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Post by Jaydub on Dec 13, 2019 18:41:31 GMT -5
Oh, ok. Well I'm entertained See, it s entertaining. By the way, I still stand by the third statement. It is true and will be more than apparent in the coming seasons. Vastly improved? You stand by vastly improved? Give me some of what you’re smoking, I want to be stupid too
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 19:29:39 GMT -5
Yes, great entertainment this time of year when your team has no hope. Oh, ok. Well I'm entertained The article seems very logical, but the Giants are NOT taking any of these QBs at No. 6 or moving up to get one. To think the Cards would trade a QB they drafted last year with the 10th pick is delusional. Well, that would make you wrong. He has vastly improved the team at a much lower cost going into the future.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 19:32:05 GMT -5
Oh, ok. Well I'm entertained See, it s entertaining. By the way, I still stand by the third statement. It is true and will be more than apparent in the coming seasons. You got toasted. Leave it alone.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 19:35:07 GMT -5
Add to the list: Not trading Jenkins at the deadline, when it was clear as day the right move to make, and now cutting him. Gentleclown is making it very very hard to rebuild... Do you think Cleveland would even get a 1st rounder for him now? He always injured and a headcase. As bad as the Giants are, they made out in that trade... Jenkins? ..... I think you quoted the wrong post. Odell? No. Not at all. At the time we traded him? Yes, we should have done better IMO.
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Post by southerner on Dec 14, 2019 12:17:26 GMT -5
See, it s entertaining. By the way, I still stand by the third statement. It is true and will be more than apparent in the coming seasons. You got toasted. Leave it alone. Toasted never...number 3 is correct and the other two...not so much. Now your predictions.....well, they speak for themselves.
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Post by TEM on Dec 14, 2019 12:18:26 GMT -5
How about we fire everyone every 2 years. Because that has always worked out in the teams favor.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 29, 2019 21:47:11 GMT -5
How about we fire everyone every 2 years. Because that has always worked out in the teams favor. But it's time.
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Post by southerner on Dec 30, 2019 6:04:16 GMT -5
Best part of this original thread is that Slayton did much better than OBJ which makes the entire basis of this thread nonsense.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2019 7:47:47 GMT -5
Best part of this original thread is that Slayton did much better than OBJ which makes the entire basis of this thread nonsense. Nearly everything you posted in this thread was wrong... lol And Gettleman still should be fired. He should be fired for giving away our 3rd round pick for nothing alone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 7:53:16 GMT -5
Best part of this original thread is that Slayton did much better than OBJ which makes the entire basis of this thread nonsense. Are you making these incorrect statements on purpose??
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 30, 2019 8:58:20 GMT -5
Best part of this original thread is that Slayton did much better than OBJ which makes the entire basis of this thread nonsense. Are you making these incorrect statements on purpose?? His sick narrative Quack quack
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2019 10:05:08 GMT -5
Boo this man!
Mara is clueless.
I did hear on the radio though that Gettleman might lose some responsibility with the team. Restricting him from certain functions. Not sure of the details however.
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Post by leonperry on Dec 30, 2019 10:16:50 GMT -5
Best part of this original thread is that Slayton did much better than OBJ which makes the entire basis of this thread nonsense. Nearly everything you posted in this thread was wrong... lol And Gettleman still should be fired. He should be fired for giving away our 3rd round pick for nothing alone. from what I understand from other threads, Williams can be tagged, meaning if they do that then at least 1 1/2 yrs of this guy. Another year is an eternity in the NFL, that alone recoups some value for the picks plus gives leverage in negotiations for a new contract. If he walks out the door now then while I wouldn't say get fired for that alone, he should be on thin ice after that
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 30, 2019 10:21:27 GMT -5
Boo this man! Mara is clueless. I did hear on the radio though that Gettleman might lose some responsibility with the team. Restricting him from certain functions. Not sure of the details however. I wouldn’t trust him in free agency but I’m ok with his drafting if it’s actually his evaluation and not Mark Koncz doing the real talent scouting. This is just another half ass measure by not wiping the slate clean and having your HC and GM on the same page.
