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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 19:20:15 GMT -5
247sports.com/nfl/new-york-giants/Article/New-York-Giants-offseason-regret-offensive-tackle-133028396/This article, from last year immediately following the draft, questions the theory of not taking any tackles in what was perceived as a deep OT class and if this oversight going to hamper us in the future. As we watch the tackles this year struggle, and we attempt to keep our rookie QB secure, one can only wonder if last years BPA according to our scouting staff did indeed hinder us as we chose a DT at 17 vs Andre Dillard and as the article explains, why did we pass on day two value at OT. We can talk vertical threat all we want, over and over...and well, over and over until one might wonder if certain posters are taking the key vitamins and eating a balanced meal... but if the offensive line is not over powering the line of scrimmage, the entire philosophy of play action and separation becomes moot as our rookie QB shall have no time to flow with the Shurmur system. It all begins with fat boys. This year, we have an even deeper class of tackles, and while BPA should always be a matter of principle, each position should garner more value than others and thus, a level of difficulty should be incorporated into such BPA values. IMHO of course, and if a disagreement ensues, please try not to spend much time this evening allowing the trench warfare vs arial strikes debate to cause midwatch anxiety. Just remember, last year DG was indeed interested in taking a tackle, early...but the BPA rule reared its ugly head...the same ugly head that can easily come this year if DG feels the BPA is not a player of dire need, but simply the BPA. He did it with Barkley...he does not seem to put a positional need value at all....aside from the fat boys on defense. It's not hard to project...if of course you simply take BPA, regarding value of position. Another thing to remember, regarding BPA vs need...players are asked to play quicker than in the past. Many aspects dictate the reasons for this situation, but it is what it is. You pay, they play...quickly. We seen what having all that cap space can do, and how you simply can not "buy" a defense...teams are indeed built through the draft. We're hardly set at offensive line. We are far more set at ball catching, from TE, RB, and an assortment of "good" WR"s. We are in desperation mode on defense. BPA BPA BPA If we find a BPA of a position we are as of "now" good at, I'd sure as hell be looking to trade back. We need many more picks, as this team lacks "everywhere"...except people who can catch the ball.   
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 7:02:14 GMT -5
Alex Leatherwood from the Tide is a good prospect but still a work in progress. Super athletic, but has hand placement issues. How about some Prince Tega Wanogho? Auburn His story is amazing. He came to America to play basketball. Ended up working at this fast food place....guy on the right is a record poster on these very boards. 23,000 total in 6 months, 22,958 letting us know he believes in fast wide receivers. Hates old guys, fat guys who play football and stale fries.   After McDowells, the Prince found himself plowing open lanes for Auburn...imagine, from Queens to Auburn. From mopping floors to dropping jaws. He made a smart choice and could find himself an early pick in 2020. How about some Lucas Niang? FromTCU...no sacks allowed last year. 1st round talent? Wirfs teammate. Alaric Jackson. He plays left tackle. he is also a stud, that is of course, a technical master coming from Iowa. I know we have a few posters who specialize on the blocking and especially the tackles. Would love to hear some thoughts on the technique on our most important need and the most important position on a football field after the QB...I guess we got ours. Some others? Yasir Durant
Calvin Throckmorton
Mekhi Becton
Saahdiq Charles
Scott Frantz
Liam Eichenberg
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 10:31:24 GMT -5
Some interior rankings www.rotoworld.com/article/evaluations/top-10-2020-nfl-draft-interior-linemenCreed Humphry might be a first round talent at center.  #56 Not too bad.  Was reading some PFF regarding existing OL, and the Eagles are killing it. Through 5 games, the best tackle is, La'el Collins of the Cowboys. Peters and Johnson are 8 and 9. Brandon Brooks is 2nd among guards, behind the great Quenton Nelson. Kelce is the 10th best center...through 5 games. Worse offensive lines through 5 Bottom 5 OL in NFL in PFF grade: 28: NYJ 52.3 29: JAX 50.8 30: CIN 49.7 31: MIA 42.5 32: LAR 40.9 I'm sensing a trend.... |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 9, 2019 15:43:31 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia.... The clear cut top option at OT
'' You ask the prospect making machine to create an offensive tackle and they come out looking like Thomas. Thick frame with very little bad weight and long arms. Mobility stands out, especially his short area quickness. Springy footwork when challenged with wide, speed rushers. Does such a great job framing rushers in space and setting up road blocks up the arc. Has terrific length and he knows how to maximize it. Wonderful job of playing with extension and winning with first contact. Does well to place and fit his hands. Timing and location of his punch is precise. Delivers powerful punches that stun pads. Easily absorbs power and sets a sturdy anchor. Pocket width won’t be compromised in pass protection. Brings the fight in pass protection and has experience executing a variety of sets. Love how he rolls his hips into contact as a drive blocker. Outstanding power throughout his frame. Executes with good leverage, posture and body control. Has started every game across his first two seasons in Athens. Experienced executing pro concepts and techniques.
