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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 13, 2019 18:47:37 GMT -5
As the NYYs say in 2019
Next Man Up
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 13, 2019 18:48:23 GMT -5
Good news/Bad News The bad news first.......He's suspended for four games. Now the good news........ He's not that good anyway.I disagree, especially since he is probably our best WR.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 13, 2019 19:19:39 GMT -5
Good news/Bad News The bad news first.......He's suspended for four games. Now the good news........ He's not that good anyway.I disagree, especially since he is probably our best WR. Yeah, the question is if whoever replaces him is better. Prolly not.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 13, 2019 19:33:21 GMT -5
Whatever man, I have a feeling we have plenty of WR hungry to replace this guy. Hunger and talent are two different things. Tate is a really good route runner and is very evasive. He also has really good hands. This is a key loss.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 13, 2019 20:01:01 GMT -5
Of course it’s upheld. Anyone not with the last name Tate knew it was a fishy story. Way to start the season on a new team. it is no secret in the football or bodybuilding circle that fertility drugs that are on the banned list such as clomid for example are used as a post cycle therapy to increase your testosterone and help your levels recover after a steroid cycle. of course it was going to stick. Post cycle therapy FWIW a natural test booster is anything that blocks estrogen as when we hit our 30s we put out as much estrogen as a teenage girl,which naturally blocks testosterone production
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 21:03:53 GMT -5
Of course it’s upheld. Anyone not with the last name Tate knew it was a fishy story. Way to start the season on a new team. it is no secret in the football or bodybuilding circle that fertility drugs that are on the banned list such as clomid for example are used as a post cycle therapy to increase your testosterone and help your levels recover after a steroid cycle. of course it was going to stick. did he get caught for clomids?
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Post by GameTime on Aug 13, 2019 21:10:19 GMT -5
I’m real down on this idiot. We pay him a boatload of cash, and he gets himself suspended for the first 4 games ... in a season where we really need to start strong. Thanks pal I hadn't noticed.....
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Post by GameTime on Aug 13, 2019 21:13:33 GMT -5
Whatever man, I have a feeling we have plenty of WR hungry to replace this guy. Hunger and talent are two different things. Tate is a really good route runner and is very evasive. He also has really good hands. This is a key loss. I am on the TJ Jones wagon at the moment. I know he's been in the league for a while without much noise but he seems to be having a very good camp. Shows some real fine body adjustment to make catches too. "You neva know!!"
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 13, 2019 21:44:47 GMT -5
Good news/Bad News The bad news first.......He's suspended for four games. Now the good news........ He's not that good anyway.I disagree, especially since he is probably our best WR. I'm sorry but Golden Tate is just "a guy"
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 13, 2019 21:53:41 GMT -5
Whatever man, I have a feeling we have plenty of WR hungry to replace this guy. So if Eli struggles against Dallas for the lack of play makers at the wide receiver position excuse goes out the window right? Cool.. ”This guy” is a high priced free agent who was supposed to be an integral part of our offense. He won’t be easily replaced by the Fowler’s and Latimers of the team. It will be another excuse why Eli sucks again. In Eli’s defense he’s in a no win situation we have the 2nd easiest schedule so you can say well the teams we played sucked if he plays well. If he plays poorly and has us basically eliminated from playoff contention before Halloween for the 3rd straight year the Giants would be playing themselves if they’re trotting him out there. They can give him a token “garbage” game at the end of the season as his send off.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 13, 2019 22:01:17 GMT -5
Of course it’s upheld. Anyone not with the last name Tate knew it was a fishy story. Way to start the season on a new team. it is no secret in the football or bodybuilding circle that fertility drugs that are on the banned list such as clomid for example are used as a post cycle therapy to increase your testosterone and help your levels recover after a steroid cycle. of course it was going to stick. Golden Tate has a history for having a lack of integrity. As soon as he came up with that crap story it reminded me of the time my soldier popped hot on her piss test for marijuana. Her excuse “I got in a car and people were smoking” needless to say the Army wasn’t trying to hear it. After 6 months she pissed hot again and 1st SGT asked me what happened? I said maybe she got in the same car again......lol. The crappy part was I had to be on extra duty with her.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 13, 2019 22:35:34 GMT -5
it is no secret in the football or bodybuilding circle that fertility drugs that are on the banned list such as clomid for example are used as a post cycle therapy to increase your testosterone and help your levels recover after a steroid cycle. of course it was going to stick. Golden Tate has a history for having a lack of integrity. As soon as he came up with that crap story it reminded me of the time my soldier popped hot on her piss test for marijuana. Her excuse “I got in a car and people were smoking” needless to say the Army wasn’t trying to hear it. After 6 months she pissed hot again and 1st SGT asked me what happened? I said maybe she got in the same car again......lol. The crappy part was I had to be on extra duty with her. The military has a zero tolerance policy for drug use, so there is no way of getting out of it. Maybe a slim chance at a court martial where you would have to prove that it was truly an accident. That was the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Almost as bad as "I didn't know it was marijuana."
