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Post by Deplorable on Jun 20, 2019 14:46:59 GMT -5
May I 2nd this. Perhaps Henry Aaron instead of Jackie. And me as a kid as a die hard Dodger fan suggesting that Jackie's out. I should be whipped. I still follow the Dodgers and always have even though I switched my allegiance to the Mets. Can't help myself. But Koufax is my all time favorite, even over "The Duke". (who I met in person)
Mike Trout is a reincarnation of Mickey Mantle before he hurt his knees. The sky is the limit with Trout.
I agree that Trout is an all-time great. But I don't think he quite has Mantle's power. And he's probably not as good a switch-bunter.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 20, 2019 16:51:59 GMT -5
May I 2nd this. Perhaps Henry Aaron instead of Jackie. And me as a kid as a die hard Dodger fan suggesting that Jackie's out. I should be whipped. I still follow the Dodgers and always have even though I switched my allegiance to the Mets. Can't help myself. But Koufax is my all time favorite, even over "The Duke". (who I met in person)
Mike Trout is a reincarnation of Mickey Mantle before he hurt his knees. The sky is the limit with Trout.
The Duke was my favorite player, barely edging out Pee Wee. ( Do you remember the night Duke hit three homers and barely missed the fourth when his high line drive hit the 40'-high right field fence about a foot from the top?).
I included Jackie over some other very worthy candidates (e.g. Teddy Ballgame, Joe D., Hammerin' Hank, Campy, etc.) for a couple of reasons.
First of all, he indeed was 'The First', and oftentimes in his early years he had to literally fight for his rights. He made it a lot easier for the guys who came after him. He singlehandedly made the game better.
Secondly, I never saw anyone who could take over a game the way he could, both with his bat and his base-running. When he got on first, he would dance and feint repeatedly, daring a throw and driving the pitcher to near-distraction. Around 1952 or so, WOR-TV devised a special technique to feature Jackie's antics. They were able to selectively overlay a view of first base along with coverage of the pitcher (as far as I know, the first time such camerawork had been attempted). Jackie was the reason for the development of a new video technique! I agree with everything you said. I love and loved Jackie Robinson. And this is just for me but it's true. I read it in Jackie's biography. The first time Jackie ever stole home was June 24th, 1947. That's the day I was born. Growing up playing stick ball in Queens when I batted right handed I held the bat high just like Jackie did. Me and my dad used to watch the Dodger games at night till I had to go to bed.
I remember reading about Snider just missing 4 homers. Did he ever do it ? Maybe I'm thinking of that night but for some reason I thought he did it. Maybe I just wanted him to do it so it's wishful thinking. The very first game I ever went to was Ebbetts Field vs the Cubs. And our idol Duke Snider hit a home run that game. And some Cub named Ernie Banks also hit one. I was mad cause I wanted to watch Maglie or Newcombe pitch. Instead we got some rookie named Drysdale. Dodgers won 7-5.
It was so colorful and exciting for me. My dad bought me a hot dog and coke and I am so thankful to him for bringing me that day. Boy I loved those Dodger teams.
I met Duke Snider years later and told him that story and he thanked me for rooting for him.
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Post by Deplorable on Jun 20, 2019 18:38:27 GMT -5
The Duke was my favorite player, barely edging out Pee Wee. ( Do you remember the night Duke hit three homers and barely missed the fourth when his high line drive hit the 40'-high right field fence about a foot from the top?).
I included Jackie over some other very worthy candidates (e.g. Teddy Ballgame, Joe D., Hammerin' Hank, Campy, etc.) for a couple of reasons.
First of all, he indeed was 'The First', and oftentimes in his early years he had to literally fight for his rights. He made it a lot easier for the guys who came after him. He singlehandedly made the game better.
Secondly, I never saw anyone who could take over a game the way he could, both with his bat and his base-running. When he got on first, he would dance and feint repeatedly, daring a throw and driving the pitcher to near-distraction. Around 1952 or so, WOR-TV devised a special technique to feature Jackie's antics. They were able to selectively overlay a view of first base along with coverage of the pitcher (as far as I know, the first time such camerawork had been attempted). Jackie was the reason for the development of a new video technique! I agree with everything you said. I love and loved Jackie Robinson. And this is just for me but it's true. I read it in Jackie's biography. The first time Jackie ever stole home was June 24th, 1947. That's the day I was born. Growing up playing stick ball in Queens when I batted right handed I held the bat high just like Jackie did. Me and my dad used to watch the Dodger games at night till I had to go to bed.
