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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 22, 2019 18:47:41 GMT -5
"Have you seen how well Dak is throwing the ball?" Don't tell me you're another Skip Bayless, gloating over his QBR being the best in the NFL? We went to one playoff game with OBJ & he picked that game to suck, so no, not really. Don't miss his primmadonna " me, me, me " attitude. How great are the Browns doing with him? About to be 2-5 next week after NE gets done with them. In games where the Ewok rushes for under 75yds, Dak is 1-8. Still has not won a game with his arm against a playoff contender when the run game is ineffective. Game manager. in 2011, we had the #32 ranked run game in the NFL, Eli won every important game that yr both in the regular season & the playoffs with his arm, despite our lack of a run game. Lemme know when Dak does that as well. Let you know???? Hell, you know more about the Cowboys than most so you'll know. He's just a 4th rounder, and getting much better ... everyone sees it except you because of those blue shaded lenses. And Ewok has just not been very good this year. I read where TB said he was 5 years in before he had learned the position. Manning was in his 8th season in 2011 ... that's some experience there. Let's not forget how lucky he has been too with some of his throws . Charmed is a good word. Guess it's just as important to be lucky as it is good, right? I have confidence this team (Cows) will get better. Glad I at least have some hope. I just don't see this staff being good enough to win a SB (another advantage Elisha had early on). Eli won his 1st SB in his 4th yr, exactly where Dak is at now. I brought up 2011 due to the fact that even w/o a good run game all yr, Eli won games with his arm & didn't need his RBs to churn for over 100+yds like Dak needs the Ewok to do in order to be successful.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 23, 2019 13:37:19 GMT -5
Let you know???? Hell, you know more about the Cowboys than most so you'll know. He's just a 4th rounder, and getting much better ... everyone sees it except you because of those blue shaded lenses. And Ewok has just not been very good this year. I read where TB said he was 5 years in before he had learned the position. Manning was in his 8th season in 2011 ... that's some experience there. Let's not forget how lucky he has been too with some of his throws . Charmed is a good word. Guess it's just as important to be lucky as it is good, right? I have confidence this team (Cows) will get better. Glad I at least have some hope. I just don't see this staff being good enough to win a SB (another advantage Elisha had early on). Eli won his 1st SB in his 4th yr, exactly where Dak is at now. I brought up 2011 due to the fact that even w/o a good run game all yr, Eli won games with his arm & didn't need his RBs to churn for over 100+yds like Dak needs the Ewok to do in order to be successful. Patience, Grasshopper! We all know Eli won with luck AND great D. Eli is far from a generational talent. Hell, he has just as many turnovers as TD's in his career. With only 3-4 outstanding years. His 1st SB he was a quite pedestrian 19-34 , 2 TD and 1 int. I'd say they one in spite of him. Yet, he got the MVP but who voted????? -----> the NY Media was a large component. Hell, he didn't even top 300 yards in his 2nd SB (at least no INT's in this one). Oh, you forgot to mention that the 2007 NYG were #4 in the league in rushing with 3 players in the top 60 in the league. Minor lapse I'm sure !!!! Get back to me year 8 for Dak, he's still getting better and learning. Thanks for the stats ... I love 'em !
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 23, 2019 14:54:27 GMT -5
*popcorn *
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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 23, 2019 18:01:52 GMT -5
Eli won his 1st SB in his 4th yr, exactly where Dak is at now. I brought up 2011 due to the fact that even w/o a good run game all yr, Eli won games with his arm & didn't need his RBs to churn for over 100+yds like Dak needs the Ewok to do in order to be successful. Patience, Grasshopper! We all know Eli won with luck AND great D. Eli is far from a generational talent. Hell, he has just as many turnovers as TD's in his career. With only 3-4 outstanding years. His 1st SB he was a quite pedestrian 19-34 , 2 TD and 1 int. I'd say they one in spite of him. Yet, he got the MVP but who voted????? -----> the NY Media was a large component. Hell, he didn't even top 300 yards in his 2nd SB (at least no INT's in this one). Oh, you forgot to mention that the 2007 NYG were #4 in the league in rushing with 3 players in the top 60 in the league. Minor lapse I'm sure !!!! Get back to me year 8 for Dak, he's still getting better and learning. Thanks for the stats ... I love 'em ! You forgot to include the 255yds Eli threw for on those 19 completions, Tommy boy only threw for 11 more yds & 1 less TD than Eli did while throwing 48x to Eli's 34 att, so Eli actually outplayed Tommy boy in that SB. Eli's 19 comp went for an avg of 13ypc. Oh, Tommy didn't reach 300yds passing in either game as well, what's your point?
