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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 7:33:13 GMT -5
Ok, I admit I was wrong. I wanted DJ at 17 not 6. I wanted Bush at 6. The Giants obviously knew what they were doing at 6 and FBomb was on point about the kid from the start. However the negatives Nancy's and Ned's whined to high heaven Jones would be a bust or average at best. How's that crow taste? This kid is gonna be a star. Toughness - smarts - accuracy - class - knowledge - cool in the pocket - throws darts. He should start but he won't and I understand that. Let's see what Eli can or "can't" do first.
Slayton can't catch or run a pattern other than a fly or go. More negative Ned's and Nancy's crawled out of the woodwork about this guy. Well he's proven the naysayers wrong with a good camp and caught the first dart thrown to him in a game last night. I said he was a great pick and will score often. I'm sticking to it.
Kudo's to those who may not of supported the picks but had an open mind.
The belly achers from the start on draft day have been served up some Tum's trying to help digest the over indulgence of Crow.
I realize it's early but these two will continue to serve up Tum's to the draft day belly acher's.
I'm sticking with my draft day prediction that Connely will start at LB by mid season if not sooner.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 23, 2019 7:38:03 GMT -5
Ok, I admit I was wrong. I wanted DJ at 17 not 6. I wanted Bush at 6. The Giants obviously knew what they were doing at 6 and FBomb was on point about the kid from the start. However the negatives Nancy's and Ned's whined to high heaven Jones would be a bust or average at best. How's that crow taste? This kid is gonna be a star. Toughness - smarts - accuracy - class - knowledge - cool in the pocket - throws darts. He should start but he won't and I understand that. Let's see what Eli can or "can't" do first. Slayton can't catch or run a pattern other than a fly or go. More negative Ned's and Nancy's crawled out of the woodwork about this guy. Well he's proven the naysayers wrong with a good camp and caught the first dart thrown to him in a game last night. I said he was a great pick and will score often. I'm sticking to it. Kudo's to those who may not of supported the picks but had an open mind. The belly achers from the start on draft day have been served up some Tum's trying to help digest the over indulgence of Crow. I realize it's early but these two will continue to serve up Tum's to the draft day belly acher's. I'm sticking with my draft day prediction that Connely will start at LB by mid season if not sooner. DJ has had a very good presasson....will he be a star?...No one knows We know even less about Slayton
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 23, 2019 7:50:49 GMT -5
Wow. Crown the kid already after 3 preseason games... Get that yellow jacket ready.
I love what I have seen, but some of you guys are going overboard. We have to wait until he faces a true defense and exotic schemes, not in the preseason.
I will be gladly eating crow if he turns into a top QB in the league, you're damn skippy, but the over reactions on his preseason are a bit insane right now.
As for Slayton, my biggest issues with him were injury concerns and drops. He was a 5th rounder for a reason.
As for game 3, I will watch it today so I have no comment on that but from what I heard DJ looked good at what he was asked to do.
I know Eli is starting the season but I really hope they move on quickly once it goes south and dont wait for the season to be over.
