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Post by Morehead State on Oct 10, 2019 10:56:17 GMT -5
If the team is truly rebuilding then signing Solder was a big mistake. There are many teams in need of a LT and none of them signed him so why did the Giants have to when the team was going nowhere. They still haven't drafted a decent oline tackle to be groomed which is confusing.. They needed a stopgap there to buy time to get a young guy in to take over Hated ths contract but I understand the thinking I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:59:04 GMT -5
They needed a stopgap there to buy time to get a young guy in to take over Hated ths contract but I understand the thinking I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
So what?
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 10, 2019 11:02:13 GMT -5
They needed a stopgap there to buy time to get a young guy in to take over Hated ths contract but I understand the thinking The contract is atrocious but I loved the concept and it's Economics 101 (Supply & Demand). It was a new GM that was actively trying to improve a major position of need and he signed the best available LT on the market. To anyone who bitches about that move, tell me a viable alternative that doesn't consist of having our rookie quarterback shell-shocked and developmentally set back.... Giving an average player all pro money is not good business. Economics 101 is not to over spend for the sake of fixing an issue. It now created a bigger issue financially. A viable option? Don’t break the bank for an average player, because as it shows we still need a left tackle and are stuck with Solder a minimum for another 2 years. We basically put a bandaid on a gun shot wound with this move.
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Post by jb456 on Oct 10, 2019 11:06:11 GMT -5
They needed a stopgap there to buy time to get a young guy in to take over Hated ths contract but I understand the thinking I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
What was the alternative?........Crickets.......
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 10, 2019 11:06:23 GMT -5
I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
So what? So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 11:07:31 GMT -5
If the team is truly rebuilding then signing Solder was a big mistake. There are many teams in need of a LT and none of them signed him so why did the Giants have to when the team was going nowhere. They still haven't drafted a decent oline tackle to be groomed which is confusing.. I disagree 100%. Solder's signing was a great decision. They have a truckload of cap space next year and they still don't have a LT of the future. Do you think Joe Schmo anyone can be a Left Tackle and protect Daniel Jones Blindside better than Solder? Do I need to remind you of the Ereck Flower years? How would a nobody left tackle aid in Daniel Jones's development? People were half joking about Daniel Jones being Dereck Carr'd. Well the chances of being Dereck Carr'd would go up like 50% if a chump like Ereck Flowers was protecting Daniel Jones's blindside. No development, just injury and turning into a shell shocked QB with no upside. They should've drafted someone in 2018 to be the LT. That would've been my plan when I think they needed to build the oline 1st. Solder at times looks like any Joe schmo can be better than him so there is that. Can you stop it with Flowers already if that's your main point to make about this bad oline then it's best we move on from the discussion..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 11:08:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
What was the alternative?........Crickets....... The draft is the alternative.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 10, 2019 11:10:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
So what? All GMs miss as we have all tragically borne witness to over the past decade. Some of his moves have worked, others haven’t. I didn’t like Beckham deal but I understood it. I agree that Solder was conceptually good but practically poor and I was thrilled with the Harrison and Vernon deals. Unlike most addition by subtraction deals, I don’t see any talent sacrifice with those too unlike the Beckham deal.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 10, 2019 11:15:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry but making a "stopgap" LT the highest paid O lineman in NFL history seems stupid.
The bottom line is that Dave thought he could "win now". That's why he kept Eli. That's why he brought in Ogeltree and signed Solder.
He was wrong.
What was the alternative?........Crickets....... The alternative was to rip the band aid off when he got here. It was NOT to sign Nick Solder to a huge deal. It was to sign a decent vet who could hold down the fort. (which BTW is what Solder is but his salary suggests otherwise) It was NOT to trade draft capital for another mediocre, high paid LB in Ogeltree. It was to let Eli go after the 2018 season when there was very little cap consequence and start anew with your QB of the future.
It was to keep your younger, talented players as best you can and build your team.
By dumping all these guys he put us in cap hell....which prevented us from bringing in veteran depth which every team needs. Which also contributes to the development of young players.
Dave made the calculation that we could win in 2018. He convinced himself that Eli was the Eli of old. That all he needed was a good LT to protect him. THAT decision cost us at least two years in our team's rebuild.
I give him credit for drafting Daniel Jones....but he still couldn't let Eli go....for God knows why. He tried to split the baby and we have this mess as a product.
