this DeGrom Syndrergarrd Wheeler and Matz are scary to go against. I can also tell you this. No Met fan wants to see that broken up in trades or allowed to walk anytime soon. With the young hitters we have now . We are built to win going forward.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 17:08:04 GMT -5
Ok, you are obviously taking the hypothetical scenario way too serious TEM. And we all know Mo is way better of a pitcher than Syndergaard can ever be in the grand schemes of things... :-) In all seriousness though, in that scenario, Mo would have to have 2 more controlled years left, that would probably top $20m per season as Noahs will, and Mo would have to have a significant injury history as well, while Miggy would have 1 more year left in the prime of his career like Betts, the money would be a wash in the first year, but the Tigers/Marlins would have Mo for an extra year and do nothing with him. Id take that trade in a heart beat, especially if the Yankees roster was constructed like the Mets are right now pitching heavy. Degrom, Stroman, Matz, Wheeler, and who ever? And adding one of the best bats in the league to a position of need? Sign me up. Mo was a special closer, but they come and go. I would definitely shed a tear for the GOAT but baseball should be a business, the business to win which the Yankees seem to forgot recently. There have been many other hot closers to win a WS. Miggys bat was one of the best I ever saw in his prime. And his defense was phenomenal much like Betts. It only seemed insulting because of your bias of the Mets. Most baseball fans without any bias would trade Thor for Betts in half a second. AND THATS NOT AN INSULT TO THOR. Its just how good Betts is. Now if I said Degrom, then you might have a point. Of-course I am going to have bias . I get the other teams fans want to break up an opponents strengths . I can tell you this . I am not the only Met fan that thinks that is not a good deal for the Mets. I know this DeGrom Syndrergarrd Wheeler and Matz are scary to go against. I can also tell you this. No Met fan wants to see that broken up in trades or allowed to walk anytime soon. With the young hitters we have now . We are built to win going forward. I can respect that. That said, Degrom is 8-7 with a 2.61 ERA. Thor is 8-6 with a 3.96 ERA. Matz is 8-7 with a 4.18 ERA. Meanwhile, JA Happ is 10-8 with a 5.58 ERA. Domingo German is 16-3 with a 4.15 ERA. Adding a Betts creates wins. Thats all Im trying to say. Not to mention, I will do cartwheels if Boston is dumb enough to move on from Betts.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2019 17:18:50 GMT -5
Of-course I am going to have bias . I get the other teams fans want to break up an opponents strengths . I can tell you this . I am not the only Met fan that thinks that is not a good deal for the Mets. I know this DeGrom Syndrergarrd Wheeler and Matz are scary to go against. I can also tell you this. No Met fan wants to see that broken up in trades or allowed to walk anytime soon. With the young hitters we have now . We are built to win going forward. I can respect that. That said, Degrom is 8-7 with a 2.61 ERA. Thor is 8-6 with a 3.96 ERA. Matz is 8-7 with a 4.18 ERA. Meanwhile, JA Happ is 10-8 with a 5.58 ERA. Domingo German is 16-3 with a 4.15 ERA. Adding a Betts creates wins. Thats all Im trying to say. Not to mention, I will do cartwheels if Boston is dumb enough to move on from Betts. The yanks can circumvent his production with pitching. That is what you guys need.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2019 17:27:45 GMT -5
I can respect that. That said, Degrom is 8-7 with a 2.61 ERA. Thor is 8-6 with a 3.96 ERA. Matz is 8-7 with a 4.18 ERA. Meanwhile, JA Happ is 10-8 with a 5.58 ERA. Domingo German is 16-3 with a 4.15 ERA. Adding a Betts creates wins. Thats all Im trying to say. Not to mention, I will do cartwheels if Boston is dumb enough to move on from Betts. The yanks can circumvent his production with pitching. That is what you guys need. Ya think? If the Yankees had the Mets rotation they would have 100 wins in july.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2019 20:16:35 GMT -5
