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Post by TEM on Jun 15, 2019 19:49:14 GMT -5
I am pulling for him to make it in the XFL. Realistically no one is going to sign a 31 year old receiver with a history of leg problems to the NFL even if he makes a splash in the other league. Hey at least he is getting paid to play football. A very small % of the population can make that claim.. Believe me I want him to be successful in the XFL. For him to put on an NFL uniform again. At his age and injury history . I do not see it happening.
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Post by TEM on Jun 15, 2019 19:53:09 GMT -5
Most people go broke because the spend 9 cents of every dime they earn.
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Post by SG88 on Jun 15, 2019 21:29:02 GMT -5
Are you talking strictly former NFL players? If so, how about Carl Weathers, Fred Dryer, Bill Goldberg, and Terry Crews to name a few? The Rock I dont think that he ever made the NFL. He did make the CFL I think
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Post by SG88 on Jun 15, 2019 21:30:29 GMT -5
Are you talking strictly former NFL players? If so, how about Carl Weathers, Fred Dryer, Bill Goldberg, and Terry Crews to name a few? Fred Dryer had a very good career in the NFL.
He "made" it.
Played 13 seasons.
Pro Bowl (1975) First-team All-Pro (1974) Second-team All-Pro (1975) 2× First-team All-NFC (1974, 1975) 2× Second-team All-NFC (1970, 1973) NFL All-Rookie team (1969)
More importantly, he starred on Hunter 🙂
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 15, 2019 21:35:34 GMT -5
Hakeem Nicks career earnings: $6.6 million. If he was wise with his money he should be set for life. Don't feel sorry for him about money. What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years?
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Post by Waybackfan on Jun 16, 2019 8:07:16 GMT -5
Most people go broke because the spend 9 cents of every dime they earn. More like 11 cents of every dime they earn.
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Post by Waybackfan on Jun 16, 2019 8:08:34 GMT -5
Fred Dryer had a very good career in the NFL.
He "made" it.
Played 13 seasons.
Pro Bowl (1975) First-team All-Pro (1974) Second-team All-Pro (1975) 2× First-team All-NFC (1974, 1975) 2× Second-team All-NFC (1970, 1973) NFL All-Rookie team (1969)
I want to clarify what I am talking about here. I read your link and I totally disagree with it, the numbers in the link don't add up. Roughly 2240 players in the NFL when you add in practice squad players . Very few players make the big money,yes, it's more than the average Joe but again as someone else said the average career is 3 years. I can not believe and do not believe that all but 450 (ball park figure) blow their money ....some aren't making enough money to blow . Agents,taxes as someone else said is not blowing the money it's the cost of doing business. You're entitled to believe whatever you want. It's ok.
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Post by Waybackfan on Jun 16, 2019 8:09:52 GMT -5
Hakeem Nicks career earnings: $6.6 million. If he was wise with his money he should be set for life. Don't feel sorry for him about money. What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years? Depends on how much you spend I suppose.
Any shortage could be made up by working as a greeter at WalMart.
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Post by magilla on Jun 16, 2019 8:11:39 GMT -5
Hakeem Nicks career earnings: $6.6 million. If he was wise with his money he should be set for life. Don't feel sorry for him about money. What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years? Hakeem Nicks will also get NFL pension.
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Post by Nite on Jun 16, 2019 8:33:33 GMT -5
What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years? Depends on how much you spend I suppose.
Any shortage could be made up by working as a greeter at WalMart.
Or a starbucks barrista
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Post by Nite on Jun 16, 2019 8:35:10 GMT -5
I want to clarify what I am talking about here. I read your link and I totally disagree with it, the numbers in the link don't add up. Roughly 2240 players in the NFL when you add in practice squad players . Very few players make the big money,yes, it's more than the average Joe but again as someone else said the average career is 3 years. I can not believe and do not believe that all but 450 (ball park figure) blow their money ....some aren't making enough money to blow . Agents,taxes as someone else said is not blowing the money it's the cost of doing business. You're entitled to believe whatever you want. It's ok. Belief denies reality for many...
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Post by Nite on Jun 16, 2019 8:39:36 GMT -5
Hakeem Nicks career earnings: $6.6 million. If he was wise with his money he should be set for life. Don't feel sorry for him about money. What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years? Think about it this way; He compressed 40-50 years of earnings into a few. The rest of his earnings life is gravy..
Unless he did stupid shit with his money
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Post by Delicreep on Jun 16, 2019 9:48:22 GMT -5
What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years? Think about it this way; He compressed 40-50 years of earnings into a few. The rest of his earnings life is gravy..
Unless he did stupid shit with his money Here's the catch: he has to know that the money train stops when he makes that 6.6 million and that no more is coming. Financial planning like that is relatively easy, but only if you know you have to plan that way.
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Post by Nite on Jun 16, 2019 9:57:58 GMT -5
Think about it this way; He compressed 40-50 years of earnings into a few. The rest of his earnings life is gravy..
Unless he did stupid shit with his money Here's the catch: he has to know that the money train stops when he makes that 6.6 million and that no more is coming. Financial planning like that is relatively easy, but only if you know you have to plan that way. The average pro-football lifespan is like 3.5 years. Planning should start before one signs his 1st contract.. I think there was a RB a few years ago for the Redskins who was still driving a 10 yr old car well into his 4th year or so....smart dude ..