What an absolute juggernaut Thomas is -- he'll beat the pants off of whomever is lined up across from him. He's successfully pushed around some of the best defenders in the SEC over his two years as a starter and he shined bright in 2018 at Left Tackle, tacking over for Isaiah Wynn. Thomas has powerful hands and an even more potent anchor, once he drops his hips and sets his base, it is game over. I don't think I saw him get collapsed once in pure one on one situations in any of the games I watched. He uses his hands effectively well to force extra steps from defenders and utilizes a powerful club to push the upfield in quick game.
Massive and wide body frame. Possessing a true bruising downhill type of mindset, he’s at his best when allowed to overwhelm stationary or still targets. Is able to fire out of his stance and transition his movements into power. Heavy hands and punch enable him to latch onto down defenders in order to stall their process immediately. Has lots of many quick victories in that he quickly cancels out rush moves because of his brute strength, which forces his feet to go dead. When feeling threatened, he’s able to nail his feet into the ground as pillars to prevent ensuing pressure. Possessing a thick lower half, he uses it to his advantage by gathering momentum out of his stance to generate upward force in order pave running lanes on down blocks. ''
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 9, 2019 15:45:13 GMT -5
Tristan Wrifs, Iowa, MORE of an RT in the long term
''Phenomenal talent. He's got grace and nimble feet despite his looming stature -- making him a prototypical NFL offensive tackle prospect. He's got a great presence about him in both pass sets and run blocking, very effective in physically dominating the opposition regardless of what direction he's tasked with going. Impressive reach, incredible strength and a dynamic lower half, which allows him to continue to apply force to bodies and sustain momentum as he's working in space. His hip hinge is clean in his pass sets -- allowing for even cadenced steps and calm, controlled effort to square up rushers on the edge.
Possibly the freakiest athlete in college football. Size, strength, explosiveness combination is outstanding. Dominates the weight room and it shows on the field with his functional movements and powerful flashes. Stout, sturdy in his lower-half. Quickly works to replace his hands inside and controls blocks when he gets underneath the rusher. Easily can get out in space due to his explosiveness. Formidable reach blocks because of quickness out of his two and three point stance. Excellent lateral movements when necessary in pass protection. Naturally withstands bull rushes or hand swipes from defensive lineman. Generally able to recover when a defensive lineman gains an advantage, making him a tough tackle to beat for a sack.
Highly impressive in terms of mobility, body control, posture and functional strength. Carries 320 pounds extremely well across his 6-foot-5 frame. His anchor in pass pro won’t be compromised very often - his ability to leverage his hips, bow his back and maintain the width of the pocket against power rushers is outstanding. Keeps his hands held high in his stance, primed are ready to strike which leads to efficient punches. There are some technical issues but he absolutely has the foot speed to keep pace up the arc and set roadblocks against speed rushers. Explosive mover when climbing to the second level and working out in space. Grip strength is sensational and it’s game over for his opposition when the clamps are set. Zero concerns about his ability to roll his hips into contact from a three-point stance. Power can be devastating.''