So the alternative was to rebuild this team starting day 1. Not play it halfway.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 10, 2019 11:15:59 GMT -5
So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
The idea that all of these issues could have been addressed and resolved in his tenure here is laugh out loud funny. It left him with no weapons? There are some folks here that are so deluded that they actually believe the Giants weapons were recently among the best in the league. Now that is some funny if not completely agenda driven nonsense.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 10, 2019 11:18:53 GMT -5
What was the alternative?........Crickets....... The alternative was to rip the band aid off when he got here. It was NOT to sign Nick Solder to a huge deal. It was to sign a decent vet who could hold down the fort. (which BTW is what Solder is but his salary suggests otherwise) It was NOT to trade draft capital for another mediocre, high paid LB in Ogeltree. It was to let Eli go after the 2018 season when there was very little cap consequence and start anew with your QB of the future.
It was to keep your younger, talented players as best you can and build your team.
By dumping all these guys he put us in cap hell....which prevented us from bringing in veteran depth which every team needs. Which also contributes to the development of young players.
Dave made the calculation that we could win in 2018. He convinced himself that Eli was the Eli of old. That all he needed was a good LT to protect him. THAT decision cost us at least two years in our team's rebuild.
I give him credit for drafting Daniel Jones....but he still couldn't let Eli go....for God knows why. He tried to split the baby and we have this mess as a product.
So the alternative was to rebuild this team starting day 1. Not play it halfway.
I can see that ripping it all down upon arrival could have potentially been a better approach, maybe, maybe not. Keeping Manning had essentially no bearing on any of these things. The rebuild hasn’t been delayed in any material way shape or form due to that.
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Post by jb456 on Oct 10, 2019 11:27:35 GMT -5
What was the alternative?........Crickets....... The draft is the alternative. So reach for a LT, like Ereck flowers? What draft pick are you replacing for this LT? There is an astronomical chance you aren't getting a better than Solder LT outside the 2nd round. So in 2018, are you letting go of Barkley or Hernandez? In 2019, you not picking your QB of the future Daniel Jones over a LT? You not drafted Dexter Lawrence, DT was also a major position of need and he has been doing very well, Baker? year maybe, but Corner was also a major position of need. See, it's not that easy, right?
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 10, 2019 11:30:03 GMT -5
So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
The idea that all of these issues could have been addressed and resolved in his tenure here is laugh out loud funny. It left him with no weapons? There are some folks here that are so deluded that they actually believe the Giants weapons were recently among the best in the league. Now that is some funny if not completely agenda driven nonsense. No weapons because when guys get hurt, we have no one to step it. NO veteran depth.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 10, 2019 11:30:28 GMT -5
So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
LOL, the "plain B" as you call it was a start .As a GM you can only do so much and as I have said in the past he doesn't owe the fans any explanation to what or why he is doing anything. Maybe you should take a look at the way your buddy Reese left the team first. Again the dead cap money is more a result of Reese that DG and other than Odell who was hurt most the time any way what weapons has DG taken away from DJ? I don’t know what to say about this comment. I’m not even a Reese fan but it comes to a point where have you All gone mad? Now we’re blaming former management for our current general managers decisions? So in other words Reese made Gettleman pay Beckham, trade him, trade Vernon, Snacks, Apple? Is it McAdoos fault for Shurmur having a 7-14 record so far with the Giants ?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 11:32:49 GMT -5
What was the alternative?........Crickets....... The alternative was to rip the band aid off when he got here. It was NOT to sign Nick Solder to a huge deal. It was to sign a decent vet who could hold down the fort. (which BTW is what Solder is but his salary suggests otherwise) It was NOT to trade draft capital for another mediocre, high paid LB in Ogeltree. It was to let Eli go after the 2018 season when there was very little cap consequence and start anew with your QB of the future.
It was to keep your younger, talented players as best you can and build your team.
By dumping all these guys he put us in cap hell....which prevented us from bringing in veteran depth which every team needs. Which also contributes to the development of young players.
Dave made the calculation that we could win in 2018. He convinced himself that Eli was the Eli of old. That all he needed was a good LT to protect him. THAT decision cost us at least two years in our team's rebuild.
I give him credit for drafting Daniel Jones....but he still couldn't let Eli go....for God knows why. He tried to split the baby and we have this mess as a product.
So the alternative was to rebuild this team starting day 1. Not play it halfway.