And in SB46, Eli outplayed Tommy boy again, 30-40 296yds 1 TD 0 ints & a 103 QBR TB stats in SB46, 27-41 276 yds 2 TDs 1 Int & a 91 QBR
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 23, 2019 19:52:48 GMT -5
Glad to be able to add to your evening's entertainment.
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Post by Dogecoin on Oct 23, 2019 20:25:11 GMT -5
Patience, Grasshopper! We all know Eli won with luck AND great D. Eli is far from a generational talent. Hell, he has just as many turnovers as TD's in his career. With only 3-4 outstanding years. His 1st SB he was a quite pedestrian 19-34 , 2 TD and 1 int. I'd say they one in spite of him. Yet, he got the MVP but who voted????? -----> the NY Media was a large component. Hell, he didn't even top 300 yards in his 2nd SB (at least no INT's in this one). Oh, you forgot to mention that the 2007 NYG were #4 in the league in rushing with 3 players in the top 60 in the league. Minor lapse I'm sure !!!! Get back to me year 8 for Dak, he's still getting better and learning. Thanks for the stats ... I love 'em ! You forgot to include the 255yds Eli threw for on those 19 completions, Tommy boy only threw for 11 more yds & 1 less TD than Eli did while throwing 48x to Eli's 34 att, so Eli actually outplayed Tommy boy in that SB. Eli's 19 comp went for an avg of 13ypc. Oh, Tommy didn't reach 300yds passing in either game as well, what's your point?
And in SB46, Eli outplayed Tommy boy again, 30-40 296yds 1 TD 0 ints & a 103 QBR TB stats in SB46, 27-41 276 yds 2 TDs 1 Int & a 91 QBR
Man that only feels like forever-ago
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 23, 2019 20:37:35 GMT -5
Patience, Grasshopper! We all know Eli won with luck AND great D. Eli is far from a generational talent. Hell, he has just as many turnovers as TD's in his career. With only 3-4 outstanding years. His 1st SB he was a quite pedestrian 19-34 , 2 TD and 1 int. I'd say they one in spite of him. Yet, he got the MVP but who voted????? -----> the NY Media was a large component. Hell, he didn't even top 300 yards in his 2nd SB (at least no INT's in this one). Oh, you forgot to mention that the 2007 NYG were #4 in the league in rushing with 3 players in the top 60 in the league. Minor lapse I'm sure !!!! Get back to me year 8 for Dak, he's still getting better and learning. Thanks for the stats ... I love 'em ! You forgot to include the 255yds Eli threw for on those 19 completions, Tommy boy only threw for 11 more yds & 1 less TD than Eli did while throwing 48x to Eli's 34 att, so Eli actually outplayed Tommy boy in that SB. Eli's 19 comp went for an avg of 13ypc. Oh, Tommy didn't reach 300yds passing in either game as well, what's your point?
And in SB46, Eli outplayed Tommy boy again, 30-40 296yds 1 TD 0 ints & a 103 QBR TB stats in SB46, 27-41 276 yds 2 TDs 1 Int & a 91 QBR
Good stats ... they're like chips and salsa ... just can't get enough. So 115 of those 255 yds were on 3 plays then after you get that out of the way you have 15 for 140 ... dink and dunk country right there! So 3 luck plays. Oh, another glaring omission on Elisha "outplaying" TB (the GOAT) ... Brady had ZERO (none/nada) int's so it's a real stretch to say he outplayed him. Elisha had his run game working ... that and the D is who won that game for the NYG ... and luck. Now, fo sho Elisha outplayed the GOAT in SB46 ... Stevie Wonder can see that. I'm glad you are bringing up QBR ... I like that stat. Dak leads the league in 2019 in that category. Helluva stat. Game manager and a dinker and dunker ( Dak is also tied for 4th in the league at 7.6 yds per attempt where the leader is at 7.9 yds/att) rolling along. Getting better. 4th rounder. He looks good this year. Exciting player to watch.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 23, 2019 20:42:06 GMT -5
You forgot to include the 255yds Eli threw for on those 19 completions, Tommy boy only threw for 11 more yds & 1 less TD than Eli did while throwing 48x to Eli's 34 att, so Eli actually outplayed Tommy boy in that SB. Eli's 19 comp went for an avg of 13ypc. Oh, Tommy didn't reach 300yds passing in either game as well, what's your point?
