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Post by piddy283 on Aug 31, 2019 0:43:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't give him a Pat on the back just yet. (pun intended) Let him show he can win some games first. I wanted Allen and Lawrence. Still love that combo. I did not want Jones in the first, period. Hated the pick. I compared him to Finley. Go Pack. The kid looks good. Even if it is preseason, or even if he doesn't start a down in 2019, he's exceeded my expectations. Don't mind eating that. Crap This was supposed to be to the one when you were rolling around laughing on your floor out loud.
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Post by dannydimes8 on Aug 31, 2019 6:34:14 GMT -5
Lip service from Belichick. Coaches have one resume. Their record. You can see the job they are doing by looking at the W and the L column. When Shurnur’s showing steady improvements in those areas he’s doing a good job. When we have a great record he’s doing a great job. Doug Pedersen has done a great job in Philly.
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Post by smitty on Aug 31, 2019 7:17:41 GMT -5
Lol, useless praise from Belichick. Essentially, hey look their scrubs beat our scrubs after they spotted us 19.
Bill knows we are on the schedule this year.
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Post by lasion2 on Aug 31, 2019 7:46:33 GMT -5
Thanks Bill. See you in a 2 months.
I would retire with Brady if I were him. Legacy intact as the GOAT coach. Then I’d go coach high school and charge 1000$ a head to some camps.
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 31, 2019 10:28:03 GMT -5
Lol, useless praise from Belichick. Essentially, hey look their scrubs beat our scrubs after they spotted us 19. Bill knows we are on the schedule this year. So just to confirm that I understand everything correctly...
a) If someone criticizes the Giants (ie. the Daniel Jones pick) they just hate the Giants and/or are trying to defend a prior statement that they made.
b) If someone (ie. Belichick) praises something about the Giants, they are lying.
Do I have it right?
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Post by giants8493 on Aug 31, 2019 13:11:15 GMT -5
I just want to see this team block and tackle for once.... Is that so much to ask?
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 31, 2019 13:17:10 GMT -5
I hope BB is our next coach , when Kraft decides to keep brady. I doubt BB will allow Kraft to make the decision on when he leaves. I think he's implying that if Kraft forces his will on Belichick like he did previously by forcing him to trade Garrapolo instead of Brady, Belichick will quit.
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Post by magilla on Sept 1, 2019 11:26:38 GMT -5
I doubt BB will allow Kraft to make the decision on when he leaves. I think he's implying that if Kraft forces his will on Belichick like he did previously by forcing him to trade Garrapolo instead of Brady, Belichick will quit. Have these reports that Robert Kraft forced Bellichek to trade Jimmy Garapolo been verified? I find it hard to fathom that Bellichek is forced to do anything.
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 1, 2019 12:06:21 GMT -5
I think he's implying that if Kraft forces his will on Belichick like he did previously by forcing him to trade Garrapolo instead of Brady, Belichick will quit. Have these reports that Robert Kraft forced Bellichek to trade Jimmy Garapolo been verified? I find it hard to fathom that Bellichek is forced to do anything. Of course not and they likely never will be. So, exactly like every other "everybody knows" NFL story.
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Post by Nullusion on Sept 1, 2019 12:59:34 GMT -5
Glad he's earned his respect from his peers. Now it's time to take that next step and win. Expectations are low right now and shouldn't take much to exceed them. I just hope Shurmur gets a fair chance after we move on from Eli Manning and he has his QB (Jones), his offensive line patched up, and his defense fully transitioned to the 3-4.
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 3, 2019 13:01:22 GMT -5
The one that got away. Id like to wormhole to a parallel universe and see what this team would be like if BB became the HC in the 90s. He would be 40 years with the organization and having countless amounts of rings and power. Belichick was a failure his first HC run. The Jets are the team that really let him get away. The Jets have let a lot of good coaches/players slip thru their butter fingers since the 90s. They could have had Marino instead they picked a RB I believe.
