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Post by Roswell on Aug 23, 2019 12:14:07 GMT -5
He’s won eight games in 2 years. That’s 4/year. Worth mentioning if we’re throwing out numbers. This is what I find hilarious about stupid logic when it pertains to Eli . The poster that came up with his list of "Elevates their team in a way Eli can not in the past 10 years" I Will remind you . ( not an opinion) It is Completely on a level high level of absurd. Tipping towards super clueless. To even think that anyone would agree with that list I lost a few points off my IQ from a brain bleed because of laughing so hard, If his list is so true as You, Morehead and others with their likes claim, or you would not try to use the same logic he did to defended it. I could use truly moronic logic to prove his list to be idiotic in its nature , Because over half of the QBs, on that list have not played in the NFL for 10 years most 5 or less. Yeah it is that simple to see the idiocy in it what he tried to convey. I will use Deric Car as an example. I could use more if you would like. To respond to your Eli only won 4 games. How did David Carr exactly lift his team better that Eli with only 10 wins in the last 2 seasons? And only 32 in his 5 year career and 42 loses? But Really keep it up because, I like the intense chuckles. Do you plan on addressing my points or are you just going to try and call others stupid and moronic? Because I'm not going to engage in an intelligent conversation with someone who spends his time insulting other people. Read thru the last three posts that I wrote, not someone else, and respond. Or don't. Up to you. But if you want to talk about my posts, I'd like to hear why you disagree. Just don't resort to childish name calling to make your point. Nothing is gained by that.
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Post by TEM on Aug 23, 2019 12:45:05 GMT -5
This is what I find hilarious about stupid logic when it pertains to Eli . The poster that came up with his list of "Elevates their team in a way Eli can not in the past 10 years" I Will remind you . ( not an opinion) It is Completely on a level high level of absurd. Tipping towards super clueless. To even think that anyone would agree with that list I lost a few points off my IQ from a brain bleed because of laughing so hard, If his list is so true as You, Morehead and others with their likes claim, or you would not try to use the same logic he did to defended it. I could use truly moronic logic to prove his list to be idiotic in its nature , Because over half of the QBs, on that list have not played in the NFL for 10 years most 5 or less. Yeah it is that simple to see the idiocy in it what he tried to convey. I will use Deric Car as an example. I could use more if you would like. To respond to your Eli only won 4 games. How did David Carr exactly lift his team better that Eli with only 10 wins in the last 2 seasons? And only 32 in his 5 year career and 42 loses? But Really keep it up because, I like the intense chuckles. Do you plan on addressing my points or are you just going to try and call others stupid and moronic? Because I'm not going to engage in an intelligent conversation with someone who spends his time insulting other people. Read thru the last three posts that I wrote, not someone else, and respond. Or don't. Up to you. But if you want to talk about my posts, I'd like to hear why you disagree. Just don't resort to childish name calling to make your point. Nothing is gained by that. I respond i present a fact . you come up something else that's easily shown to be false with facts. Now when I asks a question for you to put up your facts What you guys always fail to acknowledge. What was the rest of the teams role in the the past 2 season . Anyone who conveniently leaves that out Why the team role is always left out of the Why it is all on the QB? IMO: It is either A) just want to place all the blame on the QB Or B) Does not have a grasp on how the game of football is played. ( A team spot ) The entire team will dictate outcome of a game not just the QB. No matter how the QB play is . I showed Eli's stats from last season . He did in fact a good season statistical, and yet you decided to use the team's record as if it was all an the QB for the 5 win record. I find that to that funny . I laugh the same at, stupid joke, stupid stunts, as I do with stupid posts. I call it like I see it. Now if you take it to heart that I find stretching of the facts on why the Giants lost games last season hilariously stupid. And I do. Then get your facts correct. That defense gave up the lead 4 times with under 2 minuets of the game . That would have been 9 wins and the playoffs. You blame that record all on the QB and i know you have that defense giving up the lead knowledge . I am suppose to not question that bias jargon ? I May not be the smartest guy in the room . I do know when I am reading stupidity .
