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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2019 0:26:15 GMT -5
Really liking Wirfs Thing is Getty won't pull the trigger on an o lineman round 1 as his history has been either an impact playmaker on offense or defense... He will have at least 2 3rd round picks and probably early 4th..his historic sweet spot for o linemen. Yeah and add to that we don’t “need” a LT “right now”. We certainly need an X wr, which there seem to be a bunch of, and a pass rush, which there seems to be few of in this draft class. I guess we can hope 5-6 other OL play and test really well to move him down to rd. 2....but it’s doubtful. We do need a longterm answer at RT...Remmers isn't forever. I expect this is the one spot we spend in FA,especially with a new young QB,pay the price for an experienced good RT for the next 5 years
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 12, 2019 18:01:06 GMT -5
I agree. But I started looking at FA right tackles and, the market doesn’t seem as strong as I thought it would be. Daryl Williams with his knee. Jack Conklin with his knee. Germaine Ifeldi? Might be better off punting to 2021 for RT if Remmers is adequate.
Early yet, so we’ll see what shakes loose.
Walker Little had season ending knee surgery. I think it’s a dislocation? But can’t confirm that. I’d be ok with going with him in rd. 2 if he drops.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 19:50:22 GMT -5
Tristan Wirfs. Perfect target for DG in Rd. 2. I think we probably pick around 10th and 42nd. Jeudy probably gone. But Shenault or Reagor (sub 4.3 kid from TCU) will be there at 10. Wirfs at 42 to groom behind Solder for a year. Kenneth Murray or Joe Bachie at LB should be available at 74. Then you have another 3rd around 100, and a 4th for a guard project to replace Zietler in 2-3 years and a safety or a DL rotation guy. As if 9/3/2019 that’s my draft. Add a RT and a LB in FA, and we are truly in business. Not too familiar with Wirfs, but Iowa has been pretty successful producing OL, so thats working in his favor Here's what I found on walterfootball.com Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa Height: 6-5. Weight: 322. Projected 40 Time: 5.32. Projected Round (2020): 1-3. 8/17/19: Under head coach Kirk Ferentz, Iowa has produced a lot of good offensive line talent, so it was very noteworthy when Wirfs became the first true freshman to start at tackle under Ferentz. While being the regular starter on the right side, he did play left tackle in Iowa's bowl game to end his freshman campaign but was back at right tackle in 2018. Wirfs is a powerful right tackle who is a strong run blocker at the point of attack. He also has the quickness and athleticism to develop into a good pass protector. As a sophomore, Wirfs didn't allow a sack. Some NFL teams might consider moving him to left tackle. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2020OT.php#ixzz5yUznfhzqWirfs is an absolute monster in the weightroom...broke some school records held by another famed lineman...Brandon Scherff. Hang cleaning 450 for...4 freaking reps. That is INSANE. Check out some google on his wrestling. Guy cuts 40 pounds to get at 285. Oh, and he can play the position. dearoldgold.com/2019/09/12/iowa-football-tristan-wirfs-cementing-status-top-tackle-2020/Easily my favorite OT coming out.... and this is a deep class to get your franchise tackles.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2019 20:21:35 GMT -5
I agree. But I started looking at FA right tackles and, the market doesn’t seem as strong as I thought it would be. Daryl Williams with his knee. Jack Conklin with his knee. Germaine Ifeldi? Might be better off punting to 2021 for RT if Remmers is adequate. Early yet, so we’ll see what shakes loose. Walker Little had season ending knee surgery. I think it’s a dislocation? But can’t confirm that. I’d be ok with going with him in rd. 2 if he drops. Knee issues with linemen tend not to shorten careers the way they do with skill position players because we are talking about a position where it's all about strength and bullying the opponent. If Conklin is back to being good and Tennessee doesn't franchise him I'd pounce Williams already looks good. Invest the 55-60 million for 5 years and lock up the right side with an experienced RT.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2019 20:24:08 GMT -5