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Post by SG88 on Aug 13, 2019 22:38:58 GMT -5
I disagree, especially since he is probably our best WR. I'm sorry but Golden Tate is just "a guy" I disagree. I think that he is slightly above average. I've seen him do some really good work in Detroit and Seattle. Of course he had Wilson and Stafford throwing to him, both of which are at least really good QBs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:40:20 GMT -5
I’m real down on this idiot. We pay him a boatload of cash, and he gets himself suspended for the first 4 games ... in a season where we really need to start strong. Thanks pal i didnt like this snap signing when it happened, too much cash the second year and he will be 31 .
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 13, 2019 22:41:10 GMT -5
Golden Tate has a history for having a lack of integrity. As soon as he came up with that crap story it reminded me of the time my soldier popped hot on her piss test for marijuana. Her excuse “I got in a car and people were smoking” needless to say the Army wasn’t trying to hear it. After 6 months she pissed hot again and 1st SGT asked me what happened? I said maybe she got in the same car again......lol. The crappy part was I had to be on extra duty with her. The military has a zero tolerance policy for drug use, so there is no way of getting out of it. Maybe a slim chance at a court martial where you would have to prove that it was truly an accident. That was the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Almost as bad as "I didn't know it was marijuana." Oh, that one's no good? Crap.
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Post by lt56 on Aug 13, 2019 22:44:20 GMT -5
Yeah kinda expected that! Nobody forced Tate to put anything in his Body he is a 31 year old Veteran going into what his 10 Season in the NFL? Yeah he has to take this one on the chin.
Next Man Up! One of these young guys need to step up, again he is 31 so Tate wasn't looked at as the Long Term answer anyway so lets hope Cody Latimer, Alonzo Russell, Darius Slayton, Reggie White Jr can step up and take advantage of the opportunity while he is out
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:57:46 GMT -5
it is no secret in the football or bodybuilding circle that fertility drugs that are on the banned list such as clomid for example are used as a post cycle therapy to increase your testosterone and help your levels recover after a steroid cycle. of course it was going to stick. did he get caught for clomids? idk i used clomid as an example , it was likely one of these that block estrogen and raise test levels, he nor the nfl ever specified which one he tested positive for or if it was just elevated test levels. D. ANTI-ESTROGENIC AGENTS: Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Aminoglutethimide Cytadren Anastrozole Arimidex 4-androstene-3,6,17 trione 6-oxo Clomiphene Clomid Cyclofenil --- Exemestane Aromastin Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Fadrozole Afema Formestane Lentarone Fulvestrant Faslodex Letrozole Femara Raloxifene Evista Tamoxifen --- Testolactone Teslac Toremifene Acapodene Vorazole Rivizor
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 23:17:51 GMT -5