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Post by Roswell on Aug 23, 2019 13:12:35 GMT -5
Do you plan on addressing my points or are you just going to try and call others stupid and moronic? Because I'm not going to engage in an intelligent conversation with someone who spends his time insulting other people. Read thru the last three posts that I wrote, not someone else, and respond. Or don't. Up to you. But if you want to talk about my posts, I'd like to hear why you disagree. Just don't resort to childish name calling to make your point. Nothing is gained by that. I respond i present a fact . you come up something else that's easily shown to be false with facts. Now when I asks a question for you to put up your facts What you guys always fail to acknowledge. What was the rest of the teams role in the the past 2 season . Anyone who conveniently leaves that out Why the team role is always left out of the Why it is all on the QB? IMO: It is either A) just want to place all the blame on the QB Or B) Does not have a grasp on how the game of football is played. ( A team spot ) The entire team will dictate outcome of a game not just the QB. No matter how the QB play is . I showed Eli's stats from last season . He did in fact a good season statistical, and yet you decided to use the team's record as if it was all an the QB for the 5 win record. I find that to that funny . I laugh the same at, stupid joke, stupid stunts, as I do with stupid posts. I call it like I see it. Now if you take it to heart that I find stretching of the facts on why the Giants lost games last season hilariously stupid. And I do. Then get your facts correct. That defense gave up the lead 4 times with under 2 minuets of the game . That would have been 9 wins and the playoffs. You blame that record all on the QB and i know you have that defense giving up the lead knowledge . I am suppose to not question that bias jargon ? I May not be the smartest guy in the room . I do know when I am reading stupidity . Never mind. Sorry I bothered. Good luck to you.
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Post by bizcliz on Aug 23, 2019 13:19:52 GMT -5
If, in case, you still had doubts:
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 23, 2019 13:22:35 GMT -5
Yeah one season....with a roster that previously sucked. No judging from me yet. Moral victories? Who was your pick for HC? I wanted a young offensive minded coach. Matt Lafleur. Shurmur is something along the lines of 15-34 as a HC. Shurmur isn't old he is 54... and Shurmur is offensive minded did you see what he did with the Vikings offense and Case Keenum? Shurmurs nickname is the QB Whisperer...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 13:42:06 GMT -5
If, in case, you still had doubts: I think we ALL agree that Eli is the starter........right now. He has started every game this preseason.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 23, 2019 14:07:03 GMT -5
If, in case, you still had doubts: I think we ALL agree that Eli is the starter........right now. He has started every game this preseason. And I think he's looked better this preseason than any that I can remember. He usually starts slow this time of year. Has given the staff no reason not to start him. That being said, Jones has been very impressive and should be ready to jump into the fire if/when necessary.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 23, 2019 17:11:02 GMT -5
Yeah one season....with a roster that previously sucked. No judging from me yet. Moral victories? Who was your pick for HC? I wanted a young offensive minded coach. Matt Lafleur. Shurmur is something along the lines of 15-34 as a HC. He should be run out of town shortly once Rodgers finishes undermining him.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 24, 2019 9:13:59 GMT -5
You know what? Here’s how it works for QBs in the NFL..... If someone is going to list accomplishments like SB wins from over seven years ago, completion % never was higher last year, eighth in this, sixth in that, etc, etc....as ways to point out Eli Manning”s effectiveness then why can’t his record also be brought up? It’s also the team in part that enabled him to put up those misleading numbers that you guys have been hiding behind in his defense. We all owe Eli our respect and appreciation for those two magical years. They were great, great, years. But other than those two years out of the 15 he’s played, he’s been in the same boat as guys like Andy Dalton. 13 out of his 15 years as a starting QB Eli Manning has failed to win a playoff game. 13 out of 15. That’s mind blowing for a guy that’s probably going to get into the HOF. This, whether you think it’s fair or not, is how QBs are evaluated. Yeah, it’s a “team” sport. So why ever fire a coach or change the QB? The answer? Because the “team” is not winning. I’ve defended Eli for years, much like you guys with the rose colored glasses on. Love his durability, his demeanor with the press, his class and of course the improbable pair of trophies he helped bring to the franchise. But that was then and this is now. We will see this year. Feels like I’ve heard this before ...
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 24, 2019 9:16:52 GMT -5
You know what? Here’s how it works for QBs in the NFL..... If someone is going to list accomplishments like SB wins from over seven years ago, completion % never was higher last year, eighth in this, sixth in that, etc, etc....as ways to point out Eli Manning”s effectiveness then why can’t his record also be brought up? It’s also the team in part that enabled him to put up those misleading numbers that you guys have been hiding behind in his defense. We all owe Eli our respect and appreciation for those two magical years. They were great, great, years. But other than those two years out of the 15 he’s played, he’s been in the same boat as guys like Andy Dalton. 13 out of his 15 years as a starting QB Eli Manning has failed to win a playoff game. 13 out of 15. That’s mind blowing for a guy that’s probably going to get into the HOF. This, whether you think it’s fair or not, is how QBs are evaluated. Yeah, it’s a “team” sport. So why ever fire a coach or change the QB? The answer? Because the “team” is not winning. I’ve defended Eli for years, much like you guys with the rose colored glasses on. Love his durability, his demeanor with the press, his class and of course the improbable pair of trophies he helped bring to the franchise. But that was then and this is now. Good post
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Post by tcseacliff on Aug 25, 2019 18:34:13 GMT -5
I wanted a young offensive minded coach. Matt Lafleur. Shurmur is something along the lines of 15-34 as a HC. So you "despise" Shurmur becuase he is old? We should get Coughlin's opinion?? that will settle this!!LOL !
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