And Wirfs to me is the safest pick in this draft... I don't see a 15 year all pro but what I do see is an above average lunchpail guy that will get the job done at a high level and high effort and probably as a day one starter He actually prefers RT for some reason
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 12, 2019 21:28:51 GMT -5
And Wirfs to me is the safest pick in this draft... I don't see a 15 year all pro but what I do see is an above average lunchpail guy that will get the job done at a high level and high effort and probably as a day one starter He actually prefers RT for some reason Interesting. I didn’t know that about Wirfs. William on the left tonight and looks fine. Moton on the right looking pretty good too. Bucs really honing in on CM though. I like the idea of splurging a bit for a RT. It just makes sense. I’ll be watching Conklin a little more closely too. They gotta decide if they want to extend Mariota. Might effect the tag either way. I think I’ll try to start looking at LBs for the 2nd round, maybe safeties.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2019 21:38:13 GMT -5
And Wirfs to me is the safest pick in this draft... I don't see a 15 year all pro but what I do see is an above average lunchpail guy that will get the job done at a high level and high effort and probably as a day one starter He actually prefers RT for some reason Interesting. I didn’t know that about Wirfs. William on the left tonight and looks fine. Moton on the right looking pretty good too. Bucs really honing in on CM though. I like the idea of splurging a bit for a RT. It just makes sense. I’ll be watching Conklin a little more closely too. They gotta decide if they want to extend Mariota. Might effect the tag either way. I think I’ll try to start looking at LBs for the 2nd round, maybe safeties. Moton was the last Gettleman O line pick he made as he was canned right after the draft,someone i really liked coming out. If Williams is playing LT maybe hs plays RT for a year and moves over to LT,throw him a few extra $$ for this and we can maybe wait a year and maybe Big George gets another year and/or we take another T mid round.
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Post by lasion2 on Sept 12, 2019 21:46:39 GMT -5
Didn’t know that about Moton either, lol. He was pretty high though, 2nd round?
Williams got beat like a drum on that series, though.
What exactly do you want to do? Panthers to pay Moton to move left, and we scoop Williams?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2019 21:58:54 GMT -5
Didn’t know that about Moton either, lol. He was pretty high though, 2nd round? Williams got beat like a drum on that series, though. What exactly do you want to do? Panthers to pay Moton to move left, and we scoop Williams? Moton was an early 3rd round pick. Panthers will have to either give William's a big deal or replace him if he plays good I actually think William's is a better RT and only moved over because Moton is a RT only and they had nobody at LT after cutting Kahlil
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 13, 2019 14:25:42 GMT -5
Not too familiar with Wirfs, but Iowa has been pretty successful producing OL, so thats working in his favor Here's what I found on walterfootball.com Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa Height: 6-5. Weight: 322. Projected 40 Time: 5.32. Projected Round (2020): 1-3. 8/17/19: Under head coach Kirk Ferentz, Iowa has produced a lot of good offensive line talent, so it was very noteworthy when Wirfs became the first true freshman to start at tackle under Ferentz. While being the regular starter on the right side, he did play left tackle in Iowa's bowl game to end his freshman campaign but was back at right tackle in 2018. Wirfs is a powerful right tackle who is a strong run blocker at the point of attack. He also has the quickness and athleticism to develop into a good pass protector. As a sophomore, Wirfs didn't allow a sack. Some NFL teams might consider moving him to left tackle. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2020OT.php#ixzz5yUznfhzqWirfs is an absolute monster in the weightroom...broke some school records held by another famed lineman...Brandon Scherff. Hang cleaning 450 for...4 freaking reps. That is INSANE. Check out some google on his wrestling. Guy cuts 40 pounds to get at 285. Oh, and he can play the position. dearoldgold.com/2019/09/12/iowa-football-tristan-wirfs-cementing-status-top-tackle-2020/Easily my favorite OT coming out.... and this is a deep class to get your franchise tackles. ...Like good enough that we could possibly leave the draft with a starting LT AND RT