did he get caught for clomids? idk i used clomid as an example , it was likely one of these that block estrogen and raise test levels, he nor the nfl ever specified which one he tested positive for or if it was just elevated test levels. D. ANTI-ESTROGENIC AGENTS: Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Aminoglutethimide Cytadren Anastrozole Arimidex 4-androstene-3,6,17 trione 6-oxo Clomiphene Clomid Cyclofenil --- Exemestane Aromastin Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Fadrozole Afema Formestane Lentarone Fulvestrant Faslodex Letrozole Femara Raloxifene Evista Tamoxifen --- Testolactone Teslac Toremifene Acapodene Vorazole Rivizor interesting because clomids are used by women that are trying to conceive. Sure you’re right clomids are used by body builders coming off test cycles to jump start their test production by introducing estrogen. But it’s never taken by people that are not on steroids. This would create a huge problem with balance, men also have estrogen and if they get more without having that extra testosterone in your body to counter it, then it has the opposite effect. Men trying to change to women take estrogen pills not men trying to get their wife pregnant which Tate said he was trying to do. So it had to have been elevated testosterone levels. The thing is, he would have taken them when they were trying to conceive not 2 months after the baby was already born. So that’s why I didn’t believe him, he’s a roid user, definitely more out there though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 23:49:24 GMT -5
idk i used clomid as an example , it was likely one of these that block estrogen and raise test levels, he nor the nfl ever specified which one he tested positive for or if it was just elevated test levels. D. ANTI-ESTROGENIC AGENTS: Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Aminoglutethimide Cytadren Anastrozole Arimidex 4-androstene-3,6,17 trione 6-oxo Clomiphene Clomid Cyclofenil --- Exemestane Aromastin Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Fadrozole Afema Formestane Lentarone Fulvestrant Faslodex Letrozole Femara Raloxifene Evista Tamoxifen --- Testolactone Teslac Toremifene Acapodene Vorazole Rivizor interesting because clomids are used by women that are trying to conceive. Sure you’re right clomids are used by body builders coming off test cycles to jump start their test production by introducing estrogen. But it’s never taken by people that are not on steroids. This would create a huge problem with balance, men also have estrogen and if they get more without having that extra testosterone in your body to counter it, then it has the opposite effect. Men trying to change to women take estrogen pills not men trying to get their wife pregnant which Tate said he was trying to do. So it had to have been elevated testosterone levels. The thing is, he would have taken them when they were trying to conceive not 2 months after the baby was already born. So that’s why I didn’t believe him, he’s a roid user, definitely more out there though. in men Clomid blocks estrogen’s interaction with the pituitary gland, there is an increase in LH, FSH, and testosterone in the body for a woman it blocks estrogen receptors and stimulates ovulation. anyway i agree, he was either lying and took a anti Aromatase inhibitor after a steroid cycle or he just tested pos for added test.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 5:11:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry but Golden Tate is just "a guy" I disagree. I think that he is slightly above average. I've seen him do some really good work in Detroit and Seattle. Of course he had Wilson and Stafford throwing to him, both of which are at least really good QBs. He did well in Detroit that’s it. When he replaced Megatron. His numbers in Seattle were average so it won’t fit your narrative.
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Post by Roswell on Aug 14, 2019 5:34:36 GMT -5
Tate is a very good receiver.
For years now the Giants have had to carry on without their #1 for many games due to injury. They should be used to this by now.