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 9, 2019 16:09:02 GMT -5
Tristan Wrifs, Iowa, MORE of an RT in the long term ''Phenomenal talent. He's got grace and nimble feet despite his looming stature -- making him a prototypical NFL offensive tackle prospect. He's got a great presence about him in both pass sets and run blocking, very effective in physically dominating the opposition regardless of what direction he's tasked with going. Impressive reach, incredible strength and a dynamic lower half, which allows him to continue to apply force to bodies and sustain momentum as he's working in space. His hip hinge is clean in his pass sets -- allowing for even cadenced steps and calm, controlled effort to square up rushers on the edge.
Possibly the freakiest athlete in college football. Size, strength, explosiveness combination is outstanding. Dominates the weight room and it shows on the field with his functional movements and powerful flashes. Stout, sturdy in his lower-half. Quickly works to replace his hands inside and controls blocks when he gets underneath the rusher. Easily can get out in space due to his explosiveness. Formidable reach blocks because of quickness out of his two and three point stance. Excellent lateral movements when necessary in pass protection. Naturally withstands bull rushes or hand swipes from defensive lineman. Generally able to recover when a defensive lineman gains an advantage, making him a tough tackle to beat for a sack.
Highly impressive in terms of mobility, body control, posture and functional strength. Carries 320 pounds extremely well across his 6-foot-5 frame. His anchor in pass pro won’t be compromised very often - his ability to leverage his hips, bow his back and maintain the width of the pocket against power rushers is outstanding. Keeps his hands held high in his stance, primed are ready to strike which leads to efficient punches. There are some technical issues but he absolutely has the foot speed to keep pace up the arc and set roadblocks against speed rushers. Explosive mover when climbing to the second level and working out in space. Grip strength is sensational and it’s game over for his opposition when the clamps are set. Zero concerns about his ability to roll his hips into contact from a three-point stance. Power can be devastating.''This is my guy.... Even if he is more a RT,these days the way pass rushers move around to find the weak link RT is just as important... I saw him downfield on a screen last year and he was keeping ahead of the back,can you imagine out screen game to Barkley with Witfs downfield with him |
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Post by giantfromtheoz on Oct 9, 2019 20:44:38 GMT -5
I really like Trey Smith from Tennesse. He had a health issue last season but he is a mean machine. Bully. If he’s healthy again he’s my guy to start at RT with a future at LT.
Wouldn’t mind double dipping in this class and getting a future LT who can start at RT, as well as maybe a project later to groom for RT/compete with big George.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 10, 2019 8:18:41 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas is the name we need. Start at RT next year and the LT in 2021 after Solder is out. DJ would have his LT for years to go.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 9:52:09 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas is the name we need. Start at RT next year and the LT in 2021 after Solder is out. DJ would have his LT for years to go. Check out Wirfs If he comes out he would be more realistic being there. Besides checking all the boxes (O line factory school,check,angry ****head,check,hell,even his name ...again I quote John Madden...."with a name like Wirfs,that just sounds like a really good lineman",check) The guy is an athletic freak,he probably will run the 40 faster than some TEs in the combine when he comes out. His only issue is he is a better RT,some players are better there naturally because of being so strong right handed (whatever you call it)...which isnt that big a deal these days because of how teams scheme pass rush But just think about how you can use him in the screen game,get exotic pulling him out front on jet sweeps. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 10, 2019 10:11:22 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas is the name we need. Start at RT next year and the LT in 2021 after Solder is out. DJ would have his LT for years to go. Check out Wirfs If he comes out he would be more realistic being there. Besides checking all the boxes (O line factory school,check,angry ****head,check,hell,even his name ...again I quote John Madden...."with a name like Wirfs,that just sounds like a really good lineman",check) The guy is an athletic freak,he probably will run the 40 faster than some TEs in the combine when he comes out. His only issue is he is a better RT,some players are better there naturally because of being so strong right handed (whatever you call it)...which isnt that big a deal these days because of how teams scheme pass rush But just think about how you can use him in the screen game,get exotic pulling him out front on jet sweeps. Yeah he is a big name I keep hearing as well. Havent seen/focused him yet. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 10:27:40 GMT -5