I remember reading about Snider just missing 4 homers. Did he ever do it ? Maybe I'm thinking of that night but for some reason I thought he did it. Maybe I just wanted him to do it so it's wishful thinking. The very first game I ever went to was Ebbetts Field vs the Cubs. And our idol Duke Snider hit a home run that game. And some Cub named Ernie Banks also hit one. I was mad cause I wanted to watch Maglie or Newcombe pitch. Instead we got some rookie named Drysdale. Dodgers won 7-5.
It was so colorful and exciting for me. My dad bought me a hot dog and coke and I am so thankful to him for bringing me that day. Boy I loved those Dodger teams.
I met Duke Snider years later and told him that story and he thanked me for rooting for him.
Duke never hit 4 HR in a game. As far as I remember, the only Dodger of that era to hit 4 was Gil Hodges, who did it one night in Forbes Field, some time in 1951 or thereabouts. I remember listening to Red Barber smoothly calling Gil's last time at bat: "Hodges looking for his fourth HR. He swings [slight pause], and he's got it!"
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 21, 2019 20:04:13 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said. I love and loved Jackie Robinson. And this is just for me but it's true. I read it in Jackie's biography. The first time Jackie ever stole home was June 24th, 1947. That's the day I was born. Growing up playing stick ball in Queens when I batted right handed I held the bat high just like Jackie did. Me and my dad used to watch the Dodger games at night till I had to go to bed.
I remember reading about Snider just missing 4 homers. Did he ever do it ? Maybe I'm thinking of that night but for some reason I thought he did it. Maybe I just wanted him to do it so it's wishful thinking. The very first game I ever went to was Ebbetts Field vs the Cubs. And our idol Duke Snider hit a home run that game. And some Cub named Ernie Banks also hit one. I was mad cause I wanted to watch Maglie or Newcombe pitch. Instead we got some rookie named Drysdale. Dodgers won 7-5.
It was so colorful and exciting for me. My dad bought me a hot dog and coke and I am so thankful to him for bringing me that day. Boy I loved those Dodger teams.
I met Duke Snider years later and told him that story and he thanked me for rooting for him.
Duke never hit 4 HR in a game. As far as I remember, the only Dodger of that era to hit 4 was Gil Hodges, who did it one night in Forbes Field, some time in 1951 or thereabouts. I remember listening to Red Barber smoothly calling Gil's last time at bat: "Hodges looking for his fourth HR. He swings [slight pause], and he's got it!" LOL I love it. Hodges hitting 4 homers and that's it. That's Red Barber alright. If he ever got excited he sat on a Bumble Bee and got stung in the ass. You know he was one of the voices of the Yanks in '61. He was on TV when Maris hit his 61st. The same thing, you believe it ? I loved that crazy old man.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 23, 2019 9:21:49 GMT -5
This is quite impressive
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Post by Kruunch on Jun 23, 2019 15:00:59 GMT -5
This is quite impressive Him and Wade Boggs were such a pain for opposing pitchers. They never swung at bad pitches, rarely struck out, and they always worked the counts.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 24, 2019 8:29:32 GMT -5
This is quite impressive Him and Wade Boggs were such a pain for opposing pitchers. They never swung at bad pitches, rarely struck out, and they always worked the counts. The game needs more of these types of hitters and less HR or K guys who hit .220 with 40+ HRs and 200+ Ks. Chicks may dig the long ball, but this dude enjoys the feisty high contact scrappy hitters with high OBPs.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jun 24, 2019 9:23:05 GMT -5
just chiming in initially here, albeit a touch late in the thread. Best players I have seen play (and I assume you mean live) are:
Thurmon Munson Rod Carew Mariano Rivera
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Post by Deplorable on Jun 24, 2019 10:10:51 GMT -5
just chiming in initially here, albeit a touch late in the thread. Best players I have seen play (and I assume you mean live) are: Thurmon Munson Rod Carew Mariano Rivera Good choices (although I might argue that Carew was not a truly outstanding fielder). But Mariano is ineligible -- no pitchers allowed!
So you have another pick.
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Post by Kruunch on Jun 24, 2019 11:02:53 GMT -5
My list.
