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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 21, 2019 10:12:17 GMT -5
1. Jones to make first NFL start. Daniel Jones was the second of 11 quarterbacks drafted in April, and he will become the third to start. Top pick Kyler Murray has been the Cardinals’ starting quarterback from day one, and Gardner Minshew II, a sixth-round selection, started the last two weeks for the Jaguars in place of the injured Nick Foles. Jones made his NFL debut on the final drive of the Giants’ 35-17 loss to Dallas in the season opener, but Sunday in Tampa will be his first start since the 2018 Independence Bowl. Jones had a 137.3 passer rating, averaged 12.2 yards per pass attempt, and completed 85.3 percent of his passes in the preseason, all first among quarterbacks who threw more than six passes.
2. Eli accepts new role. Eli Manning had started 232 of the Giants’ last 233 regular-season games, a span that began in Week 11 of the 2004 season when, as the first overall draft choice that year, he replaced future Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. On the NFL’s all-time lists, Manning is currently sixth in completions (4,860), seventh in yards (56,537) and eighth in touchdown passes (362). “I’ll get into futures later on,” Manning said. “Right now, my future is I’m the second-string quarterback of the Giants and I’ve got to get myself ready to play and do whatever I’m called upon and feel I need to do to help out the rest of my teammates.”
3. How much will the offense change? That was the question trailing in the wake of the quarterback news, considering Jones’ well-known mobility (17 rushing touchdowns at Duke) and Manning’s lack of it (Super Bowl XLII aside). There will be natural changes, but don’t expect a complete overhaul.
“I mean I think that’s a possibility with Jones because he can move pretty well,” running back Saquon Barkley said. “But at the end of the day, I think the defense is really going to play us, kind of, the same way. I think the (Buccaneers) head coach (Bruce Arians) over there made it kind of known what the game plan is for them, and that’s to stop the run.”
As for the run-pass option, Barkley said: “I mean we ran it with Eli. To be completely honest, RPO, it doesn’t necessarily mean for the quarterback to pull it and run. You’re reading the defender, so he can give it to you or he can still throw the ball. Multiple teams do RPO throughout the season, and throughout the NFL, that’s kind of what the NFL is going to. I don’t think it’s really going to be too much of a change, but yes, everybody knows he’s a mobile quarterback and he’s going to be able to extend plays, and he’s going to be able to run if need be. Hopefully we don’t have to put ourselves in that position, but if we have to do that, then hopefully he’ll go out there and make some plays– which I believe he will.”
4. Shepard, Slayton on track. The Giants’ wide receiver corps looks to get a boost from the returns of Sterling Shepard (concussion) and rookie Darius Slayton (hamstring). Both were full-go by Friday’s practice and are on track to play Sunday. Shepard missed last week’s game while Slayton, a fifth-round draft choice, has yet to make his NFL debut.
5. Injury report. NYG – Out: WR Cody Latimer (concussion). Questionable: WR Bennie Fowler (hamstring). TB – Out: LB Devante Bond (hamstring), CB Jamel Dean (ankle), QB Blaine Gabbert (left shoulder), LB Devin White (knee).
6. Strength vs. strength. Under new defensive coordinator Todd Bowles, the Buccaneers have allowed just 2.69 yards per rush, the third-best mark in the league. The Giants are averaging 7.57 yards per rush, the best in the NFL by nearly two yards (Houston is second at 5.77). Tampa Bay will be rested after improving to 1-1 with a Thursday night victory over Carolina. 7. Shoring up the D. Through two weeks, the Giants are allowing 441 yards and 31.5 points per game. They have yet to force a turnover and recorded their first three sacks of the season in Week 2. On offense, the Buccaneers average 292.0 yards and 18.5 points per game. 8. The good with the bad. On one hand, Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston has thrown 61 interceptions since the Buccaneers drafted the Heisman Trophy winner first overall in 2015, the most in the NFL in that time span. On the other, Winston is capable of getting hot at any moment, like he did last year against the Giants. Winston, who relieved starter Ryan Fitzpatrick in the Week 11 outing, led four straight touchdowns drives as Tampa Bay nearly rallied for a win. Winston has a 101.1 passer rating with five interceptions to one interception in three games against the Giants. 9. Series history. Sunday will be the third year in a row and the fourth time in five seasons that the Giants and Bucs meet. The last two games between the teams were decided by a total of five points. On Oct. 1, 2017, the Giants’ last trip to Raymond James Stadium, Nick Folk kicked a 34-yard field goal as time expired to give the Bucs a 25-23 victory. That broke the Giants’ five-game winning streak in the series, including a 2007 wild card victory. 10. Get a little juice. It has been a major week in franchise history with the changing of the guard, but there is still a lot of football left to play in 2019. The Giants, with a new quarterback, look for their first win of the season on the road before back-to-back home games. “You get a little juice, you win a football game,” Shurmur said, “who knows what’s going to happen.”
