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Post by TCHOF on Aug 10, 2018 18:27:03 GMT -5
Unreal - Mac gets ridiculed for not playing the kid and then the kid gets blamed for his play. The fans are ridiculous. Um, how are these things inconsistent?
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Post by Zimonami on Aug 10, 2018 19:08:24 GMT -5
I’d feel better if he blamed himself he did... he said he had the jitters... that's admitting a problem. He didn't say he felt great, or he thought he played well. Saying you have the jitters is a valid reason for playing bad. I was a QB in HS and remember feeling the jitters a few times, and each time I wasn't able to relax and see the plays flowing smoothly. The plays and the players were racing at 100mph in my eyes. One time I missed my WR who was wide open and he came back and looked in my eyes and smiled and said, "Relax". I took a deep breath, knew I could be better and was good the rest of the game. I give him a pass, this week.
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Post by Zimonami on Aug 10, 2018 19:12:04 GMT -5
Eli has more than once looked like an idiot over the years. Give Webb a break. He needs experience. He probably hopes to be traded to a team where he can start. I would. If Eli gets knocked out the season is over. Kaput. No backup (unless he's Earl Morall) is going to take the team to the SB. Hostetler didn't let us down.
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Post by Merc on Aug 10, 2018 19:17:07 GMT -5
He seemed to settle down at the end. Let's see how he does next week.
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Post by sanddc178 on Aug 10, 2018 19:51:54 GMT -5
I, for one, believe him. He overthrew damn near everything but seemed to settle down towards the end.
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Post by GMenNY21 on Aug 10, 2018 19:52:56 GMT -5
Meanwhile Darnold looking good , perfectly executing a 2 minute drill. Albeit vs a 2nd string falcon D
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Post by ocgiant on Aug 10, 2018 20:14:01 GMT -5
Add that to the nickname post "Jitters" Webb... having drafted Lauletta seems to be a good move so far... still will need to find the franchise QB of the future for the Giants
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Post by nysports98 on Aug 10, 2018 21:02:38 GMT -5
Unreal - Mac gets ridiculed for not playing the kid and then the kid gets blamed for his play. The fans are ridiculous. You must be new to following sports. Fans are fans yet some some have a blind spot in inch they can't recognize their own hypocrisy
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Post by nysports98 on Aug 10, 2018 21:03:29 GMT -5
Unreal - Mac gets ridiculed for not playing the kid and then the kid gets blamed for his play. The fans are ridiculous. Um, how are these things inconsistent? The blind can't see the hypocrisy
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Aug 10, 2018 21:15:19 GMT -5
Shurmur seems to support the Jitters claim. This kid has been chomping at the bit to prove himself, the jitters claim makes sense to me.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 10, 2018 21:19:29 GMT -5
Yea but it's his first time under fire in the nfl. Lets see how his timing is in his 2nd time out. Hopefully he doesn't move his feet as much and he doesn't rush his passes.
My first time up in little league I struck out, my 2nd time up I doubled . Just sayin we got time to straiten him out a little. And he's not going to play anyway.
He played in the preseason last year Yea OK, I'm not really expecting anything great so maybe my own expectations are lower than most. We'll see, he's going to get playing time I would think every game in pre season.
Hey TC did you like my little league story ? You know it's true. I thought it was kind of cute. Even though I knew it was kind of simplistic.
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Post by cdngfan on Aug 11, 2018 0:57:17 GMT -5
his performance is no reason to panic, but last year's idea that 'we didn't know what we have in Webb because he didn't start' seems more and more a myth: he's a development QB. That was his reputation coming out of college, that was why he was red shirted last year, and that's why other than hope or teammate supportive quotes there's no evidence that he's our next starter (yet).
Maybe he develops and becomes that player, but i've always maintained that you don't need starts to figure out where he's at right now, and it seems as if they've always had a good handle on who Webb is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 1:55:53 GMT -5
He made no excuses. He knows he didn’t do all he could have. Maybe he he just isn’t NFL material. Guess we’ll find out. BTW.... Webb is not the reason they didn’t draft a QB Then who is? In a year or two we're not going to have one at all
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Post by jaymas on Aug 11, 2018 7:26:32 GMT -5
This is suuuuuper dramatic. It is completely illogical to write the kid off after 2 quarters. I don't think it is. He should be able to display basic skills. Look at the poise the rookie Mayfield showed. Where we're his jitters And what if Mayfield struggles next game and Webb doesn't? What if Mayfield struggles when the other team gameplans too and Webb plays great? All of these things are possible. To use one game to make a qualitative assessment on any player is silly.
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 7:30:33 GMT -5
I don't think it is. He should be able to display basic skills. Look at the poise the rookie Mayfield showed. Where we're his jitters And what if Mayfield struggles next game and Webb doesn't? What if Mayfield struggles when the other team gameplans too and Webb plays great? All of these things are possible. To use one game to make a qualitative assessment on any player is silly. Mayfield's Offense punted twice when the Giants 1 team D-line was in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 7:34:16 GMT -5
And what if Mayfield struggles next game and Webb doesn't? What if Mayfield struggles when the other team gameplans too and Webb plays great? All of these things are possible. To use one game to make a qualitative assessment on any player is silly. Mayfield's Offense punted twice when the Giants 1 team D-line was in the game. You mean against the same d line Taylor threw his TD pass?