And in SB46, Eli outplayed Tommy boy again, 30-40 296yds 1 TD 0 ints & a 103 QBR TB stats in SB46, 27-41 276 yds 2 TDs 1 Int & a 91 QBR
Man that only feels like forever-ago We all live in our memories. Memories of our childhood, our kids, that big bass ya caught, that beautiful sunrise over the ocean, a wonderful vacation. Memories are the best of life sprinkled into our minds leaving indelible imprints. Relish and enjoy them all the time. Life is great !
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 24, 2019 6:22:45 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by Speedman on Oct 24, 2019 13:06:24 GMT -5
Eli won his 1st SB in his 4th yr, exactly where Dak is at now. I brought up 2011 due to the fact that even w/o a good run game all yr, Eli won games with his arm & didn't need his RBs to churn for over 100+yds like Dak needs the Ewok to do in order to be successful. Patience, Grasshopper! We all know Eli won with luck AND great D. Eli is far from a generational talent. Hell, he has just as many turnovers as TD's in his career. With only 3-4 outstanding years. His 1st SB he was a quite pedestrian 19-34 , 2 TD and 1 int. I'd say they one in spite of him. Yet, he got the MVP but who voted????? -----> the NY Media was a large component. Hell, he didn't even top 300 yards in his 2nd SB (at least no INT's in this one). Oh, you forgot to mention that the 2007 NYG were #4 in the league in rushing with 3 players in the top 60 in the league. Minor lapse I'm sure !!!! Get back to me year 8 for Dak, he's still getting better and learning. Thanks for the stats ... I love 'em ! I hope they pay Dak 40mil per year. Take away that OL and he's on Trubisky's level.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 24, 2019 20:12:10 GMT -5
Patience, Grasshopper! We all know Eli won with luck AND great D. Eli is far from a generational talent. Hell, he has just as many turnovers as TD's in his career. With only 3-4 outstanding years. His 1st SB he was a quite pedestrian 19-34 , 2 TD and 1 int. I'd say they one in spite of him. Yet, he got the MVP but who voted????? -----> the NY Media was a large component. Hell, he didn't even top 300 yards in his 2nd SB (at least no INT's in this one). Oh, you forgot to mention that the 2007 NYG were #4 in the league in rushing with 3 players in the top 60 in the league. Minor lapse I'm sure !!!! Get back to me year 8 for Dak, he's still getting better and learning. Thanks for the stats ... I love 'em ! I hope they pay Dak 40mil per year. Take away that OL and he's on Trubisky's level. Please Speedman ... get up to speed. Last half of last year Dak was missing 2 of his pro bowl/all-pro OL (which is good but not great this year). There was a rookie at LG who was quite mediocre. I look for Dak to get around $34-$35M but that will be about right with the new CBA. Even if it's $40M I'll be OK with it Dak is already making bank. About $50M/year in endorsements (ahhhh yes ........QB of America's Team) "Taken together, Prescott’s endorsement deals and insurance policies are worth more than $50 million, ESPN reported, citing league sources familiar with the matter." www.foxbusiness.com/features/dak-prescott-endorsements-cowboys-contractLook, I love y'all thinking Dak is gonna break the Cowboy bank but they are cash rich for the next season and it ain't gonna happen. You can check that at overthecap.com. Cows continue to draft well with a good plan. They are stingy in free agency and don't waste money on the big names. Their one big acquisition was a trade last year where they gave up a 1st for Amari Cooper ... that's paying off handsomely too. They also picked up Robert Quinn, tied for 5th in the league in sacks for hen scratch.
Cows front office appear to have their shixt together on talent acquisition and cap management. I wouldn't be surprised if they franchise Dak next year ahead of the new CBA. He's not trubinsky level, definitely better. And it's not the OL, not the Ewok, ... it's everything ... they're a TEAM. Everybody plays a part . Sure, they need all the parts to work reasonably well, most teams do. GB may be the exception as you take AR away and they're a 5-6 win team at best. Dak definitely does his part , does it very well, and anyone who says he's not pretty damn good is blind, biased, lying, or a combination of any or all of these. Y'all gotta get better at your posts. At least Parademon tries to back up his posts with some facts although they are full of errors and cherry picked ideas.