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Sept 21, 2019 10:53:48 GMT -5
Let's roll.
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Post by scoostraw on Sept 21, 2019 11:01:40 GMT -5
I'm ready.
No matter how it goes.
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Post by EliQB10 on Sept 21, 2019 11:47:21 GMT -5
Hey...we suck so we might as well watch this kid through his growing pains with the hope that he will be our new franchise QB for many years to come...
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 21, 2019 12:09:58 GMT -5
I'm excited to see DJ run the offense. Hopefully we see some incremental improvement from our young D.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 21, 2019 12:52:22 GMT -5
I'm excited to see DJ run the offense. Hopefully we see some incremental improvement from our young D. Exactly. I'm very excited to see how this offense will look with Jones' skill set. While I realize that he's going to take his lumps like every other rookie QB, I'm also very optimistic he'll play well.
And as for the D, hopefully they make strides like you said.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 21, 2019 12:53:34 GMT -5
Can't let Winston burn you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 14:12:50 GMT -5
Take no prisoners!!!
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Post by gmen21 on Sept 21, 2019 14:34:57 GMT -5
Giants will win 27-21
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 21, 2019 14:51:06 GMT -5
Funny how after just 2 weeks, people hyping up the TB D like it's the 02' Tampa 2. Cam's been struggling lately with various injuries & SB is way better than their RB, so let's not get carried away about them shutting down Carolina last week.
I'm hoping TB stacks the box & forces DJ to beat em, they may be in for a surprise.
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Post by ocgiant on Sept 21, 2019 14:58:04 GMT -5
Finally something to look forward to and I can see the team rally for DJ to give him his first NFL win!
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 21, 2019 17:11:45 GMT -5
5 Bucs to Watch | By Carmen Vitali
1. S Jordan Whitehead So far in 2019, safety Jordan Whitehead has stood out in Defensive Coordinator Todd Bowles’ aggressive system for, well, playing aggressive. It’s Whitehead’s specialty, in fact. A hard-hitting safety that flings his entire body into his tackles, watching Whitehead come downhill will make you say ‘ooh’ more than once a game. Whitehead had six combined tackles in the Bucs’ last game against the division-rival Panthers. He was one player that was also charged with containing running back Christian McCaffrey. The week before, he helped cover 49ers tight end George Kittle en route to having a team-high eight tackles. Granted, you don’t usually want your secondary to be recording the most tackles on the team, but primarily being a box safety, his tackles mostly come in run defense. Whitehead is on his second NFL system in two years. He’s also only in his second year in the league, period. His effectiveness until this point is a testament to what he does off the field as much as what he does on it. “Jordan is hungry for knowledge,” Bowles said of Whitehead. “His thirst to learn and come in every day and try to be the best he can be is outstanding. He applies what you tell him and he works at it on the field. He just keeps grinding. He wants to be a great player. Having a young player that does that kind of work is outstanding, so he’s just got to keep working, keep getting better and soaking up the knowledge of the game.” Head Coach Bruce Arians spoke about Whitehead’s 14 tackles so far this season and his impact on the run game as well. Though he insists, Whitehead hasn’t reached his ceiling. "Jordan’s productivity is really good right now,” Arians said. “He can play better, but his productivity is off the charts."