Check out Wirfs If he comes out he would be more realistic being there. Besides checking all the boxes (O line factory school,check,angry ****head,check,hell,even his name ...again I quote John Madden...."with a name like Wirfs,that just sounds like a really good lineman",check) The guy is an athletic freak,he probably will run the 40 faster than some TEs in the combine when he comes out. His only issue is he is a better RT,some players are better there naturally because of being so strong right handed (whatever you call it)...which isnt that big a deal these days because of how teams scheme pass rush But just think about how you can use him in the screen game,get exotic pulling him out front on jet sweeps. Yeah he is a big name I keep hearing as well. Havent seen/focused him yet. To me Thomas isn't realistic (as is Chase Young or Jeudy)as there are a lot of really bad teams that will probably finish with a worse record than us unless Getty tampers and mails one of these prospects a bong mask to wear the night before the draft)so Wirfs is a lot more realistic..with this disclaimer If the Dolphins are smart and their pick from the Steelers is a top 7 pick as well and Wirfs comes out They go Tua and Wirfs,and now Wirfs' value is that of a top LT |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 14:51:59 GMT -5
Will there ever be another like him? Imagine watching a team, because you love watching a talent so generational and superb, yet it is an offensive guard. I must admit, I was far more sad not taking Nelson at 2 than any QB...this guy is a player you build an an entire offense around. You gotta love how he hustles to help up his backs after every play... A nice film study so far this year on the eventual hall of fame master of his craft, the mean intimidating.... Quenton Nelson www.stampedeblue.com/2019/10/10/20906857/film-room-quenton-nelson-establishing-himself-as-the-leagues-best-interior-linemanSorry for the trip down coulda, woulda, shoulda memory lane..spending some free time watching a lot of his tape....now back to our regularly schedules needs....2 tackles. |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 10, 2019 16:01:03 GMT -5
Tristan Wrifs, Iowa, MORE of an RT in the long term ''Phenomenal talent. He's got grace and nimble feet despite his looming stature -- making him a prototypical NFL offensive tackle prospect. He's got a great presence about him in both pass sets and run blocking, very effective in physically dominating the opposition regardless of what direction he's tasked with going. Impressive reach, incredible strength and a dynamic lower half, which allows him to continue to apply force to bodies and sustain momentum as he's working in space. His hip hinge is clean in his pass sets -- allowing for even cadenced steps and calm, controlled effort to square up rushers on the edge.
Possibly the freakiest athlete in college football. Size, strength, explosiveness combination is outstanding. Dominates the weight room and it shows on the field with his functional movements and powerful flashes. Stout, sturdy in his lower-half. Quickly works to replace his hands inside and controls blocks when he gets underneath the rusher. Easily can get out in space due to his explosiveness. Formidable reach blocks because of quickness out of his two and three point stance. Excellent lateral movements when necessary in pass protection. Naturally withstands bull rushes or hand swipes from defensive lineman. Generally able to recover when a defensive lineman gains an advantage, making him a tough tackle to beat for a sack.
Highly impressive in terms of mobility, body control, posture and functional strength. Carries 320 pounds extremely well across his 6-foot-5 frame. His anchor in pass pro won’t be compromised very often - his ability to leverage his hips, bow his back and maintain the width of the pocket against power rushers is outstanding. Keeps his hands held high in his stance, primed are ready to strike which leads to efficient punches. There are some technical issues but he absolutely has the foot speed to keep pace up the arc and set roadblocks against speed rushers. Explosive mover when climbing to the second level and working out in space. Grip strength is sensational and it’s game over for his opposition when the clamps are set. Zero concerns about his ability to roll his hips into contact from a three-point stance. Power can be devastating.''This is my guy.... Even if he is more a RT,these days the way pass rushers move around to find the weak link RT is just as important... I saw him downfield on a screen last year and he was keeping ahead of the back,can you imagine out screen game to Barkley with Witfs downfield with him Id take him OR Thomas in a heartbeat. We need tackles on BOTH sides so it couldnt hurt to get 1 of the best. Not only is Wrifs good in space, he is a BULLY in the run game |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 12, 2019 18:37:17 GMT -5
Oklahoma backs are averaging 7.1 yards a carry
Are there any o linemen worth looking into mid to late rounds ?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 23, 2019 21:00:22 GMT -5
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Witfs..
