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Post by bizcliz on Aug 23, 2019 10:53:25 GMT -5
Sorry for your loss, that sucks man How is that bias? Are we not allowed to poke fun at players, suddenly? Is hyperbole about players now all of a sudden banned when it comes to Jones?Do you not see the hypocrisy? Every word is not a diss - but there certainly are some assholic disses that are frankly disrespectful coming from anyone calling themselves a fan. Hell, you flipped out on someone 2 weeks ago before the Jets game and accused them of not supporting Jones because they didn't think he would have the best performance of the night. So don't come at me like that when you act the exact same way dude. I'm not "coming at you" in any way. I'm poking fun at your obvious bias. The thread you are talking about was in response to another member of the E-hive stating that there was no way Jones could have the best performance of the night because it's only preseason and he won't play the entire game. THAT is true for ALL players then, not just Jones. He went out of his way to point that out about Jones only. And ftr.....Jones went 5-5 with a TD and a perfect passer rating. In keeping with the spirit of that thread, he DID have the best performance of the night. I am not "acting" in any way. My loyalties lie with the TEAM and what is best for them. Playing Eli during a total rebuild makes no sense to me. The best thing is to let Jones learn and grow with the team sooner than later. Coming from one fan with an "obvious bias" to another one with an obvious Jones bias - hopefully you don't get as agitated as I do when Jones has a few stinkers and the usual suspects start slithering out of the woodworks to shit on him. It really ****ing pisses me off. He did have a great night, but you know that's not what the point was about - it was also not a big Eli guy - he's someone whose shat on both Manning and Jones. I'll leave it there. The best thing is to play the QB who leadership thinks gives us the best chance. Doesn't matter if it's Eli (probably is) or Jones, that's my guy this season. Rooting for one over the other is stupid to me |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 23, 2019 10:53:28 GMT -5
What a joke. The very first thing Carter does is bash Shurmur saying "you didn't see this player in college because he wasn't there. If he looked like this he would have been drafted earlier". Just because Chris Carter didn't see it does not mean that it wasn't there. I know I seen it. I know FBomb seen it. I know DG and Shurmur seen it. It was there if you looked for it. Carter is an idiot trying to mask being an idiot. ....by putting on an idiot mask. He just likes the sound of his own voice. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 23, 2019 10:54:36 GMT -5
I had to watch that twice. The first time I couldn't get past the spaghetti strap silk shirt. Carter didn't apologize for the racism accusation because he wants people to forget he ever said it. NOW, he's saying how much he respects the organization. What a clown. exacrtly |
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Post by soflo on Aug 23, 2019 10:56:55 GMT -5
Think Carter's "apology" was bad?
This from Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman.
I couldn't even get through the whole thing, it was that bad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 10:59:25 GMT -5
I'm not "coming at you" in any way. I'm poking fun at your obvious bias. The thread you are talking about was in response to another member of the E-hive stating that there was no way Jones could have the best performance of the night because it's only preseason and he won't play the entire game. THAT is true for ALL players then, not just Jones. He went out of his way to point that out about Jones only. And ftr.....Jones went 5-5 with a TD and a perfect passer rating. In keeping with the spirit of that thread, he DID have the best performance of the night. I am not "acting" in any way. My loyalties lie with the TEAM and what is best for them. Playing Eli during a total rebuild makes no sense to me. The best thing is to let Jones learn and grow with the team sooner than later. Coming from one fan with an "obvious bias" to another one with an obvious Jones bias - hopefully you don't get as agitated as I do when Jones has a few stinkers and the usual suspects start slithering out of the woodworks to shit on him. It really ****ing pisses me off. He did have a great night, but you know that's not what the point was about - it was also not a big Eli guy - he's someone whose shat on both Manning and Jones. I'll leave it there. The best thing is to play the QB who leadership thinks gives us the best chance. Doesn't matter if it's Eli (probably is) or Jones, that's my guy this season. Rooting for one over the other is stupid to me I don't have a Jones bias. He is the future franchise QB of this team and it would be BEST for this team to get him acclimated NOW instead of putting his development off for another year. I am under no delusion that this team is going to have a winning record no matter who is a QB. That's where the Eli bias comes into play. You guys think Eli is going to somehow magically put this team on his back and bring us back to the promise land. He's not. This team is too young and there are still too many holes to fill. Delaying Jones' development is not in the best interest of this team. |
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Post by bizcliz on Aug 23, 2019 11:00:44 GMT -5
