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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 20, 2019 15:10:34 GMT -5
Shurmur is a moron. HC he is not. OC he stinks. OLINE STINKS every week. This one is on Shurmur. He is a losing coach. Thats on our genius GM.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 20, 2019 15:10:43 GMT -5
He is light years ahead of where Eli was after his 5th start Not seeing it. Then you didn’t see Eli as a rookie
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Post by allnygin on Oct 20, 2019 15:11:19 GMT -5
Danny jones is a really bad rookie at the moment. Hasn't learned a thing these past few weeks that was clear today. BTW the cards defense is garbage. He is light years ahead of where Eli was after his 5th start Yeah I get it. Luckily for the Giants Eli worked out. Hopefully we can say the same about danny. Regardless, he's been very bad even for a rookie.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Oct 20, 2019 15:11:28 GMT -5
Shumur gets most of the blame, you have a more athletic QB, why not move him around and roll him out more Because hes an *****
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 20, 2019 15:11:44 GMT -5
Nothing to do with the Oline? He was sacked 8 times and hit 15 plus times 8 sacks, but you can’t hold the football that long in the NFL. You mean for 2-3 seconds? Keep seeing what you wanna see.
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Post by desertash on Oct 20, 2019 15:12:06 GMT -5
He made at minimum a handful of completely boneheaded plays ...with time...or complete lack of awareness and keeps making the same mistakes. That's a serious problem
Riiiiiight.... Ample film evidence today...not disputable. He needs to do far better than looking like he has the last 3 games. Bad even for any rookie.
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Post by giantsforce on Oct 20, 2019 15:12:06 GMT -5
Danny jones is a really bad rookie at the moment. Hasn't learned a thing these past few weeks that was clear today. BTW the cards defense is garbage. He is light years ahead of where Eli was after his 5th start Not really, the only difference is that he can scramble better than Eli and he is worse than Eli in securing the ball. I am not a fan of Eli but Jones acts and sounds like Eli. you the same line "I 've got to play better" etc, etc.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Oct 20, 2019 15:12:27 GMT -5
Then you didn’t see Eli as a rookie Yes that's true but it does not give the coaches a free pass for their performances!!
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Post by giantsrock on Oct 20, 2019 15:12:28 GMT -5
Gabril Peppers stepping his game up, I like the kid a lot. He had four tackles today. That's pretty meh.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 20, 2019 15:12:36 GMT -5
Danny jones is a really bad rookie at the moment. Hasn't learned a thing these past few weeks that was clear today. BTW the cards defense is garbage. He is light years ahead of where Eli was after his 5th start Nope. He is right where Eli was. Looking terrible with a great pass mixed in every now and then.
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Post by desertash on Oct 20, 2019 15:13:10 GMT -5
Then you didn’t see Eli as a rookie bullshit, been watching since the early 70s good to see the mob is in total denial right now can give it but not take it
Jones earned an F today, plain and simple and no excuses
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Post by ovidius on Oct 20, 2019 15:13:59 GMT -5
In the post game interview... Shurmur just said he called the 3rd & 18 draw...
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Post by desertash on Oct 20, 2019 15:14:08 GMT -5
Then you didn’t see Eli as a rookie Yes that's true but it does not give the coaches a free pass for their performances!! I lit the coaching up first today. It's obvious Shurmur needs to go...now.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 20, 2019 15:14:23 GMT -5
He is light years ahead of where Eli was after his 5th start Not seeing it. If I remember correctly, I believe that was Eli’s low point Of his rookie year, vs. the Ravens. Eli improved drastically after that, let’s hope the same happens for Jones.
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Post by desertash on Oct 20, 2019 15:14:38 GMT -5
He is light years ahead of where Eli was after his 5th start Yeah I get it. Luckily for the Giants Eli worked out. Hopefully we can say the same about danny. Regardless, he's been very bad even for a rookie. this ^
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 20, 2019 15:15:08 GMT -5
Then you didn’t see Eli as a rookie bullshit, been watching since the early 70s good to see the mod is in total denial right now can give it but not take it
Jones earned an F today, plain and simple and no excuses
Then you need to refresh your recollection and go back and look at Eli’s stats for his first 5 games
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 20, 2019 15:15:16 GMT -5
Then you didn’t see Eli as a rookie bullshit, been watching since the early 70s good to see the mod is in total denial right now can give it but not take it
Jones earned an F today, plain and simple and no excuses
Not one person is saying Jones played good. Fact is this! He’s playing on a awful football team, led by an even worse HC. What do you want a rookie QB to do? Serious question.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Oct 20, 2019 15:15:17 GMT -5
The draw on 3rd down was not a bed call. (already decided to go fot it on 4th) 3rd and 20 is a tough spot. Barkley does have extreme elusiveness. Reasonable that he might make 10-15, or even break it for more.