2. DT Ndamukong Suh You know by now that outside linebacker Shaq Barrett had 3.0 sacks last week against Carolina, enough to earn him NFC Defensive Player of the Week. And while Barrett’s performance was impressive, he had some help. That help came from the interior of the line where Vita Vea and Ndamukong Suh make their homes more often than not. Both players are menacing for opposing offensive lines, commanding double-teams and thereby leaving guys like Barrett and outside linebacker Carl Nassib with one-on-one matchups. It’s a numbers game and it’s going to create mismatches somewhere. “We’re getting inside push from [Ndamukong] Suh and Vita,” Coach Arians said. “So those outside guys are getting closer and closer.” Look for the pendulum to start swinging in the opposite direction now, with opposing offenses realizing they can’t leave guys like Barrett to their own devices. It could take away a double team from Suh on occasion, and with how close he’s been recently according to Coach Arians, he could take full advantage of one-on-one matchups. "Hopefully, they’ll start sliding to him,” Arians said of sacks going to other players. “Carl [Nassib] has had a couple but he’s let them go. Yeah, we’d like to get some more going and I think Carl’s been really close. I think [Ndamukong] Suh got close a couple of times, so yeah – just finish the deal.”
3. OLB Carl Nassib
Speaking of Carl Nassib, you may as well watch him, too. Barrett’s performance could have a domino effect not only for the interior players, but for the guy that is usually mirroring him on the opposite side of the front. Nassib had the second-most sacks on the team last season with 6.5. But things didn’t seem to click until Week Six last season when he played his former team in the Cleveland Browns. But if he wants to finish with a higher total than last year, Nassib will have to get going a little sooner.
Nassib was named a captain this year in part because of the sheer energy he brings to the team on a daily basis. It really should only be a matter of time before that energy translates into something that shows up on the stat sheet. And don’t let sacks be confused for production. Nassib has still made his presence felt off the edge. He’s had a couple quarterback hurries and pressures over the last couple games and is all but due for a big game. What better way to get going than against a rookie quarterback?
4. WR Mike Evans
Wide receiver Mike Evans caught a beautiful 41-yard pass from quarterback Jameis Winston in the Bucs win over Carolina last week. He’s connected with Winston a few deep balls this season that have set the Buccaneers up in favorable positions. For instance, that aforementioned 41-yard pass happened on the first play of the Bucs’ third drive of the second quarter. It culminated in a 20-yard touchdown pass to Chris Godwin just a few plays later with the bulk of the work done by Evans in that one play.
Now, Evans has an opportunity to go up against a New York secondary that has been struggling a bit this season. Overall, the Giants have just four pass breakups on the season. New York is also giving up the third-most passing yards per game so far in 2019, allowing an average of 321.0 yards per game.
Those are favorable conditions for a veteran receiver like Evans. His experience also affords him some familiarity with the corner he’ll likely be matching up against.
“I am familiar with Janoris [Jenkins],” Evans said on Tuesday. “I’ve played against him a couple of times in my career. He is a really good corner – real savvy, athletic and he’s always tough to go against. The rest of their guys – we are starting to feel them out – we just started watching film on them today. They don’t look bad at all, so we are going to watch some more film on them. But like I’ve said before in the past, I’ll take our receiver room over anyone.”
5. The Running Back
Notice I didn’t specify Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones or even Dare Ogunbowale for that matter. Through two games, the Bucs have had two different leading rushers. Week One against the 49ers it was second-year back Ronald Jones with 75 yards on the ground. Against Carolina on Thursday, it was Peyton Barber with 82 yards.
This coaching staff has shown it’s not afraid to go with the ‘hot hand’ and it has faith in both running backs.
“That’s the good thing when you have two guys like this – we don’t have to [say], ‘Whoever’s rolling, we’re going to turn around and hand that guy the ball,’” Offensive Coordinator Byron Leftwich said. “We’re going to turn around and hand somebody the ball. Regardless of who’s rolling, we don’t really care. We’re just trying to get the production out of that position and they did a great job of that Thursday night.”
Ogunbowale is a special teams captain this year and his route-running has made him a trusted third-down back, as well. It’s running back by committee and in order for the offense to be firing on all cylinders, a ground game will have to be established. The Giants rank 18th so far this season in rushing defense, allowing 120.0 yards on the ground. It could be a chance for the Bucs to get their first 100-yard solo rusher on Sunday.
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Post by Eazy E on Sept 21, 2019 17:40:29 GMT -5
Hype video, Let's Go!!!!!