I'd be more than happy if we took him
When we pick
I think everyone here would like the pick
But predict the outcry of the uninformed who will bitch about taking a guy who is basicly a RT that early..
Hello
Modern football 101
Teams move pass rushers to find the weak link all the time.
In this day and age there is little difference between RT and LT.
Interestingly I can see a scenario where he would be the first OT off the board
Miami takes Tua and has Pittsburghs pick let's say at 5
Because Wirfs is a better RT they take him because Tua is a lefty and now his blind side is now protected
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Post by lasion2 on Oct 24, 2019 10:25:10 GMT -5
Not to kwibble there GL, but I think Miami got that pick from the Steelers for Fitzpatrick.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 24, 2019 10:34:57 GMT -5
Not to kwibble there GL, but I think Miami got that pick from the Steelers for Fitzpatrick. They did. Why Pittsburgh gave away their first AFTERBen was lost for the season might be an all time horrible move considering it seems they are having a Giants like injury riddled season on top of it that would probably get them a top 5 pick had they kept it. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 26, 2019 22:48:32 GMT -5
So I've only seen Wirfs play 2 games and he to my eyes looks legit
Go to BBV i keep seeing people say he is overrated every week and such
Then again the major clique there (the Beezer Brigade)shame and hate every prospect that's not a linebacker there and love to downgrade players,especially on offense and the line
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 6:13:10 GMT -5
RT Tristan Wirfs and especially LT Alaric Jackson both having average years for Iowa...gonna need the combines
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 1, 2019 13:39:55 GMT -5
So where are the scouting reports?
My observation on some other guys
Both tackles look legit on Auburn (Prince and Driskoll)
Oregon seems to have a nice prospect,will watch tomorrow night
Overall it looks to be a much deeper O line class all across the board once you get past Thomas
The key is not to panic if Thomas is taken ahead of you,as yet again I'm seeing names rise up the board that are day 2 at best values that people will hype and teams will reach for.The guy you reach for at 13 is the same player you get at 49,in that both are projects that need to be coached,as we have seen the worst thing one can do is take a guy who is very raw and throw them into the fire day ond at LT.
If Thomas is the 2nd non qb taken inside the top 4 and you have the 5th pick,trade back and get numerous day 2 picks and with your 1st go BPA somewhere else,Delpit,Simmons,Lamb,Brown.
Getting 2 extra day 2 picks this year you can build a big chunk of your O line between picks 2 and 4 if you want
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 19:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 2, 2019 20:24:53 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas I didn’t watch the whole game, but from what I saw, Thomas looked dominant |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 20:46:45 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas I didn’t watch the whole game, but from what I saw, Thomas looked dominant Yeah, he's the real deal. Watched the entire game...gotta love the SEC and the fan excitement with these big games. He plays against such great competition as well....he is such a smart kid...technician. He and Chase Young are, IMHO, the two top non QB players to be chosen. VERY good chance we lose out on him if we go past 5 or 6 in the order.  |
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Post by lasion2 on Nov 5, 2019 13:17:36 GMT -5
Can we draft Joe Rudolph (wisco OL coach)?
