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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 10, 2019 11:07:48 GMT -5
Obviously a huge red flag if the team wants to move on from him this quickly after moving up in the draft just last year to get him. They have the same GM, so that would make him look like an idiot for drafting Rosen in the first place. I highly doubt that this is being seriously considered. Maybe Rosen doesn't want to be there knowing it doesn't look good going forward and he said he wanted to play in the New York market and wanted to play for the Giants. Rosen one year in the NFL is better than anybody in this draft class. I guess you have to look into this especially into Rosen's medical. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 10, 2019 11:11:21 GMT -5
Pugh was out for 3/4 of their season on IR. Hardly a "Pugh" oline. A waste of 11 million per season. It's really more than that because he never plays a full season he usually misses at least 4 games. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 10, 2019 11:15:38 GMT -5
If Gettleman gets Rosen for anything less than a first round pick then he becomes a freaking genius because he would get his guy Barkley and the QB to shut fans up, for what Rosen is actually worth..... And if anyone is worried about Rosen's politics, he has not said a peep since joining the league Rosen really wanted to come here from all indications and looked like a jilted lover when as passed on him. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 10, 2019 11:18:17 GMT -5
Pugh was out for 3/4 of their season on IR. Hardly a "Pugh" oline. A waste of 11 million per season. It's really more than that because he never plays a full season he usually misses at least 4 games. We draft Hyatt from Clemson with the comp pick we got for him He becomes our eventual starter at LT at a Soldier type level for 9 years Gettleman legit becomes a genious |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 10, 2019 11:30:10 GMT -5
Obviously a huge red flag if the team wants to move on from him this quickly after moving up in the draft just last year to get him. They have the same GM, so that would make him look like an idiot for drafting Rosen in the first place. I highly doubt that this is being seriously considered. Who knows...maybe they told Kingsbury he can get the QB of his choosing. He said in October that he would take Murray #1 overall if he was an NFL coach and he could. Well now he has that chance. I suppose and I guess anything is possible, but do you really think that the GM had to make that kind of concession to hire Kingsbury? |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 10, 2019 11:32:50 GMT -5
if the Giants did bring Rosen in here then that would eliminate keeping Eli to mentor him since Rosen has already has a year of NFL experience...
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Post by gumby on Jan 10, 2019 11:44:25 GMT -5
If Gettleman gets Rosen for anything less than a first round pick then he becomes a freaking genius because he would get his guy Barkley and the QB to shut fans up, for what Rosen is actually worth..... And if anyone is worried about Rosen's politics, he has not said a peep since joining the league This. But I doubt it happens. About bringing in Rosen vs Drafting Haskins or whatever, not sure how I feel. I we didn't trade back last year, the QB i would settle with was Rosen. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 10, 2019 11:45:40 GMT -5
A waste of 11 million per season. It's really more than that because he never plays a full season he usually misses at least 4 games. We draft Hyatt from Clemson with the comp pick we got for him He becomes our eventual starter at LT at a Soldier type level for 9 years Gettleman legit becomes a genious DG this could possible he drafted turner in the 4thor 3rd got the RT tackle were all wanting in the 4th and Norwell undrafted free agent that 2 prowlers and on all pro picked up ho higher then a 3 rd round pick. |
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Post by nyg9289 on Jan 10, 2019 11:49:38 GMT -5
Who knows...maybe they told Kingsbury he can get the QB of his choosing. He said in October that he would take Murray #1 overall if he was an NFL coach and he could. Well now he has that chance. I suppose and I guess anything is possible, but do you really think that the GM had to make that kind of concession to hire Kingsbury? Probably not - but I'm sure they discussed what path they'd like to go down with the #1 pick and no idea where that conversation tailed off to. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 10, 2019 11:51:24 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Rosen, came off as a pompous *******
Also, the NY media and fans would eat him alive. Let him fizzle out in the desert.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 10, 2019 11:54:44 GMT -5
Schefter is an annoying cockroach. He is throwing shit on the wall and hoping that it sticks. There is absolutely no chance in hell of this happening. When was the last time ANY team drafted QBs with their first picks in back to back drafts? I will take my answer off the air. Money here billy #1Murrey ain't mayfield he's really small 5-9 maybe 5-10 195 he will be running for his life just to find throwing lanes, if someone takes him I think it will be later in round 1 or top of 2 as you said the Cards aren't gonna do dumb things so a team like the Giants or anyone else can benefit, then again they did pay pugh like one of the top guards in the league. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 10, 2019 11:57:12 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Rosen, came off as a pompous ******* Also, the NY media and fans would eat him alive. Let him fizzle out in the desert. You gotta have alligator skin to play in NY plus as I have said before he missed time every year in college gets tougher in the NFL. |