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Post by allnygin on Sept 21, 2019 18:41:20 GMT -5
Going in the game expecting the worst. Young QB, young Defense (who's already been struggling). Anything else is a positive. Looking for some flashes, and smart plays from Jones. Super excited though, haven't been this stoked for a non post season game in forever.
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Sept 21, 2019 20:07:42 GMT -5
I'd hope we win and look good
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 21, 2019 21:11:54 GMT -5
I'm excited to see DJ run the offense. Hopefully we see some incremental improvement from our young D. Exactly. I'm very excited to see how this offense will look with Jones' skill set. While I realize that he's going to take his lumps like every other rookie QB, I'm also very optimistic he'll play well.
And as for the D, hopefully they make strides like you said. They were a little better last week on D lets hope we see a little jump, even tho Baker was not great in the second half he was better hopefully he can build off that and be a little better this week, as far as Jones goes I'm excited to see him grow up as you said there are gonna be some rough spots and plenty of growing pains, I remember how tough it was for Eli and then he finally had a mini breakout late in his rookie season against a good steelers team.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 21, 2019 21:29:44 GMT -5
7. Shoring up the D. Through two weeks, the Giants are allowing 441 yards and 31.5 points per game. They have yet to force a turnover and recorded their first three sacks of the season in Week 2. On offense, the Buccaneers average 292.0 yards and 18.5 points per game.
the D HAS to get better.....please!!!! and flashes from Jones is all I am looking for. If its better than that will be the gravy.........
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 21, 2019 21:31:39 GMT -5
Bucs nearly pulled off a comeback against us at metlife last year. And they're improved with better coaching. This won't end in a giants well, hopefully I am not right
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Post by Bigjeep on Sept 22, 2019 7:23:15 GMT -5
I don't see a win, but hope that Jones shows us he will be good! That's all I ask!
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Post by dannydimes8 on Sept 22, 2019 8:15:08 GMT -5
37-20 Bucs if secondary can’t significantly sure up what they put forth the first 2 weeks. This is the best passing offense we have faced so far.
The win comes in Jones. Him starting is a win for this franchise. Letting go was hard for them and it was important to do so.
19-30 250 2 TDs 1 INT 1 fumble 3 carries 15 yards is my guess at Jones vicinity for stats today.
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Post by TEM on Sept 22, 2019 8:19:45 GMT -5
It will be the Mike Evens show against our Defense. We have no one that can cover him without a pass rush.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 22, 2019 8:29:18 GMT -5
It will be the Mike Evens show against our Defense. We have no one that can cover him without a pass rush. Hopefully that new LB that we plucked from the Steelers adds a spark to our pass rush.
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Post by scoostraw on Sept 22, 2019 8:29:51 GMT -5
I THINK Tiki and Ronde will be in the booth for the game today.
They did this the last time, and I thought they were terrific.
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Post by TEM on Sept 22, 2019 8:40:17 GMT -5
I don't see a win, but hope that Jones shows us he will be good! That's all I ask! I do not even care if he looks good. Just give us a flash of things to look forward to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 8:42:46 GMT -5
Gearing up to protect my big bald head today!!!!! GO GIANTS!!! #letthejoneserabegin
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Post by scoostraw on Sept 22, 2019 8:47:14 GMT -5
Gearing up to protect my big bald head today!!!!! GO GIANTS!!! #letthejoneserabegin Wave so we can see u on tv today.
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Post by TEM on Sept 22, 2019 8:50:45 GMT -5
Gearing up to protect my big bald head today!!!!! GO GIANTS!!! #letthejoneserabegin Just a heads up . You have some dirt on your chin
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Post by Bigjeep on Sept 22, 2019 8:53:40 GMT -5
I don't see a win, but hope that Jones shows us he will be good! That's all I ask! I do not even care if he looks good. Just give us a flash of things to look forward to. Amen! emoji
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Sept 22, 2019 8:58:59 GMT -5
If Shurmur doesn't give Barkley at least 20 touches today he is a proven idiot.
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Post by DMighty on Sept 22, 2019 8:59:56 GMT -5
Dear Jones
You don't have to be great! You don't have to be Eli. All I ask is for you to show promise. Give me sometime to look forward to each week and that's watching you, potentially our future franchise quarterback
Go get em!
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