Halfway? We have under 10 players left from the opening day 53 of 2017.Unheard of roster turnover in the cap era This is Cowboys 1989 rebuild roster turnover. Very good chance they are under 5 players left opening day 2020 He knew 2019 was going to be a dead year and a throwaway developmental year when he admitted his mistake midway 2018 with his roster purge then.That money was going to be on the books this year one way or another. What band aid that would have prevented a young player getting valuable regular season game experience should we have gotten with money saved from Eli? My only gripe is we should have gotten more from Odell with how much of a putz Dorsey is,maybe throw in Ellison and get back Njoku and get a legit playmaker at TE opposite Engram This is what an actual old school total blow up and rebuild looks like,you don't throw band aids on a rebuild like this And the 40 million in dead money prevents us from panic band aids. Having what seems to be the perfect qb for Shurmer and his system (matches like this are what elevates QBs way above their scouting report ceiling into elite status)is actually going to accelerate the process,especially if he proves this year he can coax production out of anyone on the field (like Brady,,Brees and Rodgers)with the skillsets he has shown he has already that can do this. Don't worry about this year,it was never about 2019.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 11:37:16 GMT -5
So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
The idea that all of these issues could have been addressed and resolved in his tenure here is laugh out loud funny. It left him with no weapons? There are some folks here that are so deluded that they actually believe the Giants weapons were recently among the best in the league. Now that is some funny if not completely agenda driven nonsense. And those same people still insist we are fine at WR and think recievers are a luxury,even staring into the possibility that Sheppard might have to call it a day and leave is with only Slayton and Tate next year...and state in an arrogantly way that the Gianys never won with good recievers and point to the prehistoric Suoer Bowk 25 win as their evidence
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 10, 2019 11:41:45 GMT -5
I really don't understand your line of thinking on this. I really don't. All of the stuff you are calling "blah blah blah" are actual facts!! Do you think the mess he inherited was going to be fixed overnight? Are you an "instant gratification" millennial? We are all sick of losing, but you have to be more realistic. This team has sucked for years. Give the ****ing guy a break and let's see how things play out. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. That’s where people misconstrue instant gratification for not having faith in the final results. 7-14 since becoming the GM those are facts! Everyone here saying it takes time it will work out, are met with so far it hasn’t been shown. At the end of the day wins matter, and as it has been shown throughout the league a rebuild can happen in a timely fashion. Not give him 4 years and let’s hope it all works out. Because that’s all you got is hope, you have nothing to back your comments. Where are the results? Where is the progression that their is light at the end of the tunnel? You’re assuming it will get better, you’re trusting that he will fix what is wrong with the franchise. I on the other hand do not trust he will fix what is hurting this team, I feel he has made them worse. And I am giving the guy a break, it’s been two weeks since I’ve ridiculed and mocked the man. I call that giving him a HUGE break. Do you get 15 draft picks a year No that is a fact, when your franchise is hit by a draft nuke and obliterated over a span going from 2009 to 2017 what in anyones right mind would make a person think that in 18 to 20 months and 2 drafts that is gonna get fixed, having 40 mill in dead cap has more to do with past mistakes and ownership wanting to sign their golden boy, all these Reese Fan boys need to hold on they gave JR 11 years most were bad drafting years and living off the nucleus left behind, they have drafted well the last 2 years but it takes more than 2 or 3 years to fix this mess, while the fan boys moan about DG he keeps plugging, top 5 special teams # 14 OL salary cap will be fixed 2020 and the dead weight is gone, being fare is judging what this team looks like 2021 and 2022.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 11:42:57 GMT -5
So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
So what? Plan A didn't work so Plan B had to be done. I disagree that plan B was a "scramble". I think plan B wasn't plan A because of all the dead money it was going to create and the losses we would incur, making 2019 season a lost season. Anyone expecting anything better right now is fooling themselves.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 10, 2019 11:45:43 GMT -5
So then Plan B was a scramble....and not well thought out. It left us with $40MM in dead cap money. It's left Daniel Jones with no weapons. It's left our defense with no depth and marginal starters.
That miscalculation left us unable to fill out our roster...so when injuries come, and they always do, we have no answer.
LOL, the "plain B" as you call it was a start .As a GM you can only do so much and as I have said in the past he doesn't owe the fans any explanation to what or why he is doing anything. Maybe you should take a look at the way your buddy Reese left the team first. Again the dead cap money is more a result of Reese that DG and other than Odell who was hurt most the time any way what weapons has DG taken away from DJ? I get that Red but it started with a terrible miscalculation of what our team was. Clearly, given Dave's moves, he believed the 2018 Giants were a "win now" team. When halfway through he realized his mistake, he scrambled to dump players.....which continued into the off season. The result of "plan B" was a huge cap hit with players not on the team and no veteran depth.
AND we were stuck with Ogeltree, Solder and Eli's contract.....along with all the dead cap money.
So next year we will have half a team and a lot of cap room.....what is he going to do then? Bring it overpaid players like Solder and Ogeltree were?
Are we going to be back to square one then?