Coming from one fan with an "obvious bias" to another one with an obvious Jones bias - hopefully you don't get as agitated as I do when Jones has a few stinkers and the usual suspects start slithering out of the woodworks to shit on him. It really ****ing pisses me off. He did have a great night, but you know that's not what the point was about - it was also not a big Eli guy - he's someone whose shat on both Manning and Jones. I'll leave it there. The best thing is to play the QB who leadership thinks gives us the best chance. Doesn't matter if it's Eli (probably is) or Jones, that's my guy this season. Rooting for one over the other is stupid to me I don't have a Jones bias. He is the future franchise QB of this team and it would be BEST for this team to get him acclimated NOW instead of putting his development off for another year. I am under no delusion that this team is going to have a winning record no matter who is a QB. That's where the Eli bias comes into play. You guys think Eli is going to somehow magically put this team on his back and bring us back to the promise land. He's not. This team is too young and there are still too many holes to fill. Delaying Jones' development is not in the best interest of this team. That's not bias, it's an opinion, don't get it twisted. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 11:03:17 GMT -5
I don't have a Jones bias. He is the future franchise QB of this team and it would be BEST for this team to get him acclimated NOW instead of putting his development off for another year. I am under no delusion that this team is going to have a winning record no matter who is a QB. That's where the Eli bias comes into play. You guys think Eli is going to somehow magically put this team on his back and bring us back to the promise land. He's not. This team is too young and there are still too many holes to fill. Delaying Jones' development is not in the best interest of this team. That's not bias, it's an opinion, don't get it twisted. No.....believing Eli is going to elevate his play and this team NOW after all these years of NOT elevating his play and this team defies logic. It's a totally bias opinion. |
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Post by bizcliz on Aug 23, 2019 11:05:12 GMT -5
That's not bias, it's an opinion, don't get it twisted. No.....believing Eli is going to elevate his play and this team NOW after all these years of NOT doing defies logic. It's a totally bias opinion. No, it's simply an opinion. Whether it's probably is different, but it's not bias. Bias is someone saying "Because I'm obsessed with Daniel Jones, I want Eli to fail" |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Aug 23, 2019 11:05:44 GMT -5
Ate a dose of humble pie this morning and admitted he was wrong about Jones (sort of). What I'd LIKE to see him do is apologize to the organization for his racial accusations. But since you can't get haters to eat that whole pie, I suppose it'll have to be good enough. Funny thing is if Jones flops he’ll probably be the first in line to say I told you so |
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 23, 2019 11:08:15 GMT -5
My God Fbomb... My sincere condolences you you. I am very sorry to hear about this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 11:11:35 GMT -5
No.....believing Eli is going to elevate his play and this team NOW after all these years of NOT doing defies logic. It's a totally bias opinion. No, it's simply an opinion. Whether it's probably is different, but it's not bias. Bias is someone saying "Because I'm obsessed with Daniel Jones, I want Eli to fail" Sorry, I know you don't see it. But, you don't see it because....well....you're biased. No one has said "I want Eli to fail". That's one of those bias hyperbolic responses I pointed out about you. That is your weakness that proves my point. Everything to you is considered a dis on Eli. Bias is holding onto your opinion despite evidence to the contrary. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 11:14:33 GMT -5
My God Fbomb... My sincere condolences you you. I am very sorry to hear about this.
Thx man. We bury her tomorrow. I finally had to pull myself away from all the sadness for a little while. My mother and other sister are complete wrecks. I haven't even seen my niece and nephew yet. They have been at their dad's house this whole time. Tomorrow is really going to be brutal. |
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 23, 2019 11:19:11 GMT -5
Think Carter's "apology" was bad? This from Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. I couldn't even get through the whole thing, it was that bad. Just one comment from Kellerman shows you all you need to know: Paraphrasing: "Since Jones was picked at 6 and he was the Giants guy, he better be in the hall of fame." Really - any QB picked at 6 or earlier needs be in the HOF? I this just a rule for the Giants? Cause there have been many that were complete busts. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 11:23:27 GMT -5
Think Carter's "apology" was bad? This from Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. I couldn't even get through the whole thing, it was that bad. Just one comment from Kellerman shows you all you need to know: Paraphrasing: "Since Jones was picked at 6 and he was the Giants guy, he better be in the hall of fame." Really - any QB picked at 6 or earlier needs be in the HOF? I this just a rule for the Giants? Cause there have been many that were complete busts. Kellerman is a dip shit. Anything he says can be applied to the dip shit category. |
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 23, 2019 11:25:00 GMT -5
Think Carter's "apology" was bad? This from Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman. I couldn't even get through the whole thing, it was that bad. Smith - he basically said he trashed the pick because Shurmur was the HC. You guys should have watched his debate yesterday with Spears concerning Lawrence Tayler...dude made a fool out of himself. You guys will thnk this is pure comedy |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 11:27:58 GMT -5
Didn't care about his earlier negative comments and still don't care about his newest ones..
