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Post by bluejayc on Aug 19, 2019 8:23:20 GMT -5
Our seconds look better than some of the O-line configurations we have had recently. ^^ THIS ^^ |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 19, 2019 8:32:09 GMT -5
Showing promise.
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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 19, 2019 8:59:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't even think about evaluating this oline until game 3 of the regular season. I agree. Our starting offensive line played against the back ups we won’t know what type of OL we have until at least week 3. Hopefully we get out of the gate hot and not another 0-3 which usually means you have like an 8% chance of making the playoffs. Basically another season over before we even get to Halloween. I get the mindset that we should wait to see what we have. After all the seasons of sub-par O-line play, it's difficult to be positive about a group of guys who have never played a regular season game together. The specter of disappointment from past seasons looms large in many minds. Looking at the off-season moves that were made to improve the O-line, gives me some encouragement in that they have gotten 2 new guys who are proven quality players at their positions and are bringing back 2 guys who significantly improved their play in the second part of the last season. The only question mark that remains is our starting center. By all accounts he seemingly has the skill-set and the drive to be a very good center. That being said, I'm cautiously optimistic about the O-line gelling sufficiently to do the job they're supposed to do by the opening game at Dallas. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 19, 2019 10:16:41 GMT -5
Its only preseason everyone keeps screaming in media. But ww as fans know how horrible the starting oline has looked the past 3 years in preseason.
They were worse then bad couldnt move the ball at all. It was embarrassing it was so bad. If u remember it was the 2nd & 3rd strings that won games against other teams scrubs sort of camouflaging how bad starters were. People kept saying oh they are just vanilla not wanting to tip their hand as to what they will do when games turn real. Yet soon as real games started they looked just as bad
Its funny how other teams in preseason look good and crisp when starters were in but we always hsd excuses for our teams ineptness
This version looks dramatically better in the time we have seen them
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 19, 2019 10:27:10 GMT -5
I'll get enthusiastic about this group if they look good after this next game.
Cincinnati still has a very good front 4 and I can't see them resting them this game as they have a new coach and probably a new system they need to practice,and because we are not playing them they won't be holding back.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 19, 2019 10:48:45 GMT -5
Our seconds look better than some of the O-line configurations we have had recently. ^^ THIS ^^ Sadly true. Sadder is that recently means seven friggin years. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 19, 2019 12:03:03 GMT -5
The good & bad news from yesterday's practice from the NY Posts' Zach Braziller:
The first-team defensive line was impressive, frequently pushing back or standing up the first-team offensive line in running plays, leaving little room for running back Saquon Barkley and others to maneuver.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 12:12:24 GMT -5
last preseason they looked especially terrible, the whole team.
this first 2 games its a thousand miles from last year, they look like pretty darn good.
we may not yet be a juggernaut, but we should put up a fight this year. were not as bad as the rest of the world thinks
this fall and winter, look for media to say "the surprisingly tough Giants"
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Post by GameTime on Aug 19, 2019 12:15:09 GMT -5
looks like they may have some good depth at least.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 19, 2019 12:33:27 GMT -5
last preseason they looked especially terrible, the whole team.this first 2 games its a thousand miles from last year, they look like pretty darn good. we may not yet be a juggernaut, but we should put up a fight this year. were not as bad as the rest of the world thinks this fall and winter, look for media to say "the surprisingly tough Giants" Yup, this OL looks light-years better than last year in pre-season. Lets just cross our fingers they can stay healthy. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 19, 2019 15:02:12 GMT -5
I agree. Our starting offensive line played against the back ups we won’t know what type of OL we have until at least week 3. Hopefully we get out of the gate hot and not another 0-3 which usually means you have like an 8% chance of making the playoffs. Basically another season over before we even get to Halloween. I get the mindset that we should wait to see what we have. After all the seasons of sub-par O-line play, it's difficult to be positive about a group of guys who have never played a regular season game together. The specter of disappointment from past seasons looms large in many minds. Looking at the off-season moves that were made to improve the O-line, gives me some encouragement in that they have gotten 2 new guys who are proven quality players at their positions and are bringing back 2 guys who significantly improved their play in the second part of the last season. The only question mark that remains is our starting center. By all accounts he seemingly has the skill-set and the drive to be a very good center. That being said, I'm cautiously optimistic about the O-line gelling sufficiently to do the job they're supposed to do by the opening game at Dallas. The OL sucked in last season opener against the Cowturds if they suck again that won’t be a good look for Gettleman or Eli. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 19, 2019 15:04:58 GMT -5
last preseason they looked especially terrible, the whole team.this first 2 games its a thousand miles from last year, they look like pretty darn good. we may not yet be a juggernaut, but we should put up a fight this year. were not as bad as the rest of the world thinks this fall and winter, look for media to say "the surprisingly tough Giants" Yup, this OL looks light-years better than last year in pre-season. Lets just cross our fingers they can stay healthy. They haven’t played against starting caliber type players but I hope that they are a good offensive line no more excuses. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 15:07:15 GMT -5
well seeing as they only played 1 -2 series vs any starters , i Would reserve judgement for now, we dont want to bury our oline excuse just yet if we get off to a slow start on offense.