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 10, 2019 11:47:38 GMT -5
I don’t know what to say about this comment. I’m not even a Reese fan but it comes to a point where have you All gone mad? Now we’re blaming former management for our current general managers decisions? So in other words Reese made Gettleman pay Beckham, trade him, trade Vernon, Snacks, Apple? Is it McAdoos fault for Shurmur having a 7-14 record so far with the Giants ? Did Reese Sign Vernon, Apple ,Flowers,JPP . Upper Management paid Odell Ray Charles can see that and it backfired. Those signing were designed to have the players play out their contracts.
All those free agents were in their primes. All 26 or younger. The dead money came when Dave decided to dump them.
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Post by jb456 on Oct 10, 2019 11:48:47 GMT -5
What was the alternative?........Crickets....... The alternative was to rip the band aid off when he got here. It was NOT to sign Nick Solder to a huge deal. It was to sign a decent vet who could hold down the fort. (which BTW is what Solder is but his salary suggests otherwise) It was NOT to trade draft capital for another mediocre, high paid LB in Ogeltree. It was to let Eli go after the 2018 season when there was very little cap consequence and start anew with your QB of the future.
It was to keep your younger, talented players as best you can and build your team.
By dumping all these guys he put us in cap hell....which prevented us from bringing in veteran depth which every team needs. Which also contributes to the development of young players.
Dave made the calculation that we could win in 2018. He convinced himself that Eli was the Eli of old. That all he needed was a good LT to protect him. THAT decision cost us at least two years in our team's rebuild.
I give him credit for drafting Daniel Jones....but he still couldn't let Eli go....for God knows why. He tried to split the baby and we have this mess as a product.
So the alternative was to rebuild this team starting day 1. Not play it halfway.
You make some solid points and Gettleman is definitely not above reproach, but the question still remains, who would be playing LT TODAY if they didn't sign Solder. Would you give up Barkley, Hernandez, Daniel Jones or Dexter Lawrence for a potential LT? All of these players look like great draft picks. IMO Gettleman has been hitting the first two rounds pretty well. Would you want to see a Ereck Flowers clone protecting Jones's backside? The disgusting contract was a direct result of the ineptitude of the prior regime. A necessary evil that even with hind-site, looks pretty damn good to me considering the alternative. Also, regarding the CAP situation, he about 50% of that issue direct result of Reese's last ditch effort to buy his way out of his terrible drafts. The OBJ situations is the worst contract that Gettleman handed out . Given Gettlemen's history, do you believe that OBJ contract decision was 100% from him? And even if it was, he traded that malcontent for essential Dexter Lawrence, Ximines and Peppers. Also, check this OBJ article out. The Giants made out big time on that trade... dawgpounddaily.com/2019/10/09/cleveland-browns-are-losers-in-off-season-trade-with-giants/
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 11:49:41 GMT -5
And those same people still insist we are fine at WR I have said more than once we can "grow our own" we don't have to sign and spend on one. Via the draft agreed. Signing and spending on one with how much the good ones cost is stupid. But there are a select group on her that are "anybody but a reciever" until mr irrelevant,those are the delusional clueless ones that don't understand the BPA gets you the best football players,including recievers
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 10, 2019 11:51:27 GMT -5
It would help your argument if ANY of the bad dudes (your term) was doing a goddam thing with their new teams. The Zeitler for Vernon swap has been completelt ignored by you in any of your posts. The roster is significantly younger and cheaper than it was last year with a ton of cap room this off season and a starting QB on a rookie contract. The chances are just as great that you will be eating crow than you are right about DG. He has an agenda There is a group of agenda based posters that come out every now and then, it isn't perfect but most people who have followed this team and their draft know 2009 to 2017 they were putrid and the laughing stock of the NFL come draft time, that wasn't getting fixed a year and a half or 2 years, we will all know where this team is at the end of year 4 and 5 and I fully expect this GM will be here unless health or something else knocks him out, as I said if the talent pol was bigger and you got 15 or 16 picks a year you might have a chance for a 2 year turn around.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 10, 2019 11:54:58 GMT -5
I've come to realize with this team that you have to look at what they do, not what they say.
This year, they said that Eli was the starter, he has a lot left, wouldn't rule out re-signing him, etc. What did they do? Picked a QB at #6 in the draft and let Eli play out the last year of his deal.