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Post by TEM on Aug 23, 2019 7:51:03 GMT -5
Slayton was a 5th round draft pick . If he is on the team after year 3 . He had a successful career. Hate and a 5th rounder are the norm. Some expect all players to come out of the box at a high level no matter at what point they were drafted in
As far as DJ his book as still to be written. I do not believe anyone hates him . Most did and some still do, believed he was drafted too high. Or in the case of Carter he was the wrong skin color for his liking.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 7:51:33 GMT -5
Ok, I admit I was wrong. I wanted DJ at 17 not 6. I wanted Bush at 6. The Giants obviously knew what they were doing at 6 and FBomb was on point about the kid from the start. However the negatives Nancy's and Ned's whined to high heaven Jones would be a bust or average at best. How's that crow taste? This kid is gonna be a star. Toughness - smarts - accuracy - class - knowledge - cool in the pocket - throws darts. He should start but he won't and I understand that. Let's see what Eli can or "can't" do first. Slayton can't catch or run a pattern other than a fly or go. More negative Ned's and Nancy's crawled out of the woodwork about this guy. Well he's proven the naysayers wrong with a good camp and caught the first dart thrown to him in a game last night. I said he was a great pick and will score often. I'm sticking to it. Kudo's to those who may not of supported the picks but had an open mind. The belly achers from the start on draft day have been served up some Tum's trying to help digest the over indulgence of Crow. I realize it's early but these two will continue to serve up Tum's to the draft day belly acher's. I'm sticking with my draft day prediction that Connely will start at LB by mid season if not sooner. DJ has had a very good presasson....will he be a star?...No one knows We know even less about Slayton My post was aimed at the whiners who blasted the picks day one. If you don't see the star package DJ brings after his performance thus far - so be it. I respect your caution. I watched Slayton every week at Auburn so I guess I know more about him than the average fan. I knew the criticism was off target from the start. You and the others will come around.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 23, 2019 7:54:52 GMT -5
So far, so good. Our last four QB's we picked showed us why they couldn't play. This guy can play. It will take a few years to really see what we got. The sooner the better. We are just spinning our wheels with Eli. Eli can still play but the team isn't ready. Jones should grow with the team.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 7:58:28 GMT -5
Wow. Crown the kid already after 3 preseason games... Get that yellow jacket ready. I love what I have seen, but some of you guys are going overboard. We have to wait until he faces a true defense and exotic schemes, not in the preseason. I will be gladly eating crow if he turns into a top QB in the league, you're damn skippy, but the over reactions on his preseason are a bit insane right now. As for Slayton, my biggest issues with him were injury concerns and drops. He was a 5th rounder for a reason. As for game 3, I will watch it today so I have no comment on that but from what I heard DJ looked good at what he was asked to do. I know Eli is starting the season but I really hope they move on quickly once it goes south and dont wait for the season to be over. That was a respectful reply. I don't think he deserves the yellow jacket yet. I was referring to the skills he has exhibited thus far match what the Giants saw not what the doubters spouted. Anyone who watches Slayton 's highlight tape from Auburn knows the kid can catch the ball. Yes he has had drops. However every good receiver in the league doesn't have hands of glue. I think he was a 5th rounder because of skepticism about the system he was in not because he had some drops.
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Post by JPthePizz on Aug 23, 2019 7:58:47 GMT -5
People complained about a 5th round pick??
Also, I'm not christening Jones the 2nd coming of Christ after 3 preseason games. I really like what I've seen(we should all be very happy about it), but also I'm not stupid enough to think it's an adequate sample size. He's played about 1 game of NFL football against varying degrees of talent. There is no crow to eat, even if people hated him as the player, instead of the draft position.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 8:00:09 GMT -5
Slayton was a 5th round draft pick . If he is on the team after year 3 . He had a successful career. Hate and a 5th rounder are the norm. Some expect all players to come out of the box at a high level no matter at what point they were drafted in As far as DJ his book as still to be written. I do not believe anyone hates him . Most did and some still do, believed he was drafted too high. Or in the case of Carter he was the wrong skin color for his liking. That is a reasonable take on things.