Life goes on.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 14, 2019 5:47:24 GMT -5
I disagree, especially since he is probably our best WR. I'm sorry but Golden Tate is just "a guy" "A Guy', who is better than any other guy we have on our team. He is a better slot guy than Shep. Although, off the PEDs who knows now. He will probably be injured all the time. Tate could stil get 100 catches and 1000 yards in a season. And a ton of first downs. Thats more than a JAG. Corey Coleman was a JAG.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 14, 2019 6:47:05 GMT -5
screw it......give him very limited reps from here on out and get the rest of the group up to speed with Eli and Jones.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 14, 2019 7:11:06 GMT -5
Golden Tate has a history for having a lack of integrity. As soon as he came up with that crap story it reminded me of the time my soldier popped hot on her piss test for marijuana. Her excuse “I got in a car and people were smoking” needless to say the Army wasn’t trying to hear it. After 6 months she pissed hot again and 1st SGT asked me what happened? I said maybe she got in the same car again......lol. The crappy part was I had to be on extra duty with her. The military has a zero tolerance policy for drug use, so there is no way of getting out of it. Maybe a slim chance at a court martial where you would have to prove that it was truly an accident. That was the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Almost as bad as "I didn't know it was marijuana." Well I was shocked they didn’t chapter her until the 2nd failed test. It was at the height of OIF/OEF my only advice to her was now that your getting the boot you can smoke all you want.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 14, 2019 7:16:13 GMT -5
The military has a zero tolerance policy for drug use, so there is no way of getting out of it. Maybe a slim chance at a court martial where you would have to prove that it was truly an accident. That was the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Almost as bad as "I didn't know it was marijuana." Oh, that one's no good? Crap. Are we able to use the pro rated portion of his unpaid salary for next years cap? I never understood why we even signed him he’s not a no.1 and at best maybe an ok no.2. It seems like we have all the same type of small WR’s who run bubble screens and 5-10 yard routes.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 14, 2019 7:19:51 GMT -5
Golden Tate has a history for having a lack of integrity. Please what history??? How about stealing donuts from a donut shop? How about I came to Detroit because it’s beautiful and has great golf courses? If you ever been to big D I wouldn’t describe it as beautiful. That was a money grab but I’m not mad at him just don’t pull a Mike Hampton on us and say something that we know isn’t true.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 14, 2019 7:22:47 GMT -5
Well I was shocked they didn’t chapter her until the 2nd failed test. It was at the height of OIF/OEF my only advice to her was now that your getting the boot you can smoke all you want. I hear quite the different story about the Military and pot . On active duty zero tolerance even after that the VA doesn’t provide “medical marijuana” and I’m pretty sure your medical providers will report you if you are using.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 14, 2019 7:53:48 GMT -5
idk i used clomid as an example , it was likely one of these that block estrogen and raise test levels, he nor the nfl ever specified which one he tested positive for or if it was just elevated test levels. D. ANTI-ESTROGENIC AGENTS: Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Aminoglutethimide Cytadren Anastrozole Arimidex 4-androstene-3,6,17 trione 6-oxo Clomiphene Clomid Cyclofenil --- Exemestane Aromastin Generic Name Brand Names (Examples) Fadrozole Afema Formestane Lentarone Fulvestrant Faslodex Letrozole Femara Raloxifene Evista Tamoxifen --- Testolactone Teslac Toremifene Acapodene Vorazole Rivizor interesting because clomids are used by women that are trying to conceive. Sure you’re right clomids are used by body builders coming off test cycles to jump start their test production by introducing estrogen. But it’s never taken by people that are not on steroids. This would create a huge problem with balance, men also have estrogen and if they get more without having that extra testosterone in your body to counter it, then it has the opposite effect. Men trying to change to women take estrogen pills not men trying to get their wife pregnant which Tate said he was trying to do. So it had to have been elevated testosterone levels. The thing is, he would have taken them when they were trying to conceive not 2 months after the baby was already born. So that’s why I didn’t believe him, he’s a roid user, definitely more out there though. From the sound of it, they were trying to conceive again, not a residual from the baby born a few months earlier. Either way, it's certainly an eyebrow raiser.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 14, 2019 8:27:43 GMT -5
Oh, that one's no good? Crap. Are we able to use the pro rated portion of his unpaid salary for next years cap? I never understood why we even signed him he’s not a no.1 and at best maybe an ok no.2. It seems like we have all the same type of small WR’s who run bubble screens and 5-10 yard routes. Probably a tallest midget signing. Sure, he’s not a 1, but on a team with nothing close to a 1WR, a solid 2 is like a. 1.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 14, 2019 8:56:19 GMT -5
Well he was a poormans veteran replacement for OBJ. Though I do think Tate could be a very good 2nd or 3rd receiver. Give him time in pre season but he will be able to work himself into the offense when he comes back.
I have to tell ya after the first pre season game I want to see a lot of these young receivers. Russell Shepard, T.J. Jones, White jr, and I can't think of the guys name we got from the Lions but he was wide open at least 3 times. And made catches for first downs. The other Shepard caught a nice pass also.These young guys need reps in game situations.
I find myself really wanting to watch Russell Shepard and T.J. Jones.
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