This year they said that this was not a re-build, that we could be competitive this year. What did they do? Took dead cap hits this year (which will be gone next year) to get rid of some guys and started our rookie QB in game 3. Didn't sign any veteran RB's or LB's when the injuries hit.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 12:00:31 GMT -5
Via the draft agreed. Signing and spending on one with how much the good ones cost is stupid. That and we have had luck with the UDRFA pool , just saying . Yeah I'm not a fan of getting used WRs (as opposing to paying for other players at other positions to plug an occasional hole in a win now window) Maybe I'm spoiled because we have developed so many since 2007 this way
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 10, 2019 12:00:32 GMT -5
Did Reese Sign Vernon, Apple ,Flowers,JPP . Upper Management paid Odell Ray Charles can see that and it backfired. Those signing were designed to have the players play out their contracts.
All those free agents were in their primes. All 26 or younger. The dead money came when Dave decided to dump them.
And not one was in the top 5 of their position group Snacks was as a run stopper but DLs have to at least get some pressure, they were all massively over paid especially OV and JJ/ JPP wasn't a top 10 DE at the time either, how do you not see the Giants were completely embarrassed as an organization in 2014 and 2015 both years the defense was pathetic more record breaking garbage defense and an OL that couldn't keep them off the field those signing were desperation just like the Solder signing and Omameh, god man that free agent spending spree was the final nail in making this franchise the clown posse of the NFL.
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Post by jb456 on Oct 10, 2019 12:01:40 GMT -5
There is a group of agenda based posters that come out every now and then, it isn't perfect but most people who have followed this team and their draft know 2009 to 2017 they were putrid and the laughing stock of the NFL come draft time, that wasn't getting fixed a year and a half or 2 years, we will all know where this team is at the end of year 4 and 5 and I fully expect this GM will be here unless health or something else knocks him out, as I said if the talent pol was bigger and you got 15 or 16 picks a year you might have a chance for a 2 year turn around. 100% agree. I want the Giants to be a perennially good to great team. I'm am not looking for an instant gratification GM that is making decisions to win a few extra games in a go nowhere year to save his own butt. I see a team in rebuild mode with their QB of the future (Major part of a team) and a bunch of rookies developing. I just don't understand threads like this because the majority of the board knew that this was a rebuilding year and a year to get Jones some experience and crap ton of dead money.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2019 12:03:08 GMT -5
There is a group of agenda based posters that come out every now and then, it isn't perfect but most people who have followed this team and their draft know 2009 to 2017 they were putrid and the laughing stock of the NFL come draft time, that wasn't getting fixed a year and a half or 2 years, we will all know where this team is at the end of year 4 and 5 and I fully expect this GM will be here unless health or something else knocks him out, as I said if the talent pol was bigger and you got 15 or 16 picks a year you might have a chance for a 2 year turn around. That guy's agenda is not football related unfortunately (I think I told you via PM)
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 10, 2019 12:10:15 GMT -5
I've come to realize with this team that you have to look at what they do, not what they say. This year, they said that Eli was the starter, he has a lot left, wouldn't rule out re-signing him, etc. What did they do? Picked a QB at #6 in the draft and let Eli play out the last year of his deal. This year they said that this was not a re-build, that we could be competitive this year. What did they do? Took dead cap hits this year (which will be gone next year) to get rid of some guys and started our rookie QB in game 3. Didn't sign any veteran RB's or LB's when the injuries hit. No Gm is gonna get up to the podium and tell the fan base we are starting from scratch here we have a long rebuild and a lot of work to do here, and he definitely isn't throwing the QB under the bus what he tells ownership and Eli are 2 different things then what goes out for public consumption, Mara said it was gonna take time he knew and knew it because the GM told him, he owes it to his boss not to us, I think his biggest mistake was trying to salvage the guys that were traded but then again maybe he waited hoping to build up a market.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 12:10:30 GMT -5
The draft is the alternative. So reach for a LT, like Ereck flowers? What draft pick are you replacing for this LT? There is an astronomical chance you aren't getting a better than Solder LT outside the 2nd round. So in 2018, are you letting go of Barkley or Hernandez? In 2019, you not picking your QB of the future Daniel Jones over a LT? You not drafted Dexter Lawrence, DT was also a major position of need and he has been doing very well, Baker? year maybe, but Corner was also a major position of need. See, it's not that easy, right? You really need to chill out and remember what was written before. Trade the 2018 #2 pick for a few more high end picks and you have multiple opportunities to select a LT. Seems like the Colts nailed it that year and the Giants had a better slot to trade with and they didn't. Nobody ever said it was easy so why even say that? You do know that this is just a discussion on why some people aren't drinking the Getty cool-aid and think he's not doing a good enough job? BTW.. The Baker move also took a way a 4th and a 5th so there's two more decent picks that were traded for a player who really needs to improve year 2.
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