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 23, 2019 8:00:28 GMT -5
Wow. Crown the kid already after 3 preseason games... Get that yellow jacket ready. I love what I have seen, but some of you guys are going overboard. We have to wait until he faces a true defense and exotic schemes, not in the preseason. I will be gladly eating crow if he turns into a top QB in the league, you're damn skippy, but t he over reactions on his preseason are a bit insane right now.As for Slayton, my biggest issues with him were injury concerns and drops. He was a 5th rounder for a reason. As for game 3, I will watch it today so I have no comment on that but from what I heard DJ looked good at what he was asked to do. I know Eli is starting the season but I really hope they move on quickly once it goes south and dont wait for the season to be over. But the overreaction when he was drafted was spot on.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 23, 2019 8:01:24 GMT -5
Wow. Crown the kid already after 3 preseason games... Get that yellow jacket ready. I love what I have seen, but some of you guys are going overboard. We have to wait until he faces a true defense and exotic schemes, not in the preseason. I will be gladly eating crow if he turns into a top QB in the league, you're damn skippy, but the over reactions on his preseason are a bit insane right now. As for Slayton, my biggest issues with him were injury concerns and drops. He was a 5th rounder for a reason. As for game 3, I will watch it today so I have no comment on that but from what I heard DJ looked good at what he was asked to do. I know Eli is starting the season but I really hope they move on quickly once it goes south and dont wait for the season to be over. That was a respectful reply. I don't think he deserves the yellow jacket yet. I was referring to the skills he has exhibited thus far match what the Giants saw not what the doubters spouted. Anyone who watches Slayton 's highlight tape from Auburn knows the kid can catch the ball. Yes he has had drops. However every good receiver in the league doesn't have hands of glue. I think he was a 5th rounder because of skepticism about the system he was in not because he had some drops. Its just way too early to create a thread saying "How does that crow taste!?" He has played less than a full game, in preseason, against a lot of backups. Slow it Down, as Shurmer would say.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 23, 2019 8:02:39 GMT -5
Wow. Crown the kid already after 3 preseason games... Get that yellow jacket ready. I love what I have seen, but some of you guys are going overboard. We have to wait until he faces a true defense and exotic schemes, not in the preseason. I will be gladly eating crow if he turns into a top QB in the league, you're damn skippy, but t he over reactions on his preseason are a bit insane right now.As for Slayton, my biggest issues with him were injury concerns and drops. He was a 5th rounder for a reason. As for game 3, I will watch it today so I have no comment on that but from what I heard DJ looked good at what he was asked to do. I know Eli is starting the season but I really hope they move on quickly once it goes south and dont wait for the season to be over. But the overreaction when he was drafted was spot on. No they werent. Chris Carter said the Giants were racist not taking Haskins over Jones. Most thought Jones was not a great pick. That is true.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 8:03:23 GMT -5
People complained about a 5th round pick?? Also, I'm not christening Jones the 2nd coming of Christ after 3 preseason games. I really like what I've seen(we should all be very happy about it), but also I'm not stupid enough to think it's an adequate sample size. He's played about 1 game of NFL football against varying degrees of talent. There is no crow to eat, even if people hated him as the player, instead of the draft position. Hmmm? I don't remember making any biblical references.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 23, 2019 8:05:28 GMT -5
I think most fans here are missing the real issue. This team is not going anywhere this year no matter how great Eli plays. The defense is young and non existent. The offense is a on going project. Jones should be in the mix, not with a clipboard.
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Post by JPthePizz on Aug 23, 2019 8:06:52 GMT -5
People complained about a 5th round pick?? Also, I'm not christening Jones the 2nd coming of Christ after 3 preseason games. I really like what I've seen(we should all be very happy about it), but also I'm not stupid enough to think it's an adequate sample size. He's played about 1 game of NFL football against varying degrees of talent. There is no crow to eat, even if people hated him as the player, instead of the draft position. Hmmm? I don't remember making any biblical references. It's a figure of speech. I could explain it to you, but I don't have the time or crayons to do so.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 23, 2019 8:07:43 GMT -5
But the overreaction when he was drafted was spot on. No they werent. Chris Carter said the Giants were racist not taking Haskins over Jones. Most thought Jones was not a great pick. That is true. Then Chris Carter is an asshole.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 8:09:30 GMT -5
That was a respectful reply. I don't think he deserves the yellow jacket yet. I was referring to the skills he has exhibited thus far match what the Giants saw not what the doubters spouted. Anyone who watches Slayton 's highlight tape from Auburn knows the kid can catch the ball. Yes he has had drops. However every good receiver in the league doesn't have hands of glue. I think he was a 5th rounder because of skepticism about the system he was in not because he had some drops. Its just way too early to create a thread saying "How does that crow taste!?" He has played less than a full game, in preseason, against a lot of backups. Slow it Down, as Shurmer would say. You and I think different on that but that's ok. Too early would of been making a eating crow post after going 5-5 in the first game. He's been on fire every time he's in. He's displaying remarkable everything so far ( except holding on to the ball ). The way he got blasted on day one - Crow may not be a main course right now but it certainly is currently being served as an appetizer.