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Post by cdngfan on Dec 30, 2019 10:28:16 GMT -5
Boo this man! Mara is clueless. I did hear on the radio though that Gettleman might lose some responsibility with the team. Restricting him from certain functions. Not sure of the details however. they're probably not going to let him spend the cap space wad. He's a walking wounded GM, what would a walking wounded GM do with that much cap space? Play it smart knowing you're not one year away from being a contender, or throw the future on the fire to win as many games as you can in 2020? whats interesting is Gettleman agreeing to terms of any kind. The trouble with limiting GMs from making the decisions they want is you're now evaluating them based on things that are outside of their control. Trust them or don't trust them. I hate this half pregnant stuff. If i was Gettleman i'd prefer to be fired than to get training wheels put on.
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Post by roundabout on Dec 30, 2019 11:00:29 GMT -5
Nearly everything you posted in this thread was wrong... lol And Gettleman still should be fired. He should be fired for giving away our 3rd round pick for nothing alone. from what I understand from other threads, Williams can be tagged, meaning if they do that then at least 1 1/2 yrs of this guy. Another year is an eternity in the NFL, that alone recoups some value for the picks plus gives leverage in negotiations for a new contract. If he walks out the door now then while I wouldn't say get fired for that alone, he should be on thin ice after that I'm sure he's on thin ice as of right now
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Post by gumby on Dec 30, 2019 11:04:46 GMT -5
Nearly everything you posted in this thread was wrong... lol And Gettleman still should be fired. He should be fired for giving away our 3rd round pick for nothing alone. from what I understand from other threads, Williams can be tagged, meaning if they do that then at least 1 1/2 yrs of this guy. Another year is an eternity in the NFL, that alone recoups some value for the picks plus gives leverage in negotiations for a new contract. If he walks out the door now then while I wouldn't say get fired for that alone, he should be on thin ice after that That Williams trade is exactly what bad teams do. That was an awful awful trade. We're not exactly 1 piece away from being a contender lol. Giving a way picks???!!!
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 30, 2019 11:09:26 GMT -5
Boo this man! Mara is clueless. I did hear on the radio though that Gettleman might lose some responsibility with the team. Restricting him from certain functions. Not sure of the details however. they're probably not going to let him spend the cap space wad. He's a walking wounded GM, what would a walking wounded GM do with that much cap space? Play it smart knowing you're not one year away from being a contender, or throw the future on the fire to win as many games as you can in 2020? whats interesting is Gettleman agreeing to terms of any kind. The trouble with limiting GMs from making the decisions they want is you're now evaluating them based on things that are outside of their control. Trust them or don't trust them. I hate this half pregnant stuff. If i was Gettleman i'd prefer to be fired than to get training wheels put on. I highly doubt DG will be restricted in any way. They would have just fired him if they werent happy with some aspect of his work, and both Mara and Tisch released strong statements of support for him.
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 30, 2019 11:10:40 GMT -5
from what I understand from other threads, Williams can be tagged, meaning if they do that then at least 1 1/2 yrs of this guy. Another year is an eternity in the NFL, that alone recoups some value for the picks plus gives leverage in negotiations for a new contract. If he walks out the door now then while I wouldn't say get fired for that alone, he should be on thin ice after that That Williams trade is exactly what bad teams do. That was an awful awful trade. We're not exactly 1 piece away from being a contender lol. Giving a way picks???!!! My second thought on hearing that DG was being retained is that the Williams deal is a lot closer to being signed than we know.
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Post by DJones19 on Dec 30, 2019 11:10:45 GMT -5
Boo this man! Mara is clueless. I did hear on the radio though that Gettleman might lose some responsibility with the team. Restricting him from certain functions. Not sure of the details however. I choose to laugh at this point. Mara and Gettleman really do seem clueless as to what it takes to build a winner in 2020.