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Post by jb456 on Aug 23, 2019 11:58:39 GMT -5
That's not bias, it's an opinion, don't get it twisted. No.....believing Eli is going to elevate his play and this team NOW after all these years of NOT elevating his play and this team defies logic. It's a totally bias opinion. First most important: You have my sincerest condolences for your loss. Second : would it be such a bad thing if Daniel Jones spends some time with Eli, seeing how he prepares, breaking down file and how he just conducts himself in general? The NFL is a lot harder than collage and Jones hasn't even see anything besides vanilla defenses and a mix of starters and backups. I am not of the thinking that you should just throw a rookie into the fire in one of the most cerebral positions in all of sports. Also, when do you think we will see this kids mobility? We haven't seen any of it yet and I am wondering if there is a reason for that.... |
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Post by Nite on Aug 23, 2019 12:06:04 GMT -5
is their something in the air in Florida? you don't make any sense - what bias are you talking about? I'm not in Florida. I'm not moving until the 9th. Currently I am in Kentucky for my little sister's funeral, who died during surgery this week. The bias stems from your hyperbolic responses to positive posts about Jones. To you, EVERY word is a dis to the Queen E. Hey man, I feel for you. I am tending to a dear friend who is very ill and it looks like she will make it, but its killing me and making me a complete wreck. I know its not the same as losing a sister but I understand. I'm with you in spirit.. |
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Post by McCherry on Aug 23, 2019 12:08:45 GMT -5
My God Fbomb... My sincere condolences you you. I am very sorry to hear about this.
Thx man. We bury her tomorrow. I finally had to pull myself away from all the sadness for a little while. My mother and other sister are complete wrecks. I haven't even seen my niece and nephew yet. They have been at their dad's house this whole time. Tomorrow is really going to be brutal. Condolences. |
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Post by Nite on Aug 23, 2019 12:09:20 GMT -5
What a joke. The very first thing Carter does is bash Shurmur saying "you didn't see this player in college because he wasn't there. If he looked like this he would have been drafted earlier". Just because Chris Carter didn't see it does not mean that it wasn't there. I know I seen it. I know FBomb seen it. I know DG and Shurmur seen it. It was there if you looked for it. I saw it too. Last fall.. These ass clowns are just lazy bi**ches who don't even bother to check out any tape |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 23, 2019 12:09:44 GMT -5
stephen A can be such a douche....
I usually like but when I hate him he deserves it....lol
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 23, 2019 12:16:40 GMT -5
No.....believing Eli is going to elevate his play and this team NOW after all these years of NOT elevating his play and this team defies logic. It's a totally bias opinion. First most important: You have my sincerest condolences for your loss. Second : would it be such a bad thing if Daniel Jones spends some time with Eli, seeing how he prepares, breaking down file and how he just conducts himself in general? The NFL is a lot harder than collage and Jones hasn't even see anything besides vanilla defenses and a mix of starters and backups. I am not of the thinking that you should just throw a rookie into the fire in one of the most cerebral positions in all of sports. Also, when do you think we will see this kids mobility? We haven't seen any of it yet and I am wondering if there is a reason for that.... If you noticed last night there was one "RPO" play where DJ ended up handing it off.
I think it's smart to keep his legs under wraps.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 23, 2019 12:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 13:15:41 GMT -5
Everyone in todays world is so fast to make their assumptions, and everyones opinion is gospel these days. i dont understand humans where arrogance and conceit continue to escalate with every generation. Why are humans so damn full of themselves? Or, why was everyone so certain of Daniel Jones' fate before he even stepped onto an NFL field? The word on the giants is how terrible we are, how bad the pick is, blah blah blah blah...
