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Post by TCHOF on Nov 13, 2019 11:20:35 GMT -5
Matt Rhule will be the coach of the New York Football Giants in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 11:22:12 GMT -5
lol. Sorry, but I don't agree.
2021 maybe.....but Shurmur will get at least 2 seasons with Jones. Good or bad.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 11:25:55 GMT -5
Matt Rhule will be the coach of the New York Football Giants in 2020.
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Post by Delicreep on Nov 13, 2019 11:32:37 GMT -5
lol. Sorry, but I don't agree. 2021 maybe.....but Shurmur will get at least 2 seasons with Jones. Good or bad. I don't think so. If I were Mara, it would be about doing what is best for Jones, and I don't think that is Shurmur. Solid idea, but it's not working |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 11:35:47 GMT -5
lol. Sorry, but I don't agree. 2021 maybe.....but Shurmur will get at least 2 seasons with Jones. Good or bad. I don't think so. If I were Mara, it would be about doing what is best for Jones, and I don't think that is Shurmur. Solid idea, but it's not working Then it had better be Jay Gruden then becsuse he runs the same system which means continuity,which is the best thing for a young qb And he really wanted the Skins to get Jones |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 11:37:59 GMT -5
lol. Sorry, but I don't agree. 2021 maybe.....but Shurmur will get at least 2 seasons with Jones. Good or bad. I don't think so. If I were Mara, it would be about doing what is best for Jones, and I don't think that is Shurmur. Solid idea, but it's not working If we implode this year and end up 3-13 or 4-12.....I think even John Mara would seriously consider a new HC.
Why do we think Pat Shurmer is a QB guru anyway? Because he instructed Case Keenum to play it safe in 2017?
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 11:38:29 GMT -5
I don't think so. If I were Mara, it would be about doing what is best for Jones, and I don't think that is Shurmur. Solid idea, but it's not working Then it had better be Jay Gruden then becsuse he runs the same system which means continuity,which is the best thing for a young qb And he really wanted the Skins to get Jones **** continuity. Go get the best coach. |
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Post by hadenough on Nov 13, 2019 11:47:56 GMT -5
It's possible. Mara knows him. He's put together some good college football teams. Wasn't his name floating around for the Jets?
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Post by Delicreep on Nov 13, 2019 11:48:00 GMT -5
I don't think so. If I were Mara, it would be about doing what is best for Jones, and I don't think that is Shurmur. Solid idea, but it's not working If we implode this year and end up 3-13 or 4-12.....I think even John Mara would seriously consider a new HC.
Why do we think Pat Shurmer is a QB guru anyway? Because he instructed Case Keenum to play it safe in 2017?
I have no idea. I'm just saying that I am not sure how Mara looks at the team, the offense and the play calling and thinks the DJ investment is being taken care of properly. |
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Post by southerner on Nov 13, 2019 11:50:50 GMT -5
lol. Sorry, but I don't agree. 2021 maybe.....but Shurmur will get at least 2 seasons with Jones. Good or bad. No, Shurmur is gone. It is all Mara can do to not fire him today. The only real question is whether Gettleman is gone too. That could go either way, especially depending on who the new head coach is. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 13, 2019 11:50:52 GMT -5
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 13, 2019 11:58:57 GMT -5
Risky hire. Coming off two bad hires in McAdoo and Shurmur and hiring a coach who's only NFL experience is offensive line assistant coach with us in 2012.
It's not if but when Shurmur will be fired, I think Mara goes with a coach with experience. And I'm not talking about Pat Shurmur experience, I'm talking about a coach who has shown he can win in this league.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 12:00:11 GMT -5
Then it had better be Jay Gruden then becsuse he runs the same system which means continuity,which is the best thing for a young qb And he really wanted the Skins to get Jones **** continuity. Go get the best coach. **** continuity = hello qb carousel and franchise hell |
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Post by hadenough on Nov 13, 2019 12:02:30 GMT -5
Geez...that person was spot on. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 12:09:18 GMT -5
Risky hire. Coming off two bad hires in McAdoo and Shurmur and hiring a coach who's only NFL experience is offensive line assistant coach with us in 2012. It's not if but when Shurmur will be fired, I think Mara goes with a coach with experience. And I'm not talking about Pat Shurmur experience, I'm talking about a coach who has shown he can win in this league. This is frightening because John Fox is still out there Nothing like an ancient style coach that has no history of any young qb being developed into anything more than a game manager |
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Post by Roosevelt on Nov 13, 2019 12:11:09 GMT -5
Then it had better be Jay Gruden then becsuse he runs the same system which means continuity,which is the best thing for a young qb And he really wanted the Skins to get Jones **** continuity. Go get the best coach. I concur.
Jones is only one year into this system so making a change at this stage would be fine.
Mara IMO must think long and hard about this coach. Is this guy the right head coach for this franchise. Can he lead us where we need to go? Or are we just going to waste another couple years and then move on?
It seems like this coach makes fundamental mistakes in every game now. I've given him the benefit of the doubt since day one, but I can no longer support what I am seeing.
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Post by Bigjeep on Nov 13, 2019 12:14:24 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, having players that could possibly play football might help! You can hire any coach you want, he is going to need players to win not the garbage we have now! Personally I would get rid of the GM first. He has made some decent draft picks ( Jones ) for one, but some of his signings and trades has been just horrible!  |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 12:21:53 GMT -5
**** continuity. Go get the best coach. **** continuity = hello qb carousel and franchise hell So keep inept people in place for the sake of continuity.
That is an all too familiar theme for our FO recently. Look where it got us.