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 13, 2019 14:57:10 GMT -5
Wirfs is an absolute monster in the weightroom...broke some school records held by another famed lineman...Brandon Scherff. Hang cleaning 450 for...4 freaking reps. That is INSANE. Check out some google on his wrestling. Guy cuts 40 pounds to get at 285. Oh, and he can play the position. dearoldgold.com/2019/09/12/iowa-football-tristan-wirfs-cementing-status-top-tackle-2020/Easily my favorite OT coming out.... and this is a deep class to get your franchise tackles. ...Like good enough that we could possibly leave the draft with a starting LT AND RT Yeah if you ignore all the other needs we have (though BPA has a strange way of letting this happen) People have to start realizing though that Gettleman is not going to use a very high pick on an o lineman early in the 1st...his history says high impact playmaker on either side of the ball,especially offense
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 16:01:07 GMT -5
Wirfs is an absolute monster in the weightroom...broke some school records held by another famed lineman...Brandon Scherff. Hang cleaning 450 for...4 freaking reps. That is INSANE. Check out some google on his wrestling. Guy cuts 40 pounds to get at 285. Oh, and he can play the position. dearoldgold.com/2019/09/12/iowa-football-tristan-wirfs-cementing-status-top-tackle-2020/Easily my favorite OT coming out.... and this is a deep class to get your franchise tackles. ...Like good enough that we could possibly leave the draft with a starting LT AND RT Would be the smart thing to do...if Chase Young is gone, not sure we get our Josh Allen. Our easy schedule screams 6 wins. Giants falling into top 5 would create the trade back situation many have been wanting...some talented QB's could deem us getting that tackle and safety....and possible further desent into QB hell. Kase...start banging out some mocks...love to read them things and get some respected insight. ☺
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 13, 2019 16:36:47 GMT -5
Well,if we are are at 3 (I doubt it)and either Young or Jeudy are there(figure Miami takes a qb so at least one should be there ) and Gettleman sees another player "touched by the hand of god" trade back is the really smart thing to do.. And I'd do this Get back to 8 ish..get this year's 2nd and 4th,next year's 1st and a 2021 3rd(spread out draft assets so that we don't have all of them come up for new contracts at the same time while providing depth and future replacements)
Now let's see what we have this year 8th pick 2 early 2nds 2 3rds (1 early) 2 early 4ths.
Now let's go hypothetical Carter has a 7 sack year and looks good in year 2,1st as a starter X man gets 5 sacks in limited time Davis stabilizes and is less bust and steady with some boom plays Connelly looks good in limited time but doesn't see much action while Ogletree sucks. Secondary improves but still the occasional rookie mistake. Slayton is MIA with a chronic hammy and the rest of the recievers look like they do now (a pedestrian group of guys that are easy to defend) Jones looks good in his start Remmers back goes out again.
So my needs going into 2020 are longterm RT solution,(same as before week 1)number 1 dynamic playmaker to threaten defenses (same as after the draft)and depth elsewhere,edge rusher if one falls into my lap to bolster young group.
Gettleman doesn't draft linemen early and would probably not at 8 as he really has a long history of finding really good ones mid round,and having 2 2nds,3rds and 4ths is his prime area,and I think he would hit this spot in free agency,pay a young guy a big deal at RT
So now the only thing we are shopping hungry for is WR(and in addition to a legit one,I can't see them paying Latimer and Fowler again so we will need possibly 2) At 8 might be too rich for the next guy after Jeudy (Lamb to me is a pick 15-20 kinda guy as is Tee Higgins) But plenty of picks for all our needs in a BPA way
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 14, 2019 1:05:24 GMT -5
good thread
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2019 9:07:30 GMT -5
Right now it's kinda best to let the season play out before declaring what is a dire need and a need that can be addressed via BPA and value
The only position that is indeed a 2020 high priority need is a long term RT with Remmers only a stop gap because Big George got a head in week 2 of preseason..