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Post by Speedman on Oct 25, 2019 0:27:05 GMT -5
I hope they pay Dak 40mil per year. Take away that OL and he's on Trubisky's level. Please Speedman ... get up to speed. Last half of last year Dak was missing 2 of his pro bowl/all-pro OL (which is good but not great this year). There was a rookie at LG who was quite mediocre. I look for Dak to get around $34-$35M but that will be about right with the new CBA. Even if it's $40M I'll be OK with it Dak is already making bank. About $50M/year in endorsements (ahhhh yes ........QB of America's Team) "Taken together, Prescott’s endorsement deals and insurance policies are worth more than $50 million, ESPN reported, citing league sources familiar with the matter." www.foxbusiness.com/features/dak-prescott-endorsements-cowboys-contractLook, I love y'all thinking Dak is gonna break the Cowboy bank but they are cash rich for the next season and it ain't gonna happen. You can check that at overthecap.com. Cows continue to draft well with a good plan. They are stingy in free agency and don't waste money on the big names. Their one big acquisition was a trade last year where they gave up a 1st for Amari Cooper ... that's paying off handsomely too. They also picked up Robert Quinn, tied for 5th in the league in sacks for hen scratch.
Cows front office appear to have their shixt together on talent acquisition and cap management. I wouldn't be surprised if they franchise Dak next year ahead of the new CBA. He's not trubinsky level, definitely better. And it's not the OL, not the Ewok, ... it's everything ... they're a TEAM. Everybody plays a part . Sure, they need all the parts to work reasonably well, most teams do. GB may be the exception as you take AR away and they're a 5-6 win team at best. Dak definitely does his part , does it very well, and anyone who says he's not pretty damn good is blind, biased, lying, or a combination of any or all of these. Y'all gotta get better at your posts. At least Parademon tries to back up his posts with some facts although they are full of errors and cherry picked ideas. I hope that the FO believes like you do and pay him what he is asking for. Then they won’t win a SB for the next 5 years at least.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 25, 2019 7:41:58 GMT -5
Please Speedman ... get up to speed. Last half of last year Dak was missing 2 of his pro bowl/all-pro OL (which is good but not great this year). There was a rookie at LG who was quite mediocre. I look for Dak to get around $34-$35M but that will be about right with the new CBA. Even if it's $40M I'll be OK with it Dak is already making bank. About $50M/year in endorsements (ahhhh yes ........QB of America's Team) "Taken together, Prescott’s endorsement deals and insurance policies are worth more than $50 million, ESPN reported, citing league sources familiar with the matter." www.foxbusiness.com/features/dak-prescott-endorsements-cowboys-contractLook, I love y'all thinking Dak is gonna break the Cowboy bank but they are cash rich for the next season and it ain't gonna happen. You can check that at overthecap.com. Cows continue to draft well with a good plan. They are stingy in free agency and don't waste money on the big names. Their one big acquisition was a trade last year where they gave up a 1st for Amari Cooper ... that's paying off handsomely too. They also picked up Robert Quinn, tied for 5th in the league in sacks for hen scratch.
Cows front office appear to have their shixt together on talent acquisition and cap management. I wouldn't be surprised if they franchise Dak next year ahead of the new CBA. He's not trubinsky level, definitely better. And it's not the OL, not the Ewok, ... it's everything ... they're a TEAM. Everybody plays a part . Sure, they need all the parts to work reasonably well, most teams do. GB may be the exception as you take AR away and they're a 5-6 win team at best. Dak definitely does his part , does it very well, and anyone who says he's not pretty damn good is blind, biased, lying, or a combination of any or all of these. Y'all gotta get better at your posts. At least Parademon tries to back up his posts with some facts although they are full of errors and cherry picked ideas. I hope that the FO believes like you do and pay him what he is asking for. Then they won’t win a SB for the next 5 years at least. No need arguing with you if you're just gonna repeat yourself without adding ANY justification to your claims. Thanks for your participation ... PM the admin. for your participation trophy.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 25, 2019 8:32:07 GMT -5
Lol, this guy is alright.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 25, 2019 15:08:13 GMT -5
I took Para's advice and watched Skip Bayless today:
Orlando Scandrick let go by Philthy this week being interviewed on Undisputed ... Listen to about the 8:00 mark for Scandrick's assessment on Dak
Also some candid comments about Carson Wentz at the beginning .
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 25, 2019 16:59:58 GMT -5
I made an error above as I posted the wrong video. This video has the positive Dak comments at the 8:00 minute mark.