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Post by Zimonami on Sept 3, 2019 13:10:36 GMT -5
Belichick has always had a warm spot for the Giants. As for Shurmur, I won't go that far to what Bill said, but the one thing that is clear he has his team playing like a team. And they're playing hard for him. I'm convinced Parcells waited until Belichick took another job to retire. Belichick should have been this team's coach since 1991. Would've been the modern day Landry. Waited until after BB left, and then recommended Ray Handley as his replacement; he recommended Ray Handley as the best next coach.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 3, 2019 13:15:32 GMT -5
Belichick was a failure his first HC run. The Jets are the team that really let him get away. The Jets have let a lot of good coaches/players slip thru their butter fingers since the 90s. They could have had Marino instead they picked a RB I believe. Kenny O'Brian. They picked another QB over Marino.
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Sept 4, 2019 7:40:02 GMT -5
“I think Coach Shurmur’s done a great job down there, really returning to fundamentals, basics, and you can certainly see that in their play in all three phases of the game.”
The way Shurmur speaks to the team makes me respect him as a person and I agree with basically everything he says( from what is clipped for fans). It’s the type of stuff, good honest lessons that you would want your coach at high school and college level instilling in the team. Good lessons as adults too, but these guys rarely take a team all the way. I hope Shurmur bucks the trend. Would be great to see a nice guy finish first.
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Post by idkaname on Sept 4, 2019 8:00:43 GMT -5
Belichick was a failure his first HC run. The Jets are the team that really let him get away. It was the Browns. Everyone is a failure. In fact, the last time the Browns were a playoff team was under Belichick so I wouldn't say it was a complete failure, it's just the Browns. You watch, they will Brown this window up too. Honestly, if the browns go 8-8 that's a good season, no clue why people expect them to even be playoff contenders. I get it odell, chubb, baker blah blah blah…FA winners rarely do well...dream team anyone? Not to mention Odell isn't the same player he use to be, chubb is largely unproven to be a lead back, and baker turns the ball over. Lastly...maybe im wrong about their offense and they light it up, still places them around 8-8 with that below-avg defense(which had a lucky year in the turnover department #2 most, hard to repeat that) I'd love to be wrong because their fans deserve some cheers but as of now, I gotta laugh at "superbowl contenders" being attached to them. Bold prediction: Bengal's have better year/record.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 4, 2019 8:04:01 GMT -5
The one that got away. Id like to wormhole to a parallel universe and see what this team would be like if BB became the HC in the 90s. He would be 40 years with the organization and having countless amounts of rings and power. Belichick was a failure his first HC run. The Jets are the team that really let him get away. Yeah, this is not true at all.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 4, 2019 8:11:06 GMT -5
how many coaches have the Giants "let get away" that wound up sucking or never heard from again.
BB may or may have duplicated his career IF he stayed at the NYGs. My guess is he woudl have had the amount of success because pieces need to be together and Brady is a huge part of that success. Same with the Pats....Brady without BB would still be a very good to great QB but not what he is now.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 4, 2019 8:27:01 GMT -5
Belichick was a failure his first HC run. The Jets are the team that really let him get away. The Jets have let a lot of good coaches/players slip thru their butter fingers since the 90s. They could have had Marino instead they picked a RB I believe. Ken O'Brein(who actually wasn't bad if you remember...his problem was that he was picked instead of Marino) But letting Pete Carroll go after one year because Leon Hess had to rush to hire Rich Kotite That pretty much sums up the Jets since 1969
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 4, 2019 8:29:34 GMT -5
how many coaches have the Giants "let get away" that wound up sucking or never heard from again. BB may or may have duplicated his career IF he stayed at the NYGs. My guess is he woudl have had the amount of success because pieces need to be together and Brady is a huge part of that success. Same with the Pats....Brady without BB would still be a very good to great QB but not what he is now. Well Landry and Lombardi were 2 that I'm sure the ghosts of Wellington Mara regret getting away
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 4, 2019 8:43:52 GMT -5
how many coaches have the Giants "let get away" that wound up sucking or never heard from again. BB may or may have duplicated his career IF he stayed at the NYGs. My guess is he woudl have had the amount of success because pieces need to be together and Brady is a huge part of that success. Same with the Pats....Brady without BB would still be a very good to great QB but not what he is now. BB would not have the dual GM/HC role if he were with the Giants. So it's impossible to tell how successful he would be here, but probably less successful.
