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Post by Delicreep on May 16, 2018 10:06:47 GMT -5
I can see Jerry pushing for that. definitely John mara put the smack down on them a while back got them a big fine for salary cap violations during that uncapped year before the the last collective bargaining agreement was settled. I think that whole salary cap thing is fascinating. Obviously I do not know this to be true, but it sure looks like the owners colluded to honor the salary cap, even if it was not really in place. Since Jones and Snyder cannot come out and say that without getting the whole CBA thrown out, they kinda just had to take it. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 16, 2018 13:19:23 GMT -5
definitely John mara put the smack down on them a while back got them a big fine for salary cap violations during that uncapped year before the the last collective bargaining agreement was settled. I think that whole salary cap thing is fascinating. Obviously I do not know this to be true, but it sure looks like the owners colluded to honor the salary cap, even if it was not really in place. Since Jones and Snyder cannot come out and say that without getting the whole CBA thrown out, they kinda just had to take it. yes i think that was the point teams were told to operate a certain way but they didn't,but if I remember correctly the other owners were furious the skins and boys didn't abide by what ever agreement they put in place. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 16, 2018 13:23:01 GMT -5
definitely John mara put the smack down on them a while back got them a big fine for salary cap violations during that uncapped year before the the last collective bargaining agreement was settled. Got a couple of mentions in the rookie mini-camp write-ups. we will see I think part of the agreement was that there was no wrong doing between any of the party's as far as the memorabilia thing goes,but I would think snyder and JJ will be hunting giants when possible. |
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Post by DonnieYen on May 16, 2018 14:08:15 GMT -5
did this go official does anyone have a link to a legitimate source that says he settled out of court?
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Post by TCHOF on May 16, 2018 14:08:39 GMT -5
Got a couple of mentions in the rookie mini-camp write-ups. we will see I think part of the agreement was that there was no wrong doing between any of the party's as far as the memorabilia thing goes,but I would think snyder and JJ will be hunting giants when possible. Sorry - I actually quoted the wrong post. Still getting used to the new MB! |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 16, 2018 14:15:26 GMT -5
we will see I think part of the agreement was that there was no wrong doing between any of the party's as far as the memorabilia thing goes,but I would think snyder and JJ will be hunting giants when possible. Sorry - I actually quoted the wrong post. Still getting used to the new MB! No worries wasn't sure if I was answering the right question,yes there are some things to adjust to, it's good to see you here and all the others enjoy. |
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Post by snyder55 on May 16, 2018 15:09:53 GMT -5
money talks money also shuts people up couldn't have said it better myself |
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Post by snyder55 on May 16, 2018 15:13:12 GMT -5
I wouldn’t worry about Eli. This is how the sports memorabilia world works. The NFL has been implicit in this practice for years. I imagine they will set new rules and maybe police it closely but they will let this one die quietly so as not to have it blow back on them. Yea I read an article on this practice they're asked to produce more game worn stuff then there actually is,they actually sell the jersey's and helmets they worm up in on game day as game worn,don't know how true it is but that was in print somewhere read it a while ago when all of this first started. who gets all the profit from it.. |
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Post by GameTime on May 16, 2018 15:15:59 GMT -5
Got a couple of mentions in the rookie mini-camp write-ups. we will see I think part of the agreement was that there was no wrong doing between any of the party's as far as the memorabilia thing goes,but I would think snyder and JJ will be hunting giants when possible. Snyder is a first class jerk off. He makes Jerruah look like a saint |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 16, 2018 15:23:17 GMT -5
we will see I think part of the agreement was that there was no wrong doing between any of the party's as far as the memorabilia thing goes,but I would think snyder and JJ will be hunting giants when possible. Snyder is a first class jerk off. He makes Jerruah look like a saint +1 |
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Post by jb456 on May 16, 2018 15:39:39 GMT -5
But would the league really want to get involved in matters like this? Well they spent $4MM on deflated footballs and took Elliott all they way up to the circuit court of appeals so.............Yes I think so. Well I believe it was mentioned that the deflated footballs had something to with the integrity of the game. Tampering with the only non-wearable piece of equipment. Also, Elliot was accused of beating his girlfriend, which is a much more caustic topic. In the end, this was a civil trial with no arrest and didn't potentially affect the play on the field so I don't think anything is going to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 16:20:08 GMT -5
Teflon Eli isn't going to see ANY consequences.