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Post by Delicreep on Jun 16, 2019 10:00:06 GMT -5
Here's the catch: he has to know that the money train stops when he makes that 6.6 million and that no more is coming. Financial planning like that is relatively easy, but only if you know you have to plan that way. The average pro-football lifespan is like 3.5 years. Planning should start before one signs his 1st contract.. I think there was a RB a few years ago for the Redskins who was still driving a 10 yr old car well into his 4th year or so....smart dude .. I'm not saying it can't be done, but no 20 year old sees his mortality 3 years down the line.
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Post by SG88 on Jun 16, 2019 10:19:26 GMT -5
Here's the catch: he has to know that the money train stops when he makes that 6.6 million and that no more is coming. Financial planning like that is relatively easy, but only if you know you have to plan that way. The average pro-football lifespan is like 3.5 years. Planning should start before one signs his 1st contract.. I think there was a RB a few years ago for the Redskins who was still driving a 10 yr old car well into his 4th year or so....smart dude .. It was Alfred Morris. Financial planning is easy, but financial management can be difficult, considering the discipline it takes to stick with the plan.
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 16, 2019 11:26:13 GMT -5
What did he take home after taxes and agent commissions? Is that enough to live on for 60 years? Hakeem Nicks will also get NFL pension. At what age?
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 16, 2019 11:28:33 GMT -5
Think about it this way; He compressed 40-50 years of earnings into a few. The rest of his earnings life is gravy..
Unless he did stupid shit with his money Here's the catch: he has to know that the money train stops when he makes that 6.6 million and that no more is coming. Financial planning like that is relatively easy, but only if you know you have to plan that way. True. He was probably expecting that he would get that second huge deal ....
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Post by Waybackfan on Jun 16, 2019 16:18:30 GMT -5
The NFL should hire Morris after he retires to counsel players about money.
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Post by magilla on Jun 16, 2019 18:09:00 GMT -5
Hakeem Nicks will also get NFL pension. At what age? 55 is the age NFL Pension is given.
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Post by piddy283 on Jun 16, 2019 18:47:26 GMT -5
Nicks was always one of my favorites. He's who I wanted going into the draft that year, and when we got him I went nuts. I actually still wear his jersey on Sundays.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jun 17, 2019 8:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by fifthavephil on Jun 17, 2019 9:31:30 GMT -5
He said he and Eli were ( recently) practicing together XFL, could be Eli next calling.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 17, 2019 9:53:38 GMT -5
Hakeem Nicks career earnings: $6.6 million. If he was wise with his money he should be set for life. Don't feel sorry for him about money. Oh for sure but he never got that BIG Cruz or OBJ money Cruz almost didnt get the BIG Cruz money. It's all about timing. He was lucky to be an UDFA and get his big deal earlier than a 1st round pick. If he was drafted in the 7th round, he would of had a rookie contract and never saw the BIG money due to his injury.
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Post by magilla on Jun 17, 2019 11:44:13 GMT -5
Oh for sure but he never got that BIG Cruz or OBJ money Cruz almost didnt get the BIG Cruz money. It's all about timing. He was lucky to be an UDFA and get his big deal earlier than a 1st round pick. If he was drafted in the 7th round, he would of had a rookie contract and never saw the BIG money due to his injury. Victor was smart in that he pushed for more upfront guaranteed money by agreeing to a contract less than some thought he could get. Worked out fine for him. Victor received 15.6 million guaranteed.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jun 17, 2019 11:52:55 GMT -5
The majority of NFL players make less than 1mil a season, and a lot of those guys are out of the league in only a couple of years.
Nicks likely is financially stable. But, I can easily see a guy that was only in the league for two years, making 800K each season go broke after a few years.
Firstly, after taxes, they are likely only taking home about 1 million out of that 1.6 mill they made in that two years. Still a lot of money. But, then they have to pay their agents, trainers and financial advisers and none of that stuff is cheap. Then there's whatever money they borrowed to pay for them to go through the drafting process, like travel, room and board for the combine, setting up meetings with teams and execs. In the end, at the end of those two years that player probably has about 700K left over.
Again, good money, certainly a great kick-off to your life. But, even living fairly modestly, not enough to retire on when you're still in your mid-20's and you've spent so much of your time and energy learning football, there's not too much else out there that you know when it comes time to get a job outside of sports.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 17, 2019 11:54:38 GMT -5
Cruz almost didnt get the BIG Cruz money. It's all about timing. He was lucky to be an UDFA and get his big deal earlier than a 1st round pick. If he was drafted in the 7th round, he would of had a rookie contract and never saw the BIG money due to his injury. Victor was smart in that he pushed for more upfront guaranteed money by agreeing to a contract less than some thought he could get. Worked out fine for him. He did. Although judging from the numbers that were being thrown around here at the time folks clearly had no idea what his actual market value was. As I recall he signed for market. I don't recall thinking there was any meaningful discount but the fact that he got much of it guaranteed was certainly a huge benefit to him.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jun 17, 2019 11:58:58 GMT -5
Always liked Nicks, he and Cruz should have given this team stability at WR for a decade. Injuries freaking suck. I hope he makes it.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 17, 2019 12:16:11 GMT -5
Always liked Nicks, he and Cruz should have given this team stability at WR for a decade. Injuries freaking suck. I hope he makes it. Eli and his medicine balls... lol
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 17, 2019 12:22:45 GMT -5
Always liked Nicks, he and Cruz should have given this team stability at WR for a decade. Injuries freaking suck. I hope he makes it. Eli and his medicine balls... lol Exactly. Manning doesn't get the credit he deserves for saving the organization so much money on their ill conceived signings. The guy deserves a raise. And an extension. And a no trade clause.
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