Carter,Xman,Davis,Connelly,and Slayton will have a lot to say about this the next 15 games
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 16, 2019 11:22:23 GMT -5
...Like good enough that we could possibly leave the draft with a starting LT AND RT Would be the smart thing to do...if Chase Young is gone, not sure we get our Josh Allen. Our easy schedule screams 6 wins. Giants falling into top 5 would create the trade back situation many have been wanting...some talented QB's could deem us getting that tackle and safety....and possible further desent into QB hell. Kase...start banging out some mocks...love to read them things and get some respected insight. ☺ LOL, I tried to do a mock last week and I was SO out of the loop by the 3rd round I just ended it. With so many open positions of need there are ALOT of guys to start researching. Here's where I think we should start looking at positions OT- 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round WR- 1st, 2nd or 3rd round RB- 3rd round or later C- possibly for depth after the 3rd round, depending on how Pio continues to play ILB- 1st-7th round OLB- 1st- 7th round FS- 1st-7th round DL- Still not sure, we could always use depth, but im not sure what we got right now
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 16, 2019 11:27:13 GMT -5
Right now it's kinda best to let the season play out before declaring what is a dire need and a need that can be addressed via BPA and value The only position that is indeed a 2020 high priority need is a long term RT with Remmers only a stop gap because Big George got a head in week 2 of preseason.. Carter,Xman,Davis,Connelly,and Slayton will have a lot to say about this the next 15 games Why does everyone on here think Big George is going to be the RT of the future.... Wasnt he a 7th rounder or UDFA. Dont get me wrong, I HOPE he steps up and plays well above his draft position, but I feel like its not likely. Hell he hasnt even seen the field for 1 down. We need to look to the future for an RT, LT, WR, ILB, and FS. After that, there are a few positions that are possibly positions of need depending on what we see this year, like OLB and DL. There's alot of football left so im not going to write off any of our 1st or even 2nd year players, just yet
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Post by JPthePizz on Sept 16, 2019 15:24:41 GMT -5
Thomas out of UGA and Jeudy from 'Bama are the standouts to me so far, but I'm that SEC bias. Some more big games this weekend that i'll try to pay attention to the 'scouting reports' lol3
next year we're prob gonna need to go: passrush, WR, OL, in no particular order.
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 16, 2019 16:26:34 GMT -5
Thomas out of UGA and Jeudy from 'Bama are the standouts to me so far, but I'm that SEC bias. Some more big games this weekend that i'll try to pay attention to the 'scouting reports' lol3 next year we're prob gonna need to go: passrush, WR, OL, in no particular order. I was JUST gonna say LT Andrew Thomas from UGA is starting to shape up as my top OT prospect. I was getting intrigued by Tristian Wrifs, but his limited footage online didnt look great, not bad, but not great. Also it looks like he would be forced to be a RT or OG, im not sure he has the agility and recovery to make it at LT. While Jerry Jeudy looks kind of thin, MAN, he can play.. Id be totally on board with Thomas or Jeudy in the 1st
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Post by JPthePizz on Sept 16, 2019 16:56:49 GMT -5
Thomas out of UGA and Jeudy from 'Bama are the standouts to me so far, but I'm that SEC bias. Some more big games this weekend that i'll try to pay attention to the 'scouting reports' lol3 next year we're prob gonna need to go: passrush, WR, OL, in no particular order. I was JUST gonna say LT Andrew Thomas from UGA is starting to shape up as my top OT prospect. I was getting intrigued by Tristian Wrifs, but his limited footage online didnt look great, not bad, but not great. Also it looks like he would be forced to be a RT or OG, im not sure he has the agility and recovery to make it at LT. While Jerry Jeudy looks kind of thin, MAN, he can play.. Id be totally on board with Thomas or Jeudy in the 1st UGA plays Notre Dame this Saturday at 8. I think ND are paper tigers, but maybe it'll be an actual test for Thomas. we shall see
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:40:50 GMT -5
Would be the smart thing to do...if Chase Young is gone, not sure we get our Josh Allen. Our easy schedule screams 6 wins. Giants falling into top 5 would create the trade back situation many have been wanting...some talented QB's could deem us getting that tackle and safety....and possible further desent into QB hell. Kase...start banging out some mocks...love to read them things and get some respected insight. ☺ LOL, I tried to do a mock last week and I was SO out of the loop by the 3rd round I just ended it. With so many open positions of need there are ALOT of guys to start researching. Here's where I think we should start looking at positions OT- 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round WR- 1st, 2nd or 3rd round RB- 3rd round or later C- possibly for depth after the 3rd round, depending on how Pio continues to play ILB- 1st-7th round OLB- 1st- 7th round FS- 1st-7th round DL- Still not