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Post by scoostraw on Sept 4, 2019 9:30:39 GMT -5
how many coaches have the Giants "let get away" that wound up sucking or never heard from again. BB may or may have duplicated his career IF he stayed at the NYGs. My guess is he woudl have had the amount of success because pieces need to be together and Brady is a huge part of that success. Same with the Pats....Brady without BB would still be a very good to great QB but not what he is now. BB would not have the dual GM/HC role if he were with the Giants. So it's impossible to tell how successful he would be here, but probably less successful. IIRC George Young did not think Belichick was head coaching material, so he would never have been the Giants' HC in any case.
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 4, 2019 10:01:49 GMT -5
The late Mr Young was an idiot to think that. Ray Handly & Coach menu are the 2 worst Giants HCs I've seen in my time as a Giants fan
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Post by GameTime on Sept 4, 2019 10:13:22 GMT -5
how many coaches have the Giants "let get away" that wound up sucking or never heard from again. BB may or may have duplicated his career IF he stayed at the NYGs. My guess is he woudl have had the amount of success because pieces need to be together and Brady is a huge part of that success. Same with the Pats....Brady without BB would still be a very good to great QB but not what he is now. Well Landry and Lombardi were 2 that I'm sure the ghosts of Wellington Mara regret getting away if crystal balls were only a real thing.... oh well......
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Post by GameTime on Sept 4, 2019 10:20:21 GMT -5
how many coaches have the Giants "let get away" that wound up sucking or never heard from again. BB may or may have duplicated his career IF he stayed at the NYGs. My guess is he woudl have had the amount of success because pieces need to be together and Brady is a huge part of that success. Same with the Pats....Brady without BB would still be a very good to great QB but not what he is now. it's impossible to tell how successful he would be herethis is all you needed to post....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 12:54:59 GMT -5
Greatness is a perfect storm and in football boy is it myriad of factors all coming together. We see how hard it is to simply sustain a winning team, much less a team consistently winning championships. Our two N.E. SB victories are the most astonishing thing beyond ne themselves in the past couple decades
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Post by GameTime on Sept 4, 2019 12:59:43 GMT -5
Greatness is a perfect storm and in football boy is it myriad of factors all coming together. We see how hard it is to simply sustain a winning team, much less a team consistently winning championships. Our two N.E. SB victories are the most astonishing thing beyond ne themselves in the past couple decades just as odd is how poor the other teams int he AFC East division have been for the most part during BB and Brady's tenure
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Post by jmike on Sept 4, 2019 13:08:40 GMT -5
Greatness is a perfect storm and in football boy is it myriad of factors all coming together. We see how hard it is to simply sustain a winning team, much less a team consistently winning championships. Our two N.E. SB victories are the most astonishing thing beyond ne themselves in the past couple decades just as odd is how poor the other teams int he AFC East division have been for the most part during BB and Brady's tenure starting the season 0-2 has probably put a damper on any potential success
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 9, 2020 12:58:12 GMT -5
Isn't it ironic, he feels Pat did a good job, then gets his buddy hired?
Maybe Bill will hire Shurmur after McDaniels leaves.
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Post by scoostraw on Jan 9, 2020 13:10:50 GMT -5
Belichick always praises his upcoming opponent.
Always.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Jan 9, 2020 13:16:31 GMT -5
great bump of Bellichick blowing smoke
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