I get your point. I too hate constant change. But they hired the wrong guy and you have to cut your losses. The reason the Steelers keep their coaches through thick and thin is because they hire the RIGHT guys. We haven't the last two hires.
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Post by jimmieray on Nov 13, 2019 12:23:01 GMT -5
lol. Sorry, but I don't agree. 2021 maybe.....but Shurmur will get at least 2 seasons with Jones. Good or bad. Remember, you originally predicted Jones would be picked by the Giants in the draft. He might not have started, until the next season. The Giants could have this Rhule in mind already, but let Shurmur have one more season to convince them. Just like the Eli situation. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Nov 13, 2019 12:25:41 GMT -5
Matt Rhule will be the coach of the New York Football Giants in 2020.
Mark it down! I'm not so sure I'd want to pin my legacy to Fbomb's. He may have set our franchise back years! |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 12:27:43 GMT -5
Matt Rhule will be the coach of the New York Football Giants in 2020.
Mark it down! I'm not so sure I'd want to pin my legacy to Fbomb's. He may have set our franchise back years! ****ing FBomb! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 12:28:03 GMT -5
Well......we will see who's right.
I'm not basing my prediction on how I "feel" about things or how "I" would do things. This is based solely on what I've learned over the years about how the Giants go about doing things. Nothing more. It was the same strategy I used to claim that Jones was going to be our QB.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 13, 2019 12:34:15 GMT -5
Risky hire. Coming off two bad hires in McAdoo and Shurmur and hiring a coach who's only NFL experience is offensive line assistant coach with us in 2012. It's not if but when Shurmur will be fired, I think Mara goes with a coach with experience. And I'm not talking about Pat Shurmur experience, I'm talking about a coach who has shown he can win in this league. This is frightening because John Fox is still out there Nothing like an ancient style coach that has no history of any young qb being developed into anything more than a game manager It's difficult to gauge what Mara will do. But if I'm an owner I'm skeptical about hiring a new head coach with 0 NFL coaching experience. Now it has been proven to work see Frank Reich and Doug Pederson. Whatever the outcome is I'm sure it will be met with cheers and jeers. |
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 13, 2019 12:37:32 GMT -5
Matt Rhule will be the coach of the New York Football Giants in 2020.
Mark it down! Could you tell us who he is first? Seems like a fair question....
44 years old. Grew up in NYC Walk-on LB at Penn State under Paterno Asst OL coach under TC (when the OL was good and when Gettleman was here) - so there is a Giants connection (which we know the Giants love) HC at Temple - took a crappy program and led them to two straight 10 win seasons (first time ever in school history) HC at Baylor - has turned around a program that was even more of a mess than the Giants (hard to believe). Team is currently undefeated.
It seems like most NFL teams miss on HC's by taking a non-HC and hoping that he can be a HC. As it turns out, a lot of these guys are just not the CEO types that you need to run an entire organization (see, Pat Shurmur). Rhule is the CEO type and has actually turned around two down-trodden teams (albeit on the college level).
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 13, 2019 12:39:47 GMT -5
**** continuity. Go get the best coach. **** continuity = hello qb carousel and franchise hell If we hire the right coach, who is going to care that Shurmur was the second coach we fired in 3 years?
Shurmur is not the guy. keeping him on is just prolonging the inevitable just for the sake of "continuity". Will "continuity" be served if we fire him after 2020?
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 13, 2019 12:43:44 GMT -5
Well......we will see who's right. I'm not basing my prediction on how I "feel" about things or how "I" would do things. This is based solely on what I've learned over the years about how the Giants go about doing things. Nothing more. It was the same strategy I used to claim that Jones was going to be our QB. I am trying to sway you, because I know that if you don't predict it, it won't happen! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 12:43:49 GMT -5
Then it had better be Jay Gruden then becsuse he runs the same system which means continuity,which is the best thing for a young qb And he really wanted the Skins to get Jones **** continuity. Go get the best coach. That's all well and good. Fan's can scream whatever they want, but just ask yourselves "What do the Giants brass favor when it comes to replacing coaches?" It's the same reason they drafted Eli 2.0. Continuity. |
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Post by lasion2 on Nov 13, 2019 12:45:00 GMT -5
45-40
Admittedly haven’t watched any recent Baylor games. I think it moot till 2021. But I’ll keep an eye out.
Saw some temple games here in philly. With one or two pro level athletes on defense, in that conference, it didn’t seem to take much coaching to be dominant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 12:46:31 GMT -5
Well......we will see who's right. I'm not basing my prediction on how I "feel" about things or how "I" would do things. This is based solely on what I've learned over the years about how the Giants go about doing things. Nothing more. It was the same strategy I used to claim that Jones was going to be our QB. I am trying to sway you, because I know that if you don't predict it, it won't happen! lol....I'll tell you what. I will stay my prediction until the end of the season. But, unless there is some major lockerroom mutiny. Shurmur will get one more year. |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 12:47:57 GMT -5
**** continuity. Go get the best coach. That's all well and good. Fan's can scream whatever they want, but just ask yourselves "What do the Giants brass favor when it comes to replacing coaches?" It's the same reason they drafted Eli 2.0. Continuity. You are talking about what will happen. I'm talking about what should happen.
John Mara is completely inept. That can't be denied. He has put us here. The buck stops with him.
So do I think Shurmur will get fired? I really don't know. As I said, if we end up 3-13 or 4-12 this year he would have a tough time keeping him. If we win a few more games and end up 6-10....or even 5-11? I think he'll favor the devil he knows. I do because I have become convinced that John Mara is a fool when it comes to football. Something I never believed until a few years ago.
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