Ok, you are obviously taking the hypothetical scenario way too serious TEM. And we all know Mo is way better of a pitcher than Syndergaard can ever be in the grand schemes of things... :-) In all seriousness though, in that scenario, Mo would have to have 2 more controlled years left, that would probably top $20m per season as Noahs will, and Mo would have to have a significant injury history as well, while Miggy would have 1 more year left in the prime of his career like Betts, the money would be a wash in the first year, but the Tigers/Marlins would have Mo for an extra year and do nothing with him. Id take that trade in a heart beat, especially if the Yankees roster was constructed like the Mets are right now pitching heavy. Degrom, Stroman, Matz, Wheeler, and who ever? And adding one of the best bats in the league to a position of need? Sign me up. Mo was a special closer, but they come and go. I would definitely shed a tear for the GOAT but baseball should be a business, the business to win which the Yankees seem to forgot recently. There have been many other hot closers to win a WS. Miggys bat was one of the best I ever saw in his prime. And his defense was phenomenal much like Betts. It only seemed insulting because of your bias of the Mets. Most baseball fans without any bias would trade Thor for Betts in half a second. AND THATS NOT AN INSULT TO THOR. Its just how good Betts is. Now if I said Degrom, then you might have a point. Of-course I am going to have bias . I get the other teams fans want to break up an opponents strengths . I can tell you this . I am not the only Met fan that thinks that is not a good deal for the Mets. I know this DeGrom Syndrergarrd Wheeler and Matz are scary to go against. I can also tell you this. No Met fan wants to see that broken up in trades or allowed to walk anytime soon. With the young hitters we have now . We are built to win going forward. Yeah Let's deal Thor ..... Not
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 23, 2019 0:47:44 GMT -5
It's a fair thought though. If you want quality yo have to give up quality. Betts would be awesome, why would they move him for less than Syndergaard? I don't know that I'd want to give up much more, certainly not a major league talent, but damn, Betts would be a great addition. Look at what the Mets are pissing away on Cano and Cespedes. At least with Betts you'll get what you're paying for.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 23, 2019 5:57:42 GMT -5
It's a fair thought though. If you want quality yo have to give up quality. Betts would be awesome, why would they move him for less than Syndergaard? I don't know that I'd want to give up much more, certainly not a major league talent, but damn, Betts would be a great addition. Look at what the Mets are pissing away on Cano and Cespedes. At least with Betts you'll get what you're paying for. Thank you for being a reasonable person on that discussion. And of course Thor would dominate last night , he is hearing my rumors :-)
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 23, 2019 6:02:08 GMT -5
Of-course I am going to have bias . I get the other teams fans want to break up an opponents strengths . I can tell you this . I am not the only Met fan that thinks that is not a good deal for the Mets. I know this DeGrom Syndrergarrd Wheeler and Matz are scary to go against. I can also tell you this. No Met fan wants to see that broken up in trades or allowed to walk anytime soon. With the young hitters we have now . We are built to win going forward. Yeah Let's deal Thor ..... Not Still didnt change a thing. Thor is a great pitcher when healthy. No denying that. And Betts is a great hitter. There is no room for error though. The lineup only scored 2 runs. Its a reason why DeGrom has a 2.91 ERA and only 8 wins. I asked for your guys thoughts though, so you are giving them to me. Fair enough.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Aug 23, 2019 8:19:34 GMT -5
Broomed the Tribe. Thor with a little extra Twitter love for Indians folks calling Mets a “fringe playoff” team. Why would that organization allow the people who run that stuff take cheap shots at the Mets anyway? Pretty classless. Whatevs, LGM!!!!!!
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 23, 2019 8:28:21 GMT -5
Does anybody think it was B.S. making them come out after the 2 1/2 hour rain delay to continue the game knowing that you had maybe 20-30 minutes before there would be another long rain delay? We have a big series with the Braves who it seems like when we play in Atlanta there is always some type of umpire “strike zone” b.s. Also the thought of have to use Diaz made me have to stay up late.
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Post by TEM on Aug 23, 2019 8:30:45 GMT -5
Yeah Let's deal Thor ..... Not Still didnt change a thing. Thor is a great pitcher when healthy. No denying that. And Betts is a great hitter. There is no room for error though. The lineup only scored 2 runs. Its a reason why DeGrom has a 2.91 ERA and only 8 wins. I asked for your guys thoughts though, so you are giving them to me. Fair enough. Great pitcher > Great hitter .
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