Pete Rose Mike Schmidt Eddie Murray
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Post by Fletch842 on Jun 29, 2019 6:46:04 GMT -5
just chiming in initially here, albeit a touch late in the thread. Best players I have seen play (and I assume you mean live) are: Thurmon Munson Rod Carew Mariano Rivera Good choices (although I might argue that Carew was not a truly outstanding fielder). But Mariano is ineligible -- no pitchers allowed!
So you have another pick.
oops, sorry about that, how about Kirby Pucket
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 29, 2019 13:39:04 GMT -5
Griffey Jr., Trout and Bonds. PED’s or not, Bonds was impossible to pitch to. Lots of other users came nowhere near replicating what Bonds did. He was a terror. Best hitter I have ever seen.
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Post by magilla on Jun 30, 2019 23:15:17 GMT -5
If injuries didn't curtail his career, I'd think that Fred Lynn would be on a top twenty list.
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Post by Dogecoin on Jul 2, 2019 13:01:59 GMT -5
Bo Jackson (brief career and overshadowed by his football, by watch the highlights on YouTube, a force on offense and defense. Hall of famer had he stuck with baseball only Ricky Henderson (best lead off hitter ever; ridiculous combination of good eye, power, and speed on bases) A-Roid (pre-roid probably best overall talent I've seen. Should have played SS for Yanks)
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Post by slyfoxx on Sept 20, 2019 16:42:20 GMT -5
Pete Rose Mike Schmidt Ozzie Smith
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Sept 20, 2019 18:22:37 GMT -5
1980's Don Mattingly Ken Griffey Jr George Brett
Mike Trout should be in my top three, but I never see him play.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 20, 2019 20:48:02 GMT -5
Hank Aaron Willie Mays Mickey Mantle How in the world can you deny these 3 ?
I was actually going to leave out Aaron, I was going to say:
Willie The Mick Sandy Koufax
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Post by SG88 on Sept 21, 2019 0:46:15 GMT -5
1980's Don Mattingly Ken Griffey Jr George Brett Mike Trout should be in my top three, but I never see him play. I watch a lot of him living in SoCal and he is just unbelievable. I don't care for the Angels, but tune into their games because of him.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 21, 2019 7:21:03 GMT -5
Hank Aaron Willie Mays Mickey Mantle How in the world can you deny these 3 ?
I was actually going to leave out Aaron, I was going to say:
Willie The Mick Sandy Koufax
No pitchers. I made the same error in my initial post.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 21, 2019 11:57:22 GMT -5
How in the world can you deny these 3 ?
I was actually going to leave out Aaron, I was going to say:
Willie The Mick Sandy Koufax
No pitchers. I made the same error in my initial post. Sorry Fletch I seen it after I posted it. OK I'll take Henry Aaron also. Imagine that , Aarons my substitute. LOL !
WOW what an outfield ! And they all played at the same time. Whew Boy !
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 21, 2019 12:14:42 GMT -5
No pitchers. I made the same error in my initial post. Sorry Fletch I seen it after I posted it. OK I'll take Henry Aaron also. Imagine that , Aarons my substitute. LOL !
WOW what an outfield ! And they all played at the same time. Whew Boy !
Joe D would also be a solid choice, imho
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Post by trentongiantsfan83 on Oct 7, 2019 13:36:26 GMT -5
Mike Trout Cal Ripken Jr. Frank Thomas
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Post by SG88 on Jun 6, 2020 21:56:37 GMT -5
You know that a baseball player is unreal when he gets intentionally walked with the bases loaded. I've seen it happen twice. Once to Barry Bonds and once to Mike Trout. If anyone can think of another time this has happened, let me know.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 7, 2020 10:10:53 GMT -5
Griffey Henderson Trout
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Post by Nite on Jun 7, 2020 11:52:52 GMT -5
Mine are Barry Bonds, Mike Trout, and Daryl Strawberry (in his prime before the drugs). Who are yours. Mike Trout will be the best player ever by the time he retires. Tell me why I am wrong about that. Strawberry was awesome. That guy could just flick his wrists and the ball sailed 420 + ft. A rocket arm and could fly on the basepaths. A true '5 tool player'.. Too bad he got injured so much..
Derek Jeter? No love there? Perhaps the best $$ player of all time. And I'm not a Yankees fan. I would add:
Brett Trout
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