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Post by SG88 on Jan 10, 2019 11:58:22 GMT -5
Pugh was out for 3/4 of their season on IR. Hardly a "Pugh" oline. when Pugh was healthy the first half of the season he was grading in Omameh territory maybe the learning curve new offense and all, their OL stunk before they had the injury's the kid didn't have much of a chance. It depends on what position he was graded at. I'm not saying that he is was an all pro. I am saying that he was average. The giants used him all over the oline. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 10, 2019 12:00:53 GMT -5
when Pugh was healthy the first half of the season he was grading in Omameh territory maybe the learning curve new offense and all, their OL stunk before they had the injury's the kid didn't have much of a chance. It depends on what position he was graded at. I'm not saying that he is was an all pro. I am saying that he was average. The giants used him all over the oline. Actually the Cowboys were set to take him the spot above us and we "stole" him and ended up trading back,then we all pointed and laughed when it was thought at the time they catastrophically reached on Frederick. *cue the Price is Right failure theme* |
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Post by ocgiant on Jan 10, 2019 12:23:34 GMT -5
A new coach gets married to his QB maybe for his coaching career so that needs to be determined by the new AZ coach... if Rosen becomes available grab him.... got his rookie year out of the way... Shurmur I believe would work well with him... Rosen has the potential and something to prove... smart and has an arm... huge numbers at UCLA...yes AZ was horrible this year can't put that on him his rookie season... so that is a very interesting scenario ...if true... for the Giants to consider...
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Post by ocgiant on Jan 10, 2019 12:25:12 GMT -5
if the Giants did bring Rosen in here then that would eliminate keeping Eli to mentor him since Rosen has already has a year of NFL experience... Rosen is a smart QB... NFL arm ready... throws a nice ball... working with Shurmur ideal! |
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Post by jmike on Jan 10, 2019 12:57:33 GMT -5
It is also possible, if they really like the kid, they could draft Bosa #1 and if Murray is still there at the Giants pick, trade Rosen for the 6th pick. Rough rookie season aside, a lot of people liked Rosen for the Giants last year.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 10, 2019 13:12:34 GMT -5
when Pugh was healthy the first half of the season he was grading in Omameh territory maybe the learning curve new offense and all, their OL stunk before they had the injury's the kid didn't have much of a chance. It depends on what position he was graded at. I'm not saying that he is was an all pro. I am saying that he was average. The giants used him all over the oline. with us here he played left guard 80% of the time and was decent there ,he was drafted as a left tackle but did start his transition to the NFL at right tackle where he was decent but struggled with power and speed, not that I didn't like him as a player just not as a 45 mill dollar player,Hernandez as a rookie is better then Pugh ever was, they did move him around early but he settled at LG. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 10, 2019 13:19:03 GMT -5
It is also possible, if they really like the kid, they could draft Bosa #1 and if Murray is still there at the Giants pick, trade Rosen for the 6th pick. Rough rookie season aside, a lot of people liked Rosen for the Giants last year. think this would be the smart play if you really think a 5'10" 195 pound QB could survive, he will have run just to find throwing lanes, think he will be there at six, might even be there at 16 or 26 mayfield looks big compared to this kid his frame is small. |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 10, 2019 13:21:39 GMT -5
if the Giants did bring Rosen in here then that would eliminate keeping Eli to mentor him since Rosen has already has a year of NFL experience... You're kidding ,right? not at all.... |
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Post by boxcarwillie on Jan 10, 2019 13:22:58 GMT -5
Schefter is an annoying cockroach. He is throwing shit on the wall and hoping that it sticks. There is absolutely no chance in hell of this happening. When was the last time ANY team drafted QBs with their first picks in back to back drafts? I will take my answer off the air. Can one really take the fact that something has not happened before as absolute proof that it could never happen? |
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Post by Morehead State on Jan 10, 2019 13:23:53 GMT -5
I'll say it again ,why the hell would you trade for Rosen,what has he showed anyone to warrant that??? No. He showed more than Jared Goff, Mitch Trubisky or Eli Manning did as a rookie.