A. Manning
B. Civil case not criminal.
C. Wasn't cheating
D. It's a league wide issue that the NFL will not want to draw attention to.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 16, 2018 16:28:22 GMT -5
Snyder is a first class jerk off. He makes Jerruah look like a saint +1 thats why it's fun to see little Danny's skins lose,hopefully we can get it back the way it used to be for them more losing. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 16, 2018 16:31:48 GMT -5
Yea I read an article on this practice they're asked to produce more game worn stuff then there actually is,they actually sell the jersey's and helmets they worm up in on game day as game worn,don't know how true it is but that was in print somewhere read it a while ago when all of this first started. who gets all the profit from it.. my guess is they pay the player stiener sports collectables gets there cut don't know who else gets in on it if anybody. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 16, 2018 16:35:47 GMT -5
thats why it's fun to see little Danny's skins lose,hopefully we can get it back the way it used to be for them more losing. Yeah hopefully, little Danny seems to always find a way to **** things up sooner or later... |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 16, 2018 16:41:13 GMT -5
thats why it's fun to see little Danny's skins lose,hopefully we can get it back the way it used to be for them more losing. Yeah hopefully, little Danny seems to always find a way to **** things up sooner or later... Exactly ,his quote when they won the division think the year after they got penalized for the cap violation was we got those bastards when they beat the Giants,they can't lose enough for me but I'm that way with all the NFC east teams. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 16, 2018 16:45:33 GMT -5
Yeah hopefully, little Danny seems to always find a way to **** things up sooner or later... Exactly ,his quote when they won the division think the year after they got penalized for the cap violation was we got those bastards when they beat the Giants,they can't lose enough for me but I'm that way with all the NFC east teams. For me the pecking order of hatred for our NFC rivals is: Dallas Philly Washimgton |
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Post by gumby on May 16, 2018 20:42:05 GMT -5
doh. is this going to be the first Eli thread since the inception of these new boards?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 20:48:38 GMT -5
doh. is this going to be the first Eli thread since the inception of these new boards? I believe it is. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 17, 2018 12:33:34 GMT -5
Exactly ,his quote when they won the division think the year after they got penalized for the cap violation was we got those bastards when they beat the Giants,they can't lose enough for me but I'm that way with all the NFC east teams. For me the pecking order of hatred for our NFC rivals is: Dallas Philly Washington thats about right but Philly and Dallas are very close for me they can actually be interchangeable depending on circumstance . |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 17, 2018 12:39:04 GMT -5
doh. is this going to be the first Eli thread since the inception of these new boards? I believe it is. LOL the only strange thing about it is instead of it being twenty, pages the thread is actually changing from Eli to other things,while on the old board threads that had nothing to do with Eli would end up being about him,hopefully this trend continues a lot less Eli and a lot more other Giants info and opinions. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 17, 2018 12:47:06 GMT -5
For me the pecking order of hatred for our NFC rivals is: Dallas Philly Washington thats about right but Philly and Dallas are very close for me they can actually be interchangeable depending on circumstance . Yeah probably depends on who is the better team at the time...lol |
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Post by TEM on May 17, 2018 12:51:12 GMT -5
YA insinuated this was a league wide issue. The league might be best off cleaning up their act, instead of possibly opening a can of worms. If the league were smart, they would announce a new system for this kind of thing. THEY will administer the collection. They will certify it are genuine. And of course, they take a cut for this largesse. If they were really greedy, they would eliminate the middle men and sell the memorabilia themselves. I agree with this. They could eliminate all responsibility by hiring and outside firm to certify the merchandise. |
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Post by gumby on May 17, 2018 14:45:27 GMT -5
LOL the only strange thing about it is instead of it being twenty, pages the thread is actually changing from Eli to other things,while on the old board threads that had nothing to do with Eli would end up being about him,hopefully this trend continues a lot less Eli and a lot more other Giants info and opinions. I think it's the honeymoon period. Haha. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 17, 2018 15:07:27 GMT -5
LOL the only strange thing about it is instead of it being twenty, pages the thread is actually changing from Eli to other things,while on the old board threads that had nothing to do with Eli would end up being about him,hopefully this trend continues a lot less Eli and a lot more other Giants info and opinions. I think it's the honeymoon period. Haha. lol everyone is actually being really nice you might have a point  |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 17, 2018 15:09:29 GMT -5
thats about right but Philly and Dallas are very close for me they can actually be interchangeable depending on circumstance . Yeah probably depends on who is the better team at the time...lol Exactly or more annoying. |
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Post by gmen46 on May 17, 2018 18:26:47 GMT -5
But would the league really want to get involved in matters like this? Well they spent $4MM on deflated footballs and took Elliott all they way up to the circuit court of appeals so.............Yes I think so. Assume just for the sake of argument that Eli signed 2 helmets (that's what this whole kerfuffle ultimately boils down to, apparently--2 helmets) that were not actually worn during a game he played in: 1) Does that violate an NFL rule? 2) Did it potentially affect a game or any type of competition among NFL teams? 3) Did it artificially enhance his performance in a game? If the answers to these Qs are all "no", which I'm pretty sure they are, then why on earth would the NFL let itself become involved? I could see where the Giants org. COULD decide to discipline Eli on the basis of the "conduct detrimental to the team" option that all NFL teams have (which seems very doubtful, in my opinion), but I fail to see why the league would want to touch this. It's a civil matter, not criminal, and it's been heard before a judge and settled by all parties. It should be a dead issue at this point. I also don't see owners wanting to get involved in this at all. They all have their own player peccadilloes to deal with any given year, they don't want other owners sticking their nose in their family business, so most likely they turn a blind eye on this matter. Which leaves just bitter or jealous non-Giants fans. The league clearly pays no notice of what any of us want, so it's all good for Eli on this. From now on, he just needs to focus on earning his Comeback Player of the Year award, on his way to the 2018 post season. |
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Post by GameTime on May 17, 2018 21:24:52 GMT -5
Exactly ,his quote when they won the division think the year after they got penalized for the cap violation was we got those bastards when they beat the Giants,they can't lose enough for me but I'm that way with all the NFC east teams. For me the pecking order of hatred for our NFC rivals is: Dallas Philly Washimgton Never had hatred for Washington. Dallas and Philly......pure sports hatred.!!! |
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Post by snyder55 on May 21, 2018 10:00:14 GMT -5
my question to all of this is why would Eli get involved in something like this doesn't he already have enough money, how much is enough?
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Post by TGTW92 on May 21, 2018 10:13:26 GMT -5
Exactly ,his quote when they won the division think the year after they got penalized for the cap violation was we got those bastards when they beat the Giants,they can't lose enough for me but I'm that way with all the NFC east teams. For me the pecking order of hatred for our NFC rivals is: Dallas Philly Washimgton For me it's: Philly Dallas Washington I live in PA. I can't stand it. |
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