sure, we could always use depth, but im not sure what we got right now Hahaha, yeah, I am lost after the 3rd round myself ...watching those college games helps, as does the internet of course. I wonder, as it stands now...if we are sitting with a top 3-5 pick, with Young, Jeudy and Andrew Thomas (the way he has started this year is Greg Robinson like, wait what?), where would be go at pick 5? Pass rush, wide receiver or franchise left tackle? I gotta go Chase Young as the WR class is silly deep for a later pick...wide outs and their limited touches and wash out potential in any game simply does not stack up with this lacking everywhere Giants team...I need a three down get the QB difference maker on defense or a franchise left tackle before that fantasy freak. www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-justin-herbert-replaces-cam-newton-six-wide-receivers-in-round-1/Wirfs at pick 6 on this mock here....so much for getting him in the 2nd round...the scouts be scouting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:56:54 GMT -5
I was JUST gonna say LT Andrew Thomas from UGA is starting to shape up as my top OT prospect. I was getting intrigued by Tristian Wrifs, but his limited footage online didnt look great, not bad, but not great. Also it looks like he would be forced to be a RT or OG, im not sure he has the agility and recovery to make it at LT. While Jerry Jeudy looks kind of thin, MAN, he can play.. Id be totally on board with Thomas or Jeudy in the 1st UGA plays Notre Dame this Saturday at 8. I think ND are paper tigers, but maybe it'll be an actual test for Thomas. we shall see Lol...yeah...bulldogs 2 td favorites, and I'm giving the points. Damn, that O-line is huge for Georgia. Wyoming hosting Michigan might be a better game all things done.
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 17, 2019 8:50:53 GMT -5
LOL, I tried to do a mock last week and I was SO out of the loop by the 3rd round I just ended it. With so many open positions of need there are ALOT of guys to start researching. Here's where I think we should start looking at positions OT- 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round WR- 1st, 2nd or 3rd round RB- 3rd round or later C- possibly for depth after the 3rd round, depending on how Pio continues to play ILB- 1st-7th round OLB- 1st- 7th round FS- 1st-7th round DL- Still not sure, we could always use depth, but im not sure what we got right now Hahaha, yeah, I am lost after the 3rd round myself ...watching those college games helps, as does the internet of course. I wonder, as it stands now...if we are sitting with a top 3-5 pick, with Young, Jeudy and Andrew Thomas (the way he has started this year is Greg Robinson like, wait what?), where would be go at pick 5? Pass rush, wide receiver or franchise left tackle? I gotta go Chase Young as the WR class is silly deep for a later pick...wide outs and their limited touches and wash out potential in any game simply does not stack up with this lacking everywhere Giants team...I need a three down get the QB difference maker on defense or a franchise left tackle before that fantasy freak. www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-justin-herbert-replaces-cam-newton-six-wide-receivers-in-round-1/Wirfs at pick 6 on this mock here....so much for getting him in the 2nd round...the scouts be scouting. WOW, they think we will be picking as late as 5th. Good for them, LOL, smh...... If we walk away with Jeudy, Thomas, or Young Id be totally satisfied
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 17, 2019 10:05:49 GMT -5
I'm not going to assign a position to a draft slot because that is how you reach. And again we have 14 games for things to change,especially on defense,as I'm confident they will start to gell...
I'll put it in tiers
1.No solution on roster Future long term RT
Thing is Gettleman will not spend his top pick in a draft on an o lineman,he gets his historically rounds 3-5 with the outleir being Hernandez.. So sadly Wirfs I feel isn't going to be taken by us
Longshot but "maybe " Dynamic number 1 reciever Unless Slayton gets healthy and shows he can affect defenses to pull players out of the box(the Buffalo game is exactly what I predicted would happen)this is a huge priority..value could fit need early
Wait and see before hitting panic button Pass rusher... Carter seemed to have a good game and Xman is young,these guys take 2 to 3 years to develop. Value could be an overwhelming BPA you can't pass up depending on how early we pick
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 17, 2019 15:24:04 GMT -5
Watched some footage of Walker Little OT from Stanford and while he looks like he could be a nice pick, I HATE that if he feels he's getting beat, he goes for the Ereck Flowers patented leg trip. Thats gonna cost him a TON of yards in the pros
So far my top OTs have gotta be;
1. Andrew Thomas, UGA 2. Tristian Wrifs, Iowa 3. Calvin Throckmorton, Oregon 4. Walker Little, Stanford
...Knowing DG, we wont be looking at a OT til at least round 3, smh.... Solder isnt gonna be here forever, and if we get a full year out of Remmers id be happy. Everyone keeps saying how Defense is our top need, and it MAY be, but we cant sell ourselves short when it comes to the OL
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 18, 2019 14:48:59 GMT -5
Just watched.......