I do have concerns in that he's not that mobile. he looks like Michael Vick compared to Eli, but i would like someone who can move a bit more. So I would say not for the 6th pick. But a 2nd and a 3rd?....Maybe. The kid is a natural passer.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 10, 2019 13:37:10 GMT -5
It depends on what position he was graded at. I'm not saying that he is was an all pro. I am saying that he was average. The giants used him all over the oline. Actually the Cowboys were set to take him the spot above us and we "stole" him and ended up trading back,then we all pointed and laughed when it was thought at the time they catastrophically reached on Frederick. *cue the Price is Right failure theme* Tell you one thing for all the stupid JJ brought on them his kid reversed it probably by tying JJ up and gaging him the week before the draft, they have put together a young talented roster hate it , their D is pretty much 26 and younger, their offense has a little age on it but they are already starting to restock the OL Connor Williams pick ,can't stand them but have to give credit where credit is due, the salary cap will force them to make tough choices. |
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 10, 2019 13:42:58 GMT -5
I'll say it again ,why the hell would you trade for Rosen,what has he showed anyone to warrant that??? No. He showed more than Jared Goff, Mitch Trubisky or Eli Manning did as a rookie.
I do have concerns in that he's not that mobile. he looks like Michael Vick compared to Eli, but i would like someone who can move a bit more. So I would say not for the 6th pick. But a 2nd and a 3rd?....Maybe. The kid is a natural passer.
You would trade a 2nd AND a 3rd for him? I wasn't clear. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 10, 2019 13:45:35 GMT -5
Obviously a huge red flag if the team wants to move on from him this quickly after moving up in the draft just last year to get him. They have the same GM, so that would make him look like an idiot for drafting Rosen in the first place. I highly doubt that this is being seriously considered. Maybe Rosen doesn't want to be there knowing it doesn't look good going forward and he said he wanted to play in the New York market and wanted to play for the Giants. Rosen one year in the NFL is better than anybody in this draft class. I guess you have to look into this especially into Rosen's medical. So he doesnt want to play out west and whines and pouts himself to be a NYG? Who would do that? Lol |
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Post by gumby on Jan 10, 2019 14:04:30 GMT -5
I'll say it again ,why the hell would you trade for Rosen,what has he showed anyone to warrant that??? No. He showed more than Jared Goff, Mitch Trubisky or Eli Manning did as a rookie.
I do have concerns in that he's not that mobile. he looks like Michael Vick compared to Eli, but i would like someone who can move a bit more. So I would say not for the 6th pick. But a 2nd and a 3rd?....Maybe. The kid is a natural passer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 14:05:48 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 10, 2019 14:22:25 GMT -5
Of course it is. People are just playing on the Jump To Conclusions mat.
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Post by jmike on Jan 10, 2019 14:39:47 GMT -5
I'll say it again ,why the hell would you trade for Rosen,what has he showed anyone to warrant that??? No. He showed more than Jared Goff, Mitch Trubisky or Eli Manning did as a rookie.
I do have concerns in that he's not that mobile. he looks like Michael Vick compared to Eli, but i would like someone who can move a bit more. So I would say not for the 6th pick. But a 2nd and a 3rd?....Maybe. The kid is a natural passer.
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