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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 25, 2019 22:37:34 GMT -5
You can continue to spin the Dak is a great QB narrative all you want, fact is , w/o a great run game, he has yet to win games vs contenders with his arm. AR has won a ton of games with just his arm because GB has really never been a run dominant team during his career as the starter. Since 2008, AR has had just 2 RBs rush for over 1000yds in a season, Ryan Grant in 08'-09' & Eddie Lacy in 13'-14', that's just 4x in ARs 12yr career that he's had a 1000yd RB, Dak's had the Ewok for all 4 of his yrs as the starter & he's rushed for 1400+yds in 16' & 18" & 983yds in 17' & already has 602yds this yr en route to another 1300+yd rushing season. Tell me Dak lover, how great was Dak in 2017 when Ewok got suspended for 6 games? Especially the 3 games vs Atl/Phil/SD?
Here are his stellar stats in those 3 games w/o the Ewok
Vs Atl 20-30 176yds 0 TDs 0 Ints sacked 8 times, lost 27-7 Vs Phil 18-31 145yds 0 TDs 3 Ints sacked 4 times lost 37-9 Vs SD 20-27 179yds 0 TDs 2 Ints sacked 2 times lost 28-6
3 game totals 0 TDs 5 Ints 500yds 14 sacks divided by 3 games = 0 TDs 1.6 Ints 19 com 29 att 166yds 4 sacks per game
Why oh why couldn't Dak put that Cowboy team on his shoulders & win those 3 games with his arm? Oh yeah, Ewok was out. He couldn't throw a single TD pass in 3 straight games! But he rates $35 mil a yr? Oh , I do hope so! But hey, he's got a great QBR!
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Oct 26, 2019 10:37:49 GMT -5
Wait a dadburn minute Demon. Have I at any point used the vernacular "great"??? Have I not said he's "good" and "getting better"? There you go picking out games from the 2017 season when essentially you have a raw talent, not coached well, still learning the game, college RPO guy back there. Hell, he'd never taken a snap under center before 2016... definitely didn't come from anything like a NFL style offense yet you run him into the ground while not realizing he has quite an upside and is definitely better than 2 years ago AND improving. Ewok was not very good until the Philthy game last week (timing bad, out of football shape, looked slow). And with the Ewok ripping Philthy Dak had one of his lower rated games of the year. 2nd lowest yardage (239) output of the year although his rating was 100.5, completion percentage was 77.8% and he averaged 8.9 yds/rec.. So much for your old "dink and dunk" narrative you hammered him with during his rookie year (which he started as a 4th rd, #3 on the depth chart, ex RPO collegian). That dink and dunk is oddly silent from you since last year ... oddly silent... evidence that Dak continues to get better and you can't use that to demean him anymore. Please use more current stats when putting forth a narrative (2017???????) ... just so we know you're putting forth an accurate portrayal. This is not the same Dak as then. Hey, how's Daniel Jones rookie stats compared to Dak's rookie year? Winning percentage? He's your QB ... will he carry this team in 2020 on his back like you just hammered Dak for failing to? He is a 1st rounder afterall . We want to hold all QB's to the standards you have set for Dak, don't we? Maybe higher since he's a high 1st rounder. Let's examine the Demon QB standards some: www.nfl.com/player/danieljones/2562299/careerstatswww.nfl.com/player/dakprescott/2555260/careerstats a quick rookie comparison: DJ ---- DP Avg/rec : 6.5yds ---- 8.0 yds INT % : 4.0 ---- 0.9 Comp % :61.1 --- 66.7 Yds per gm : 190 --- 229 TD% : 3.4 ----- 4.6 Now obviously I can only work on percentages and averages but looks like my guy is better by quite a bit in all those measurements during their respective rookie campaigns. Maybe NY will get a top 5 pick (again ... they're sucking for 4 out of 5 years now with top 10 picks in those years) and draft another stud QB (instead of OL, DL, LB, WR ... all areas of great need). Right now there are 5 teams with worse records , 2 more with 2-5 records and 3 with 2-4 records. Gotta be disheartening knowing your GM has no plan, your talent acquisition guys suck and there's a bunch of sucky teams in the league. Now, y'all are pretty good in cap space and if Elisha retires, like he should, then y'all can be a little better if designated a June 1st release. NYG are 10th in cap money for 2020 (Cowboys are 5th). overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/Thanks for replying Demon man. I like reading your perspectives. Love ya man! I'm out here to show you the light!!!! The wifey and I did a little SA and Hill Country anniversary trip 2 weeks ago. 3 nights on the Riverwalk and a night in Fredericksburg. It was with that 1st front that blew in. 95 degree high one day and the next 65 with 25-30mph winds. I like SA/Hill Country a lot but wouldn't give up my Pineywoods acreage to move out there. Stopped at 3 different Buc Ee's coming out there and driving home.
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