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Post by Delicreep on Aug 19, 2019 14:48:25 GMT -5
So we certainly shouldn’t be getting out the anointing oils at this point, but I did start the wonder - has a QB
come in and looked as good as Jones has and then turned out to be a bust?
I suppose the real question is, “is there any meaning to his start’?
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 19, 2019 14:57:53 GMT -5
Dunno how he looked in the preseason but Ryan Leaf looked all world his first 2 starts as a rookie in the NFL......
I'm not going to count RG lll because Shanahan destroyed his career making him play on a partially torn ligament that blew up in the playoffs...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 15:01:34 GMT -5
I cant remember a good nfl QB looking this good out of the gate. (throwing and mechanics wise) nevermind a bad one. One never knows for sure but id put my money on not a bust from what we have seen in camp and preseason so far.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 19, 2019 15:02:08 GMT -5
I think Blake Bortles looked legit in the preseason. I'd say he is a bust.
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 19, 2019 15:18:04 GMT -5
I don't remember Mark Sanchez in preseason but he did look pretty good in his first two seasons. Sure he made mistakes, but he bounced back from them and they won a good share of games. I thought Ryan and the Jets did him no favors in helping him develop.
And not to change the subject, but how many times would fans tell us that we would be in quarterback hell after Eli? It sure is not looking that way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 15:23:50 GMT -5
I don't remember Mark Sanchez in preseason but he did look pretty good in his first two seasons. Sure he made mistakes, but he bounced back from them and they won a good share of games. I thought Ryan and the Jets did him no favors in helping him develop. And not to change the subject, but how many times would fans tell us that we would be in quarterback hell after Eli? It sure is not looking that way. haha remember when fans would say oh we will miss ELi and pointed to kent graham and dave brown. And I said this isnt the 90's , kids are coming out very athletic, we should be fine. |
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 19, 2019 15:40:04 GMT -5
I think Blake Bortles looked legit in the preseason. I'd say he is a bust. I vaguely remember Bortles looking good..great example. |
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 19, 2019 15:41:14 GMT -5
So we certainly shouldn’t be getting out the anointing oils at this point, but I did start the wonder - has a QB come in and looked as good as Jones has and then turned out to be a bust? I suppose the real question is, “is there any meaning to his start’? You mean other than RGIII ........................? Meh...I'm not saying he would have been great, but Shanahan certainly cost RGIII dearly. |
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Post by TEM on Aug 19, 2019 15:47:26 GMT -5
So we certainly shouldn’t be getting out the anointing oils at this point, but I did start the wonder - has a QB come in and looked as good as Jones has and then turned out to be a bust? I suppose the real question is, “is there any meaning to his start’? Leaf had a great preseason. Peyton did not. |
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 19, 2019 15:49:46 GMT -5
This involves some serious thinking. Would love to help but the brain clocked out at 3pm today. Get back at me at 7am tomorrow.
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 19, 2019 15:51:17 GMT -5
This involves some serious thinking. Would love to help but the brain clocked out at 3pm today. Get back at me at 7am tomorrow. That's exactly why I asked! |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 19, 2019 15:58:29 GMT -5
I think Blake Bortles looked legit in the preseason. I'd say he is a bust. I vaguely remember Bortles looking good..great example. I only remember since its my local market. Bortles had more buzz than DJ does. He was Ben Roethlisberger with wheels. |
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 19, 2019 15:59:35 GMT -5
I don't remember Mark Sanchez in preseason but he did look pretty good in his first two seasons. Sure he made mistakes, but he bounced back from them and they won a good share of games. I thought Ryan and the Jets did him no favors in helping him develop. And not to change the subject, but how many times would fans tell us that we would be in quarterback hell after Eli? It sure is not looking that way. haha remember when fans would say oh we will miss ELi and pointed to kent graham and dave brown. And I said this isnt the 90's , kids are coming out very athletic, we should be fine. In their defense, there was never a QB you didn't want to draft to replace Eli. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 19, 2019 16:00:03 GMT -5
I don't remember Mark Sanchez in preseason but he did look pretty good in his first two seasons. Sure he made mistakes, but he bounced back from them and they won a good share of games. I thought Ryan and the Jets did him no favors in helping him develop. And not to change the subject, but how many times would fans tell us that we would be in quarterback hell after Eli? It sure is not looking that way. Classic example of a qb that had to be hidden behind a great defense and run first,second and limit his attempts to 20 or under,that was always exposed by Super Bowl caliber teams when the Jets got down by 2 scores or more... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 19, 2019 16:00:23 GMT -5
haha remember when fans would say oh we will miss ELi and pointed to kent graham and dave brown. And I said this isnt the 90's , kids are coming out very athletic, we should be fine. In their defense, there was never a QB you didn't want to draft to replace Eli. Hee hee |
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Post by ukgiantsfan on Aug 19, 2019 16:01:38 GMT -5
Yep ........ another chap from Duke wearing #17 springs to mind
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 19, 2019 16:05:55 GMT -5
Yep ........ another chap from Duke wearing #17 springs to mind His rookie year was in 1992 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:07:58 GMT -5
haha remember when fans would say oh we will miss ELi and pointed to kent graham and dave brown. And I said this isnt the 90's , kids are coming out very athletic, we should be fine. In their defense, there was never a QB you didn't want to draft to replace Eli. there have been plenty i didnt like or want, but this was about after eli retired. All i would hear is how we wil suffer like the 70's or 90's and dave brown and yada yada yada |
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 19, 2019 16:11:10 GMT -5
In their defense, there was never a QB you didn't want to draft to replace Eli. there have been plenty i didnt like or want, but this was about after eli retired. All i would hear is how we wil suffer like the 70's or 90's and dave brown and yada yada yada I suppose there were a few dead quarterbacks you didn't think we should draft, but I can't recall a live one you didn't want |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 19, 2019 16:11:45 GMT -5
bottom line....