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Post by cdngfan on Dec 30, 2019 11:14:15 GMT -5
they're probably not going to let him spend the cap space wad. He's a walking wounded GM, what would a walking wounded GM do with that much cap space? Play it smart knowing you're not one year away from being a contender, or throw the future on the fire to win as many games as you can in 2020? whats interesting is Gettleman agreeing to terms of any kind. The trouble with limiting GMs from making the decisions they want is you're now evaluating them based on things that are outside of their control. Trust them or don't trust them. I hate this half pregnant stuff. If i was Gettleman i'd prefer to be fired than to get training wheels put on. I highly doubt DG will be restricted in any way. They would have just fired him if they werent happy with some aspect of his work, and both Mara and Tisch released strong statements of support for him. I think restricting him would be stupid, but we'll see if that rumour is true. The public statements of support don't really mean anything to me. You say things as an organization to bring down the media temperature to the best of your ability ("Eli is our starter, we're happy if Jones sits for multiple seasons"). Its the smart thing to do.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2019 11:19:58 GMT -5
That Williams trade is exactly what bad teams do. That was an awful awful trade. We're not exactly 1 piece away from being a contender lol. Giving a way picks???!!! My second thought on hearing that DG was being retained is that the Williams deal is a lot closer to being signed than we know. It better be for his sake. And it better not be an astronomical amount. Like, record setting.
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 30, 2019 11:38:01 GMT -5
My second thought on hearing that DG was being retained is that the Williams deal is a lot closer to being signed than we know. It better be for his sake. And it better not be an astronomical amount. Like, record setting. A 3rd round pick is not a small thing, so I would be shocked if Mara was just letting that loss fly.
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Post by southerner on Dec 30, 2019 11:39:23 GMT -5
Best part of this original thread is that Slayton did much better than OBJ which makes the entire basis of this thread nonsense. Nearly everything you posted in this thread was wrong... lol And Gettleman still should be fired. He should be fired for giving away our 3rd round pick for nothing alone. Actually everything I said was exactly right....and your thought on Gettleman....Wrong again. Keep trying though.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2019 11:42:32 GMT -5
Nearly everything you posted in this thread was wrong... lol And Gettleman still should be fired. He should be fired for giving away our 3rd round pick for nothing alone. Actually everything I said was exactly right....and your thought on Gettleman....Wrong again. Keep trying though. Yes, great entertainment this time of year when your team has no hope. Oh, ok. Well I'm entertained The article seems very logical, but the Giants are NOT taking any of these QBs at No. 6 or moving up to get one. To think the Cards would trade a QB they drafted last year with the 10th pick is delusional. Well, that would make you wrong. He has vastly improved the team at a much lower cost going into the future.
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Post by southerner on Dec 30, 2019 12:09:11 GMT -5
So funny, enjoy this thread and the initials rants against Gettleman back in March....now his moves look genius. Gettleman gets a King’s ransom for OBJ, then drafts a WR in the 5th round who outperforms Odell, plus he isn’t hurt every week like Odell. Hard to understand why anybody would want Gettleman fired.....thankfully it is very clear Mara and Tisch want him around for as long as he is willing...Unlike many on this message board they know how well Gettleman has done.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 30, 2019 12:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by nygfanstrick on Dec 30, 2019 12:15:26 GMT -5
Mara is a bigger f***ing disaster than I feared for pulling this predictable move again. Canning HC while keeping an incompetent GM only to fire the GM and mismatch them with HC or can the coach to fit their needs.... absolute travesty
They have to be a package deal.... Gettleman, Shurmur, Bettcher, and Hal Hunter should have all gotten canned if not more.
I have no faith in this team at the moment and I’m legitimately unable to decide which team I’m more optimistic about the Knicks or Giants because they’re both pathetically run with no sign of change
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 12:15:32 GMT -5
So funny, enjoy this thread and the initials rants against Gettleman back in March....now his moves look genius. Gettleman gets a King’s ransom for OBJ, then drafts a WR in the 5th round who outperforms Odell, plus he isn’t hurt every week like Odell. Hard to understand why anybody would want Gettleman fired.....thankfully it is very clear Mara and Tisch want him around for as long as he is willing...Unlike many on this message board they know how well Gettleman has done. Pretty sure Slayton was hurt more than Odell this year. Besides TDs Odell had the better year so there are basic facts and the things you are incorrectly stating..
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Post by repeatchamps on Dec 30, 2019 12:17:15 GMT -5
Boo this man! Mara is clueless. I did hear on the radio though that Gettleman might lose some responsibility with the team. Restricting him from certain functions. Not sure of the details however. Cough "Belichick" Cough
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