His guys tend to know how to pick up stunts and maybe, you know put a hand on the best DL here and there
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 5, 2019 14:01:37 GMT -5
Can we draft Joe Rudolph (wisco OL coach)? His guys tend to know how to pick up stunts and maybe, you know put a hand on the best DL here and there Hire him more likely |
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Post by jaxnygmen on Nov 5, 2019 19:39:22 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia.... The clear cut top option at OT '' You ask the prospect making machine to create an offensive tackle and they come out looking like Thomas. Thick frame with very little bad weight and long arms. Mobility stands out, especially his short area quickness. Springy footwork when challenged with wide, speed rushers. Does such a great job framing rushers in space and setting up road blocks up the arc. Has terrific length and he knows how to maximize it. Wonderful job of playing with extension and winning with first contact. Does well to place and fit his hands. Timing and location of his punch is precise. Delivers powerful punches that stun pads. Easily absorbs power and sets a sturdy anchor. Pocket width won’t be compromised in pass protection. Brings the fight in pass protection and has experience executing a variety of sets. Love how he rolls his hips into contact as a drive blocker. Outstanding power throughout his frame. Executes with good leverage, posture and body control. Has started every game across his first two seasons in Athens. Experienced executing pro concepts and techniques.
What an absolute juggernaut Thomas is -- he'll beat the pants off of whomever is lined up across from him. He's successfully pushed around some of the best defenders in the SEC over his two years as a starter and he shined bright in 2018 at Left Tackle, tacking over for Isaiah Wynn. Thomas has powerful hands and an even more potent anchor, once he drops his hips and sets his base, it is game over. I don't think I saw him get collapsed once in pure one on one situations in any of the games I watched. He uses his hands effectively well to force extra steps from defenders and utilizes a powerful club to push the upfield in quick game.
Massive and wide body frame. Possessing a true bruising downhill type of mindset, he’s at his best when allowed to overwhelm stationary or still targets. Is able to fire out of his stance and transition his movements into power. Heavy hands and punch enable him to latch onto down defenders in order to stall their process immediately. Has lots of many quick victories in that he quickly cancels out rush moves because of his brute strength, which forces his feet to go dead. When feeling threatened, he’s able to nail his feet into the ground as pillars to prevent ensuing pressure. Possessing a thick lower half, he uses it to his advantage by gathering momentum out of his stance to generate upward force in order pave running lanes on down blocks. ''Strongly agree!!! If we have a top five pick and he is still available when we pick it should be a no brainer. Georgia has a couple of good linemen. Kindley is a good guard. I also think we could use a better center. Halapio was not a very good in college when he played at UF!!!! Should have never let Richburg slip away. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 7, 2019 12:33:03 GMT -5
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia.... The clear cut top option at OT '' You ask the prospect making machine to create an offensive tackle and they come out looking like Thomas. Thick frame with very little bad weight and long arms. Mobility stands out, especially his short area quickness. Springy footwork when challenged with wide, speed rushers. Does such a great job framing rushers in space and setting up road blocks up the arc. Has terrific length and he knows how to maximize it. Wonderful job of playing with extension and winning with first contact. Does well to place and fit his hands. Timing and location of his punch is precise. Delivers powerful punches that stun pads. Easily absorbs power and sets a sturdy anchor. Pocket width won’t be compromised in pass protection. Brings the fight in pass protection and has experience executing a variety of sets. Love how he rolls his hips into contact as a drive blocker. Outstanding power throughout his frame. Executes with good leverage, posture and body control. Has started every game across his first two seasons in Athens. Experienced executing pro concepts and techniques.
What an absolute juggernaut Thomas is -- he'll beat the pants off of whomever is lined up across from him. He's successfully pushed around some of the best defenders in the SEC over his two years as a starter and he shined bright in 2018 at Left Tackle, tacking over for Isaiah Wynn. Thomas has powerful hands and an even more potent anchor, once he drops his hips and sets his base, it is game over. I don't think I saw him get collapsed once in pure one on one situations in any of the games I watched. He uses his hands effectively well to force extra steps from defenders and utilizes a powerful club to push the upfield in quick game.