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Post by bizcliz on Aug 23, 2019 8:10:01 GMT -5
I think most fans here are missing the real issue. This team is not going anywhere this year no matter how great Eli plays. The defense is young and non existent. The offense is a on going project. Jones should be in the mix, not with a clipboard. You don't know that until they actually play the games. That narrative is so ****ing annoying. "I think the team is going to blow, so **** any chance at them winning with Manning, just waive the flag and put in Jones" get the hell out of here with that
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 23, 2019 8:10:01 GMT -5
I think most fans here are missing the real issue. This team is not going anywhere this year no matter how great Eli plays. The defense is young and non existent. The offense is a on going project. Jones should be in the mix, not with a clipboard. And if that is true, you will see DJ sooner than later.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 23, 2019 8:10:32 GMT -5
Hmmm? I don't remember making any biblical references. It's a figure of speech. I could explain it to you, but I don't have the time or crayons to do so. Ah - that was a good one.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Aug 23, 2019 8:11:05 GMT -5
Ok, I admit I was wrong. I wanted DJ at 17 not 6. I wanted Bush at 6. The Giants obviously knew what they were doing at 6 and FBomb was on point about the kid from the start. However the negatives Nancy's and Ned's whined to high heaven Jones would be a bust or average at best. How's that crow taste? This kid is gonna be a star. Toughness - smarts - accuracy - class - knowledge - cool in the pocket - throws darts. He should start but he won't and I understand that. Let's see what Eli can or "can't" do first. Slayton can't catch or run a pattern other than a fly or go. More negative Ned's and Nancy's crawled out of the woodwork about this guy. Well he's proven the naysayers wrong with a good camp and caught the first dart thrown to him in a game last night. I said he was a great pick and will score often. I'm sticking to it. Kudo's to those who may not of supported the picks but had an open mind. The belly achers from the start on draft day have been served up some Tum's trying to help digest the over indulgence of Crow. I realize it's early but these two will continue to serve up Tum's to the draft day belly acher's. I'm sticking with my draft day prediction that Connely will start at LB by mid season if not sooner. Let’s not elect him to Canton after a couple of plays. I know what we have seen from the quarterback position has left a lot to be desired over the past few season but it’s preseason and most of the competition DJ is facing probably aren’t even good enough to be in the league. Let’s wait until he faces competition with legitimate nfl type players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:15:33 GMT -5
Far too soon for a "Crow eating" thread. And that is coming from ME!!! I want Jones to start game 1. I believe he is ready and gives us as much a chance to win (or better) as Eli. The o-line is still shaky (Hernandez looked bleak against a pro-bowl pass rusher) and the defense is young and STILL can't get off the field on 3rd down. This team isn't going to win a ton of games this year, so imo, it makes little sense to keep trotting Eli out there. Let the kid go through his rough patches sooner rather than later.
But, for the love of God, can we PLEASE put the brakes on calling people out for hating the pick?
That's coming.........I promise.
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 23, 2019 8:29:57 GMT -5
But the overreaction when he was drafted was spot on. No they werent. Chris Carter said the Giants were racist not taking Haskins over Jones. Most thought Jones was not a great pick. That is true. Oh...I understand people thought it was a bad pick...the reaction was ridiculous.