UGA vs Bama in the SEC championship last year while focusing on Andrew Thomas, and forget becoming my favorite OT, he's becoming 1 of my favorite picks regardless of position. Dude is strong, agile, has great length, excellent lateral movement, VERY good at pass pro AND run blocking. Dude plays shut down football until 1 play in the 4th qtr when Quinnen Williams gets him with the stunt, but other than that he was near perfect all game
I know DG doesnt do OL high in the 1st, but this guy would be a PHENOMENAL addition. He could start day 1 at LT, but would most likely hold down the RT spot until we are done with Solder. Wouldnt it be nice to have a QB and LT that could grow together for the next 20yrs
Jeudy and Young are the flashy names.... start remembering the name Andrew Thomas, LT, number 71 from Georgia
....Dont get me wrong Id LOVE to get Jeudy or Young in the 1st, but im putting Thomas' name in that group as well
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 20, 2019 9:38:34 GMT -5
Who do YOU want Danny Dimes throwing the ball to next season
Jerry Jeuddy
Viska Shenault
Jalen Reagor
CeeDee Lamb
Tee Higgins
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 20, 2019 10:45:40 GMT -5
Forget QB's this draft is STOCKED with 1st round WR talent......
Could it be that DG KNEW this and planned accordingly by taking a QB last year instead of joining the mad rush in 2020
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 15:10:53 GMT -5
Forget QB's this draft is STOCKED with 1st round WR talent...... Could it be that DG KNEW this and planned accordingly by taking a QB last year instead of joining the mad rush in 2020 Yep...we were talking about that last year...awaiting for this deep WR class. There was a poster who was high on Marquise Brown last year, and so far this year Jackson and he are connecting quite well. He was a late first, but you wonder if it was anybody but Gettleman would we have Hollywood or the 350 pound DT. It would be great to get that franchise left tackle as you suggest, and the go/throw to guy for Jones. All we can do to make him succeed...laughing at Josh Rosen and his situation as now 2 teams do everything to make him...well, not succeed. I would not mind any of these WR's...Jeudy looks to be the only one top five worthy...sort of a can't miss type prospect. I don't like picking 10 touch players top five...I'd still go OT or Edge in the top five. A trade back might get us both positions set for a while.
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 20, 2019 16:28:30 GMT -5
Forget QB's this draft is STOCKED with 1st round WR talent...... Could it be that DG KNEW this and planned accordingly by taking a QB last year instead of joining the mad rush in 2020 Yep...we were talking about that last year...awaiting for this deep WR class. There was a poster who was high on Marquise Brown last year, and so far this year Jackson and he are connecting quite well. He was a late first, but you wonder if it was anybody but Gettleman would we have Hollywood or the 350 pound DT. It would be great to get that franchise left tackle as you suggest, and the go/throw to guy for Jones. All we can do to make him succeed...laughing at Josh Rosen and his situation as now 2 teams do everything to make him...well, not succeed. I would not mind any of these WR's...Jeudy looks to be the only one top five worthy...sort of a can't miss type prospect. I don't like picking 10 touch players top five...I'd still go OT or Edge in the top five. A trade back might get us both positions set for a while. It was me, LOL. I was really high on Hollywood Brown AND L-Jax.... Maybe I should retire from the union and get a job as a scout, LMAO As for Rosen, who knows maybe they are building something from the ground up. We will see if they draft a WR or OT or another QB, who knows, Miami is a mess right now. If we could trade down MAYBE we could get someone like Thomas AND 1 of the top WRs that I mentioned since Im sure there will be a big run on QBs Jeudy is excellent, but who knows who the 2nd best guy will be, there are alot of options
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