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Post by straightrazorman on Aug 19, 2019 18:50:11 GMT -5
The good & bad news from yesterday's practice from the NY Posts' Zach Braziller:
The first-team defensive line was impressive, frequently pushing back or standing up the first-team offensive line in running plays, leaving little room for running back Saquon Barkley and others to maneuver.
It's good that the D is coming together and giving the O-line some real practice and visa-versa. Steel sharpens steel. |
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Post by SG88 on Aug 19, 2019 20:16:51 GMT -5
I know its early and yes the season hasnt started, but the Oline looks leaps and bounds better than recent past. Its quite shocking how horrible Newhouse, Flowers, Hart, heck even Wheeler have been. We are winning some battles in there, getting knockback. We are going to win some games this year, I think we are going to surprise some people. We have the 2nd easiest schedule this season as compared to the 2nd toughest last season so we should be markedly better than 5-11 if not and Jones doesn’t play at all this season it would be an indictment on Jones and also that Gettleman’s moves were utter failures. So people sipping the kool aid will try to put spin but don’t buy it. The Giants are 3-13, 5-11and another 5 or 6 win season this year is not improvement no matter what Gettleman try’s to sell you. As much as I am eager to move on at QB, we won't see Jones play unless it is a blow out game, we are eliminated from contention, or Eli Manning getting injured. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 20:27:42 GMT -5
We have the 2nd easiest schedule this season as compared to the 2nd toughest last season so we should be markedly better than 5-11 if not and Jones doesn’t play at all this season it would be an indictment on Jones and also that Gettleman’s moves were utter failures. So people sipping the kool aid will try to put spin but don’t buy it. The Giants are 3-13, 5-11and another 5 or 6 win season this year is not improvement no matter what Gettleman try’s to sell you. As much as I am eager to move on at QB, we won't see Jones play unless it is a blow out game, we are eliminated from contention, or Eli Manning getting injured. Might not see him then either. there are games down 3 scores with 2 min left and eli is still trotting out there. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 22, 2019 12:41:05 GMT -5
As much as I am eager to move on at QB, we won't see Jones play unless it is a blow out game, we are eliminated from contention, or Eli Manning getting injured. Might not see him then either. there are games down 3 scores with 2 min left and eli is still trotting out there. They have to send him out there to pile up garbage time stats you know so people like Gettleman can use his empty stats to try and sell people that Eli isn’t a 25th ranked QB. I don’t think there’s a team in the league other than the GIANTS who would have Eli playing at his salary this season. |
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Post by Speedman on Aug 22, 2019 12:48:36 GMT -5
Might not see him then either. there are games down 3 scores with 2 min left and eli is still trotting out there. They have to send him out there to pile up garbage time stats you know so people like Gettleman can use his empty stats to try and sell people that Eli isn’t a 25th ranked QB. I don’t think there’s a team in the league other than the GIANTS who would have Eli playing at his salary this season. In another thread you said that you moved on from trashing Eli. I guess everything that comes out of your mouth is bullshit. |
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Post by dannydimes8 on Aug 22, 2019 12:58:27 GMT -5
RT and C still worry me. Remmers has had back issues and Hilapio/Pulley is no great shakes. TE over RT and a strong leftside should allow us to run the playbook if Eli stands in there and does not rush to his underneath option.
The playaction Pass is the key to 2019 offensively. With Barkley we should be able to get gash plays off playaction. If we are great, if we aren’t warm
Up Jones because we will be bad.