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Post by jtees4 on Aug 23, 2019 8:36:06 GMT -5
Well, I didn't know much about Jones before the draft, so I kind of felt it was probably a bad pick based on what I was hearing. BUT I do rememkber that same thing happening when Phil Simms was picked, and we all know how that worked out. Jones has looked good...all we can hope is that he turns out to be as good as he has looked so far. For the record, Lauletta still looks decent to me also, so that shows how little I know.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 23, 2019 8:48:42 GMT -5
Ok, I admit I was wrong. I wanted DJ at 17 not 6. I wanted Bush at 6. The Giants obviously knew what they were doing at 6 and FBomb was on point about the kid from the start. However the negatives Nancy's and Ned's whined to high heaven Jones would be a bust or average at best. How's that crow taste? This kid is gonna be a star. Toughness - smarts - accuracy - class - knowledge - cool in the pocket - throws darts. He should start but he won't and I understand that. Let's see what Eli can or "can't" do first. Slayton can't catch or run a pattern other than a fly or go. More negative Ned's and Nancy's crawled out of the woodwork about this guy. Well he's proven the naysayers wrong with a good camp and caught the first dart thrown to him in a game last night. I said he was a great pick and will score often. I'm sticking to it. Kudo's to those who may not of supported the picks but had an open mind. The belly achers from the start on draft day have been served up some Tum's trying to help digest the over indulgence of Crow. I realize it's early but these two will continue to serve up Tum's to the draft day belly acher's. I'm sticking with my draft day prediction that Connely will start at LB by mid season if not sooner. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 23, 2019 8:53:03 GMT -5
Slayton catches one pass on a go and he deserves a “told you so thread?” What next? I told you guys water is wet..
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Post by SG88 on Aug 23, 2019 8:54:14 GMT -5
Threads like this are funny as hell. If I were to guess, 90% of giants fans (including myself) were stunned when they drafted Jones where they did. It really was nothing against Jones at all. No one "hated" Jones. Even on here, I think that only one person (fbomb I think) was all in on Jones around draft time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 8:56:35 GMT -5
Threads like this are funny as hell. If I were to guess, 90% of giants fans (including myself) were stunned when they drafted Jones where they did. It really was nothing against Jones at all. No one "hated" Jones. Even on here, I think that only one person (fbomb I think) was all in on Jones around draft time. I was all in on Jones in December.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 23, 2019 9:05:57 GMT -5
Threads like this are funny as hell. If I were to guess, 90% of giants fans (including myself) were stunned when they drafted Jones where they did. It really was nothing against Jones at all. No one "hated" Jones. Even on here, I think that only one person (fbomb I think) was all in on Jones around draft time. I was all in on Jones in December. Correction, fbomb was all in on Jones several months before the draft. What made you buy into him at the time?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 23, 2019 9:09:56 GMT -5
Ok, I admit I was wrong. I wanted DJ at 17 not 6. I wanted Bush at 6. The Giants obviously knew what they were doing at 6 and FBomb was on point about the kid from the start. However the negatives Nancy's and Ned's whined to high heaven Jones would be a bust or average at best. How's that crow taste? This kid is gonna be a star. Toughness - smarts - accuracy - class - knowledge - cool in the pocket - throws darts. He should start but he won't and I understand that. Let's see what Eli can or "can't" do first. Slayton can't catch or run a pattern other than a fly or go. More negative Ned's and Nancy's crawled out of the woodwork about this guy. Well he's proven the naysayers wrong with a good camp and caught the first dart thrown to him in a game last night. I said he was a great pick and will score often. I'm sticking to it. Kudo's to those who may not of supported the picks but had an open mind. The belly achers from the start on draft day have been served up some Tum's trying to help digest the over indulgence of Crow. I realize it's early but these two will continue to serve up Tum's to the draft day belly acher's. I'm sticking with my draft day prediction that Connely will start at LB by mid season if not sooner. My first reaction was no, within 10 seconds I was like what do I really know after watching 2 Duke football games to see Jones. What I saw is what we are seeing but with far less talent around him against Clemson he took 6 to 8 of those hits he took last night and kept slinging accurate balls that were either dropped or at times receivers running the wrong routes. That said I started to feel much better and hoped it would translate so far it has. One other thing that I believe in and not many do is the Gettlemen /Shurmur team think they both have old school work ethic and are starting to show they have some new school thought process going on, I believe in the teams leadership from top to bottom and DGs /and Shurmurs talent evaluation skills especially Shurmur with QBs and DG with DL and OL where games are won.
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