My god its going to be sweet to win
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 23, 2019 13:26:00 GMT -5
What a joke. The very first thing Carter does is bash Shurmur saying "you didn't see this player in college because he wasn't there. If he looked like this he would have been drafted earlier". Just because Chris Carter didn't see it does not mean that it wasn't there. I know I seen it. I know FBomb seen it. I know DG and Shurmur seen it. It was there if you looked for it. I saw it too. Last fall.. These ass clowns are just lazy bi**ches who don't even bother to check out any tape Yeah it is crazy. It's their job to watch film and know sports and they simply don't do it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 13:31:16 GMT -5
No.....believing Eli is going to elevate his play and this team NOW after all these years of NOT elevating his play and this team defies logic. It's a totally bias opinion. First most important: You have my sincerest condolences for your loss. Second : would it be such a bad thing if Daniel Jones spends some time with Eli, seeing how he prepares, breaking down file and how he just conducts himself in general? The NFL is a lot harder than collage and Jones hasn't even see anything besides vanilla defenses and a mix of starters and backups. I am not of the thinking that you should just throw a rookie into the fire in one of the most cerebral positions in all of sports. Also, when do you think we will see this kids mobility? We haven't seen any of it yet and I am wondering if there is a reason for that.... Thx...it truly is the worst thing I have ever been through. I don't think it would be "bad" for Jones to sit behind Eli for a year. I just don't want to waste a year of his development over some misnomer that this team is going to somehow be a contender with Eli at the helm. I don't believe we are at that point with the rest of the team yet. Jones is going to go through his growing pains just like the rest of the youngsters on this team. I'd rather he did that with them THIS year instead of next. The reason you haven't seen it is because there is No reason to show anyone that yet. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 23, 2019 13:42:36 GMT -5
Coming from one fan with an "obvious bias" to another one with an obvious Jones bias - hopefully you don't get as agitated as I do when Jones has a few stinkers and the usual suspects start slithering out of the woodworks to shit on him. It really ****ing pisses me off. He did have a great night, but you know that's not what the point was about - it was also not a big Eli guy - he's someone whose shat on both Manning and Jones. I'll leave it there. The best thing is to play the QB who leadership thinks gives us the best chance. Doesn't matter if it's Eli (probably is) or Jones, that's my guy this season. Rooting for one over the other is stupid to me I don't have a Jones bias. He is the future franchise QB of this team and it would be BEST for this team to get him acclimated NOW instead of putting his development off for another year. I am under no delusion that this team is going to have a winning record no matter who is a QB. That's where the Eli bias comes into play. You guys think Eli is going to somehow magically put this team on his back and bring us back to the promise land. He's not. This team is too young and there are still too many holes to fill. Delaying Jones' development is not in the best interest of this team. I agree with all of this but I personally feel it would be best to bring him in slowly I still feel designing a package of plays that fit him best getting him in for a.series a week and upping his dose as we go on would be the best..then get him in fulltime maybe after the bye |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 23, 2019 13:44:17 GMT -5
First most important: You have my sincerest condolences for your loss. Second : would it be such a bad thing if Daniel Jones spends some time with Eli, seeing how he prepares, breaking down file and how he just conducts himself in general? The NFL is a lot harder than collage and Jones hasn't even see anything besides vanilla defenses and a mix of starters and backups. I am not of the thinking that you should just throw a rookie into the fire in one of the most cerebral positions in all of sports. Also, when do you think we will see this kids mobility? We haven't seen any of it yet and I am wondering if there is a reason for that.... If you noticed last night there was one "RPO" play where DJ ended up handing it off.
I think it's smart to keep his legs under wraps.
They had Eli running RPO..and the fact he was out ahead of Gallman tells me he is going to keep it to the shock of everyone sometime early in the season.. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 13:45:44 GMT -5
I don't have a Jones bias. He is the future franchise QB of this team and it would be BEST for this team to get him acclimated NOW instead of putting his development off for another year. I am under no delusion that this team is going to have a winning record no matter who is a QB. That's where the Eli bias comes into play. You guys think Eli is going to somehow magically put this team on his back and bring us back to the promise land. He's not. This team is too young and there are still too many holes to fill. Delaying Jones' development is not in the best interest of this team. I agree with all of this but I personally feel it would be best to bring him in slowly I still feel designing a package of plays that fit him best getting him in for a.series a week and upping his dose as we go on would be the best..then get him in fulltime maybe after the bye If they commit to that, I'm totally on board. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 23, 2019 13:45:48 GMT -5
I'm not "coming at you" in any way. I'm poking fun at your obvious bias. The thread you are talking about was in response to another member of the E-hive stating that there was no way Jones could have the best performance of the night because it's only preseason and he won't play the entire game. THAT is true for ALL players then, not just Jones. He went out of his way to point that out about Jones only. And ftr.....Jones went 5-5 with a TD and a perfect passer rating. In keeping with the spirit of that thread, he DID have the best performance of the night. I am not "acting" in any way. My loyalties lie with the TEAM and what is best for them. Playing Eli during a total rebuild makes no sense to me. The best thing is to let Jones learn and grow with the team sooner than later. Coming from one fan with an "obvious bias" to another one with an obvious Jones bias - hopefully you don't get as agitated as I do when Jones has a few stinkers and the usual suspects start slithering out of the woodworks to shit on him. It really ****ing pisses me off.He did have a great night, but you know that's not what the point was about - it was also not a big Eli guy - he's someone whose shat on both Manning and Jones. I'll leave it there. The best thing is to play the QB who leadership thinks gives us the best chance. Doesn't matter if it's Eli (probably is) or Jones, that's my guy this season. Rooting for one over the other is stupid to me I call these idiots negatards |
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