Who knows if throwing would've been better? Incomplete, INT, sack, strip sack?
Draw to Saquon was a decent call.
For anybody who wants to smear Shurmur for the call- what call do you think would've been better?
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Post by lexington11 on Oct 20, 2019 15:15:37 GMT -5
You didn’t like how he handles 4th and 15, 3rd and 23 from his own 3 and 4th and 23 from his own 3? He had 4-5 plays where we'd be talking about Eli ...for effin' weeks ...that's how bad those were. but he's not eli he's a ROOKIE learning on the fly behind a horrible oline and worse play calling. these things will happen. let's not pretend that 8 sacks and 15 or so qb hits didnt contribute to some of this. relax.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Oct 20, 2019 15:15:53 GMT -5
Jones was terrible Shurmur was horrendous Bettcher was pathetic The defense was atrocious against the run (first half mainly) Bethea is useless Solder is a revolving door (OL in general was really bad)
We are a bad football team and will have an early draft pick yet again. DG has done some good things and some absolutely horrible things. Very least coaching staff should be canned and DG should have his seat getting much warmer, because the only good thing he has done is draft, Markus Golden, and getting Zeitler
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 20, 2019 15:16:24 GMT -5
bullshit, been watching since the early 70s good to see the mod is in total denial right now can give it but not take it
Jones earned an F today, plain and simple and no excuses
Then you need to refresh your recollection and go back and look at Eli’s stats for his first 5 games You’re correct. Eli was atrocious as a rookie. He wasn’t much better his 2nd or 3rd year.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Oct 20, 2019 15:16:40 GMT -5
DD is no difference than other rooks but he is very bad in some parts of his game: ball protection, awareness of your opponent, to name 2. However, I wonder what the coaches are schooling him about or are they just telling him BS!!!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 20, 2019 15:17:03 GMT -5
DJ has been steadily getting worse every single game.
And where are the "The last 2 games he played against a great defense" posters now?
Cards are a bad defense.
Jones is taking too long to pull the trigger and make a decision. Thats not something that you can always learn without making more errors.
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Post by nycisgreat on Oct 20, 2019 15:17:07 GMT -5
I think Shurmur's gaming planning, and team capabilities doesn't line up and he doesn't make the necessary adjustments to offset that facts. A real HC could.
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Post by lexington11 on Oct 20, 2019 15:17:11 GMT -5
Ample film evidence today...not disputable. He needs to do far better than looking like he has the last 3 games. Bad even for any rookie.
ample evidence that the oline did him no favors. little to no running game as well. very disputable, he's a rookie.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 20, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -5
bullshit, been watching since the early 70s good to see the mod is in total denial right now can give it but not take it
Jones earned an F today, plain and simple and no excuses
Then you need to refresh your recollection and go back and look at Eli’s stats for his first 5 games Stats?! LOL There is more to this game than stats, but you wouldnt know that....
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Post by Easy E on Oct 20, 2019 15:18:38 GMT -5
Nothing to do with the Oline? He was sacked 8 times and hit 15 plus times 8 sacks, but you can’t hold the football that long in the NFL. Yeah, and ignorant fans will blame the offensive line. It's been a combo of both, but let's be clear DJ is not helping himself or the line by holding it so long. DJ hasn't ever shown pocket awareness or an internal clock since the TB game. He was making quick reads in his 1st couple of games and now seems to have regressed. He is not trusting his reads and it is causing hesitation...and it is not due to lack of time in pocket. Very disturbing trend lately with him.
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Post by nycisgreat on Oct 20, 2019 15:18:45 GMT -5
DJ has been steadily getting worse every single game. And where are the "The last 2 games he played against a great defense" posters now? Cards are a bad defense. Jones is taking too long to pull the trigger and make a decision. Thats not something that you can always learn without making more errors. Rookie QB, honestly I am not sure what kind of support this coach offers this guy.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 20, 2019 15:19:14 GMT -5
Ample film evidence today...not disputable. He needs to do far better than looking like he has the last 3 games. Bad even for any rookie.
ample evidence that the oline did him no favors. little to no running game as well. very disputable, he's a rookie. So is Murray, who has a terrible defense and bad OLine as well. Oh and no WRs ourside of a 35 year old, and no #2 overall Godly RB to help.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Oct 20, 2019 15:19:45 GMT -5
On the 2nd to last drive, Saquon was not aware on TWO occasions allowing for both sacks. I don't know if he deserves out right blame, but he was in the area both times and failed to recognize the threat and make a play.
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