he looks good. Lets take it day by day, game by game, season by season.(hopefully)
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 19, 2019 16:15:27 GMT -5
bottom line.... he looks good. Lets take it day by day, game by game, season by season.(hopefully) Dont forget most importantly, beer by beer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:24:02 GMT -5
there have been plenty i didnt like or want, but this was about after eli retired. All i would hear is how we wil suffer like the 70's or 90's and dave brown and yada yada yada I suppose there were a few dead quarterbacks you didn't think we should draft, but I can't recall a live one you didn't want which you are incorrect yet again (you are having an off year), did you see me campaigning for haskins? And again has nothing to do with fans thinking we would be in QB hell after eli retired. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:24:27 GMT -5
this sounds crazy but i was almost glad for the fumbled football (well one time anyway lol) if only it took jones back down to earth and at the same time he played really well outside of his rookie mistakes. had he been 11 for 11 and perfect again id actually be more worried cause thats in the "too good to be true" realm. i dont think hes too good to be true, i just think hes good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:33:48 GMT -5
this sounds crazy but i was almost glad for the fumbled football (well one time anyway lol) if only it took jones back down to earth and at the same time he played really well outside of his rookie mistakes. had he been 11 for 11 and perfect again id actually be more worried cause thats in the "too good to be true" realm. i dont think hes too good to be true, i just think hes good. You were hoping Jones played poorly, so you would then realize it isn't all a dream?  |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Aug 19, 2019 16:55:54 GMT -5
I don't remember Mark Sanchez in preseason but he did look pretty good in his first two seasons. Sure he made mistakes, but he bounced back from them and they won a good share of games. I thought Ryan and the Jets did him no favors in helping him develop. And not to change the subject, but how many times would fans tell us that we would be in quarterback hell after Eli? It sure is not looking that way. I’ll admit Rosey that I was one of the people that were and kinda still is (he has looked good don’t get me wrong) saying we’ll be in QB hell after Eli not because I’m a homer but because statistically going from one franchise QB to another usually takes time. I mean look at how long it took the giants between Simms and Eli |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 19, 2019 17:03:13 GMT -5
I don't remember Mark Sanchez in preseason but he did look pretty good in his first two seasons. Sure he made mistakes, but he bounced back from them and they won a good share of games. I thought Ryan and the Jets did him no favors in helping him develop. And not to change the subject, but how many times would fans tell us that we would be in quarterback hell after Eli? It sure is not looking that way. I’ll admit Rosey that I was one of the people that were and kinda still is (he has looked good don’t get me wrong) saying we’ll be in QB hell after Eli not because I’m a homer but because statistically going from one franchise QB to another usually takes time. I mean look at how long it took the giants between Simms and Eli yep not an easy thing to aquire |
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Post by McCherry on Aug 19, 2019 17:04:25 GMT -5
Browning Nagle comes to mind.
And if you remember that name, you're old like me.
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Post by dannydimes8 on Aug 19, 2019 17:08:01 GMT -5
So we certainly shouldn’t be getting out the anointing oils at this point, but I did start the wonder - has a QB come in and looked as good as Jones has and then turned out to be a bust? I suppose the real question is, “is there any meaning to his start’? He’s facing 2nd and 3rd teamers. Look up stats guys like Mike Glennon, Brett Hundley, Ryan Finley, Matt Barkley are putting up in these games. It’s better then him sucking, but it’s like minor league football. Borderline meaningless. And he has 2 turnovers in a 1/2 of work. When he gets in real games his career begins. Rest of this is TBD training ground stuff. Can’t be analyzed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 17:12:26 GMT -5
So we certainly shouldn’t be getting out the anointing oils at this point, but I did start the wonder - has a QB come in and looked as good as Jones has and then turned out to be a bust? I suppose the real question is, “is there any meaning to his start’? He’s facing 2nd and 3rd teamers. Look up stats guys like Mike Glennon, Brett Hundley, Ryan Finley, Matt Barkley are putting up in these games. It’s better then him sucking, but it’s like minor league football. Borderline meaningless. And he has 2 turnovers in a 1/2 of work. When he gets in real games his career begins. Rest of this is TBD training ground stuff. Can’t be analyzed. He faced some first string guys his first preseason series. Dont try to downplay his progress please. With that name i didnt expect this post |
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 19, 2019 17:12:37 GMT -5
Browning Nagle comes to mind. And if you remember the name, you're old like me. Didn't the Jets pick him over Favre? |
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