Massive and wide body frame. Possessing a true bruising downhill type of mindset, he’s at his best when allowed to overwhelm stationary or still targets. Is able to fire out of his stance and transition his movements into power. Heavy hands and punch enable him to latch onto down defenders in order to stall their process immediately. Has lots of many quick victories in that he quickly cancels out rush moves because of his brute strength, which forces his feet to go dead. When feeling threatened, he’s able to nail his feet into the ground as pillars to prevent ensuing pressure. Possessing a thick lower half, he uses it to his advantage by gathering momentum out of his stance to generate upward force in order pave running lanes on down blocks. ''Strongly agree!!! If we have a top five pick and he is still available when we pick it should be a no brainer. Georgia has a couple of good linemen. Kindley is a good guard. I also think we could use a better center. Halapio was not a very good in college when he played at UF!!!! Should have never let Richburg slip away. Very deep class of linemen that while not blue chippers are starting types if given a little seasoning/coaching (preferably by someone other than Hal Hunter), A very deep C class that would be instant improvements over what we have. Halapio is a RFA so I would bring him back as a 1 year stop gap and force a draft pick to beat out in camp.. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 7, 2019 15:46:14 GMT -5
Strongly agree!!! If we have a top five pick and he is still available when we pick it should be a no brainer. Georgia has a couple of good linemen. Kindley is a good guard. I also think we could use a better center. Halapio was not a very good in college when he played at UF!!!! Should have never let Richburg slip away. Very deep class of linemen that while not blue chippers are starting types if given a little seasoning/coaching (preferably by someone other than Hal Hunter), A very deep C class that would be instant improvements over what we have. Halapio is a RFA so I would bring him back as a 1 year stop gap and force a draft pick to beat out in camp.. I think Pulley looked better at the end of last year, than Pio has this one. I understand he's hurt, and we'll see Pulley this week, so one question may be answered |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 7, 2019 17:10:15 GMT -5
Very deep class of linemen that while not blue chippers are starting types if given a little seasoning/coaching (preferably by someone other than Hal Hunter), A very deep C class that would be instant improvements over what we have. Halapio is a RFA so I would bring him back as a 1 year stop gap and force a draft pick to beat out in camp.. I think Pulley looked better at the end of last year, than Pio has this one. I understand he's hurt, and we'll see Pulley this week, so one question may be answered Yeah this isnt nessisarily a bad thing with this injury as maybe Pulley can Wally pipp Halapio this year. He I think is signed for 3 years,but that wouldn't preclude me from taking a C if one of the good ones is a BPA somewhere in the day 2-early day 3 region of the draft. Quality depth and competition for jobs is always the best way to build and improve a roster |
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 7, 2019 17:15:59 GMT -5
Tristan Wrifs, Iowa, MORE of an RT in the long term ''Phenomenal talent. He's got grace and nimble feet despite his looming stature -- making him a prototypical NFL offensive tackle prospect. He's got a great presence about him in both pass sets and run blocking, very effective in physically dominating the opposition regardless of what direction he's tasked with going. Impressive reach, incredible strength and a dynamic lower half, which allows him to continue to apply force to bodies and sustain momentum as he's working in space. His hip hinge is clean in his pass sets -- allowing for even cadenced steps and calm, controlled effort to square up rushers on the edge.
Possibly the freakiest athlete in college football. Size, strength, explosiveness combination is outstanding. Dominates the weight room and it shows on the field with his functional movements and powerful flashes. Stout, sturdy in his lower-half. Quickly works to replace his hands inside and controls blocks when he gets underneath the rusher. Easily can get out in space due to his explosiveness. Formidable reach blocks because of quickness out of his two and three point stance. Excellent lateral movements when necessary in pass protection. Naturally withstands bull rushes or hand swipes from defensive lineman. Generally able to recover when a defensive lineman gains an advantage, making him a tough tackle to beat for a sack.
Highly impressive in terms of mobility, body control, posture and functional strength. Carries 320 pounds extremely well across his 6-foot-5 frame. His anchor in pass pro won’t be compromised very often - his ability to leverage his hips, bow his back and maintain the width of the pocket against power rushers is outstanding. Keeps his hands held high in his stance, primed are ready to strike which leads to efficient punches. There are some technical issues but he absolutely has the foot speed to keep pace up the arc and set roadblocks against speed rushers. Explosive mover when climbing to the second level and working out in space. Grip strength is sensational and it’s game over for his opposition when the clamps are set. Zero concerns about his ability to roll his hips into contact from a three-point stance. Power can be devastating.''Why a RT? Seems super-athletic |
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