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 7:39:24 GMT -5
Mayfield's Offense punted twice when the Giants 1 team D-line was in the game. You mean against the same d line Taylor threw his TD pass? As it was stated The browns were playing to win the game. The Giants were establishing the basics that were lacking last season. The D-line was not ran against. They were last year, The O-line improved. We ran the ball I am not concerned about a pass rush of pass coverage at this point in the season. IMO I do not want our 1st team going at 100% . It proves nothing and can get them hurt.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 11, 2018 7:57:01 GMT -5
You mean against the same d line Taylor threw his TD pass? As it was stated The browns were playing to win the game. The Giants were establishing the basics that were lacking last season. The D-line was not ran against. They were last year, The O-line improved. We ran the ball I am not concerned about a pass rush of pass coverage at this point in the season. IMO I do not want our 1st team going at 100% . It proves nothing and can get them hurt. Are you suggesting that when our first team is out there, they are not going 100%?
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Post by nysports98 on Aug 11, 2018 8:05:41 GMT -5
As it was stated The browns were playing to win the game. The Giants were establishing the basics that were lacking last season. The D-line was not ran against. They were last year, The O-line improved. We ran the ball I am not concerned about a pass rush of pass coverage at this point in the season. IMO I do not want our 1st team going at 100% . It proves nothing and can get them hurt. Are you suggesting that when our first team is out there, they are not going 100%? I believe the sense of urgency to win was higher on the Browns sideline. Coming off no wins and "earn your stripe" I see as a bit more urgent.
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 8:12:57 GMT -5
As it was stated The browns were playing to win the game. The Giants were establishing the basics that were lacking last season. The D-line was not ran against. They were last year, The O-line improved. We ran the ball I am not concerned about a pass rush of pass coverage at this point in the season. IMO I do not want our 1st team going at 100% . It proves nothing and can get them hurt. Are you suggesting that when our first team is out there, they are not going 100%? I did not say that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 8:15:47 GMT -5
You mean against the same d line Taylor threw his TD pass? As it was stated The browns were playing to win the game. The Giants were establishing the basics that were lacking last season. Who stated that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 8:19:06 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that when our first team is out there, they are not going 100%? I believe the sense of urgency to win was higher on the Browns sideline. Coming off no wins and "earn your stripe" I see as a bit more urgent. ...as opposed to one of the richest and highest-profile teams in the league coming off an embarrassing 3-13 season.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 11, 2018 8:22:31 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that when our first team is out there, they are not going 100%? I believe the sense of urgency to win was higher on the Browns sideline. Coming off no wins and "earn your stripe" I see as a bit more urgent. We had 3 wins last year. If that doesn’t inspire an urgency to win, then we are doomed
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 8:22:34 GMT -5
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 11, 2018 8:24:03 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that when our first team is out there, they are not going 100%? I did not say that. Ok - What you are saying is that you would rather not have them going at 100% when they are out there?
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 8:28:09 GMT -5
I believe the sense of urgency to win was higher on the Browns sideline. Coming off no wins and "earn your stripe" I see as a bit more urgent. ...as opposed to one of the richest and highest-profile teams in the league coming off an embarrassing 3-13 season. Are you suggesting evaluating what the team can actually do in aspects of their game. is less important than winning a pre season game? There is a reason The browns have never established themselves as a regular season threat. and a post season never was.
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 8:31:29 GMT -5
Ok - What you are saying is that you would rather not have them going at 100% when they are out there? That is what I said. It is the pre-season . For the first game . The O-line looked better. They were able to run the ball, They were able to stop the run. That is a great first start IMO: The basics. We had none last year. I would rather not have the pass rush and corners going full out. It is a environment for injuries. I would rather them ease into game speed for the first week or 2
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 8:35:55 GMT -5
So, Davis Webb stunk up the joint and Barkley averaged 1 yard per carry in four of his five touches ‘cuz we didn’t have a game plan?
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Post by TEM on Aug 11, 2018 8:44:40 GMT -5
So, Davis Webb stunk up the joint and Barkley averaged 1 yard per carry in four of his five touches ‘cuz we didn’t have a game plan? Your rants are becoming ridiculous. As a friend I am saying this . You need to step back away from the MB for a while. If you are handling the first pre season game and using( 5 total carries (the truth is it was 4) as a bench mark to post a negative . My friend that is unglued. You are way too intelligent to allow emotional idiocy to take over your logic.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 11, 2018 8:47:49 GMT -5
Ok - What you are saying is that you would rather not have them going at 100% when they are out there? That is what I said. It is the pre-season . For the first game . The O-line looked better. They were able to run the ball, They were able to stop the run. That is a great first start IMO: The basics. We had none last year. I would rather not have the pass rush and corners going full out. It is a environment for injuries. I would rather them ease into game speed for the first week or 2 No offense dude, but that is a terrible idea. If the idea is that the coaching staff should not game plan 100% to win a preseason game, fine. But having players out there going less than 100% while their opponent is going 100% will do nothing to prevent injury, will hinder the team’s efforts to get ready for the regular season and will promote a loser mentality IMO.
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