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Post by Martin on Aug 22, 2019 14:44:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't even think about evaluating this oline until game 3 of the regular season. I agree. Our starting offensive line played against the back ups we won’t know what type of OL we have until at least week 3. Hopefully we get out of the gate hot and not another 0-3 which usually means you have like an 8% chance of making the playoffs. Basically another season over before we even get to Halloween. I'm not negative I just cant look at preseason as anything viable. On paper they should be better. 0-3 to start would be depressing. I hope its .500. in first 4 games. |
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 22, 2019 15:31:50 GMT -5
The Oline is bigger...which I freaking love! Hated having dancing pandas as OLineman during the JR years.
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Post by Kase1 on Aug 22, 2019 17:13:18 GMT -5
While we havent seen them against a starting front 7, what we have seen looks promising.
Solder was playing pretty poorly at the beginning of last season, but really put it together towards the end of the year. Hopefully he can pick up where he left off.
Hernandez is a stud
Halapio has been impressive so far, but has yet to be tested this pre-season. Although, people were gushing over his limited play last season, so hopefully we will see him pick up where he left off, just like Solder.
Zeitler is a top guard in the league, so im not worried what so ever.
Remmers is going to be at least average, so he will be a step up or at least be equal to what we had in wheeler last year. So it sounds like if anything RT might be the weakest link on the OL this year
With Pulley and Wheeler we finally have SOME sort of depth and versatility
....Im excited to see where we will go from here
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 22, 2019 17:19:55 GMT -5
In another thread you said that you moved on from trashing Eli. I guess everything that comes out of your mouth is bullshit. LOL, you guess??? Him and haroonie twin sons of different mothers.  I’m just pointing out the obvious. Trashing him would be saying Eli sucks and we should start Jones immediately. We already know what you have with Eli but if we are 0-3 again for the 3rd straight year and Eli is playing like he usually plays then there is nothing to gain from this season unless we go to Jones early because we know Eli’s golden parachute will be gone. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 22, 2019 17:29:03 GMT -5
They have to send him out there to pile up garbage time stats you know so people like Gettleman can use his empty stats to try and sell people that Eli isn’t a 25th ranked QB. I don’t think there’s a team in the league other than the GIANTS who would have Eli playing at his salary this season. In another thread you said that you moved on from trashing Eli. I guess everything that comes out of your mouth is bullshit. While you might like to live in the fake news world I’ve watched many games where my comment is 100% accurate. I understand you can get sentimental about Eli hell even John Mara has allowed Eli to stick around way past his expiration date. Eli was a good player a long time ago but it’s just time to move on and I haven’t been actively trying to trash him because he’s low hanging fruit. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2019 17:45:08 GMT -5
They have to send him out there to pile up garbage time stats you know so people like Gettleman can use his empty stats to try and sell people that Eli isn’t a 25th ranked QB. I don’t think there’s a team in the league other than the GIANTS who would have Eli playing at his salary this season. In another thread you said that you moved on from trashing Eli. I guess everything that comes out of your mouth is bullshit. You're arguing over passer rating, really? Here's a thought, admit you only know what you're told, hand in your fan card and spend that extra energy improving your fantasy team. |
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Post by Speedman on Aug 22, 2019 18:03:54 GMT -5
In another thread you said that you moved on from trashing Eli. I guess everything that comes out of your mouth is bullshit. You're arguing over passer rating, really? Here's a thought, admit you only know what you're told, hand in your fan card and spend that extra energy improving your fantasy team. What? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 23, 2019 0:50:19 GMT -5
You're arguing over passer rating, really? Here's a thought, admit you only know what you're told, hand in your fan card and spend that extra energy improving your fantasy team. What? I was trying to convey that the guy you're arguing with is selling the idea that stats mean more than championships. If someone actually believes, discussing it is a waste of your time. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 23, 2019 5:55:18 GMT -5
Starting line has somewhat of a rough night last night. Both Eli and DJ looked very good.
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Post by redeyejedi on Aug 23, 2019 6:06:40 GMT -5
I know its early and yes the season hasnt started, but the Oline looks leaps and bounds better than recent past. Its quite shocking how horrible Newhouse, Flowers, Hart, heck even Wheeler have been. We are winning some battles in there, getting knockback. We are going to win some games this year, I think we are going to surprise some people. The talent has much improved from the end of the Reese era. I wonder if the team wouldn't of sucked so bad for so long had we taken Cordy Glenn and Kyle Long instead of Wilson and Pugh. The David WIlson pick still drives me crazy. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 23, 2019 6:09:22 GMT -5
Hernandez didn’t play well last night. Just sayin’
Not a big deal but he was bad in run and pass
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