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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 9:56:36 GMT -5
Generally Albright does not BS and he is keyed in with Broncos.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 14, 2019 9:59:52 GMT -5
Yup.
Denevr wanted to jump the Jets for Darnold bad. This was the best option for the team.
If this is 100% accurate there is no doubt in my mind DG screwed us up big time and pushed back our rebuild years. And the fact he turned it down for a RB is mind boggling. No matter how great that RB could be.
I'll continue to say DG is not a good GM. He tries to outsmaht everyone in the room by being cockey about things. Much like his DJ pick.
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Post by GameTime on Nov 14, 2019 10:03:28 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG.
Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway.
Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a second
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 14, 2019 10:05:24 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG. Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway. Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a secondPretty much |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 10:06:12 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG. Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway. Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a second I am pretty sure it’s accurate based on the reporter. And it wouldn’t surprise me. Gettleman wasn’t picking up the phone. |
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Post by GameTime on Nov 14, 2019 10:07:26 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG. Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway. Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a second I am pretty sure it’s accurate based on the reporter. And it wouldn’t surprise me. Gettleman wasn’t picking up the phone. So if DG didnt pick up the phone then he never knew what Denver would be offering? So DG didnt know about it? Or he did know about it and ignored it? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 14, 2019 10:09:06 GMT -5
I am pretty sure it’s accurate based on the reporter. And it wouldn’t surprise me. Gettleman wasn’t picking up the phone. So if DG didnt pick up the phone then he never knew what Denver would be offering? So DG didnt know about it? Or he did know about it and ignored it? This sounds like a cass of someone leaking revisionist history because their qb situation is still shit after trying to find Manning's replacement since 2016 |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 14, 2019 10:09:30 GMT -5
Dave was in love. And love is blind.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 14, 2019 10:16:09 GMT -5
So we would of had Denvers 5th pick correct? Barkley would have been picked by the Browns at 4 and we could of had Chubb or Nelson at 5.
And would of had two 1st round picks in 2019 and two 2nd round picks as well.
As great as Barkley is you make that trade. This is the offer Gettleman alluded too after the draft. He was on WFAN and stated "we did have one very reasonable offer." So in hindsight once the Giants were on the clock he didn't check back with any teams to see if Darnolds presence on the board would have increased the trade value.
This is what happens when you're dead set on a player. Gettleman was so in love with Barkley teams could of offered the moon and stars and he wasn't budging. I get that if you have a franchise QB available, a great edge rusher, or even a stout left tackle. But an all world running back? This was beyond dumb..
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 14, 2019 10:22:31 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG. Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway. Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a second If we wait another year, it will have been 3 number 1s and 4 second rounders. Where’s the bar set on things like the word fact? Are we using the actual definition or the internet definition? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 14, 2019 10:24:23 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG. Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway. Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a second I am pretty sure it’s accurate based on the reporter. And it wouldn’t surprise me. Gettleman wasn’t picking up the phone. The reporter said it was a fact. That should be incredibly really easy to prove. Unless by fact he meant something else entirely. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 10:39:12 GMT -5
lol......love this board.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 14, 2019 10:39:53 GMT -5
if thats true than that question shoudl be asked of DG. Of course he wont admit it but ask anyway. Sounds way too good to be true and you would think any GM would take that offer in a second Not when you can get the kid touched by the hand of God. It wouldn't shock me if its true. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 14, 2019 10:41:37 GMT -5
So if DG didnt pick up the phone then he never knew what Denver would be offering? So DG didnt know about it? Or he did know about it and ignored it? This sounds like a cass of someone leaking revisionist history because their qb situation is still shit after trying to find Manning's replacement since 2016 Funny how many here including myself were saying they should trade back with Denver real time though. I figured Elway wanted Darnold very bad. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 14, 2019 10:42:51 GMT -5
This sounds like a cass of someone leaking revisionist history because their qb situation is still shit after trying to find Manning's replacement since 2016 Funny how many here including myself were saying they should trade back with Denver real time though. I figured Elway wanted Darnold very bad. Right. 6 #1s and 14 #2s worth. It’s a little known fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 10:48:27 GMT -5
It’s unfortunate. I am supportive of Barkley as a #2 worthy pick.
But given availability of Nelson that offer would have turned out well.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 14, 2019 10:49:00 GMT -5
Funny how many here including myself were saying they should trade back with Denver real time though. I figured Elway wanted Darnold very bad. Right. 6 #1s and 14 #2s worth. It’s a little known fact. Is this your way to deflect the ignorance of DGs choices? By being over the top and exaggerating? The moment Mayfield was drafted I was thinking we were going to trade back with Denver with the prized possession of Darnold still there and the Giants obviously still stuck on Eli. Figured they could get Denvers 1st and 2nd in 2018 and Denvers 1st and like a 3rd in 2019. Why would we try to have an easy rebuild with multiple high draft picks over the next few years when we could put all our chips in on a RB on a shit team with no OL? Oh well. I like 10 year rebuilds. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 10:58:33 GMT -5
Right. 6 #1s and 14 #2s worth. It’s a little known fact. The moment Mayfield was drafted I was thinking we were going to trade back with Denver with the prized possession of Darnold still there and the Giants obviously still stuck on Eli. Figured they could get Denvers 1st and 2nd in 2018 and Denvers 1st and like a 3rd in 2019. Why would we try to have an easy rebuild with multiple high draft picks over the next few years when we could put all our chips in on a RB on a shit team with no OL? Oh well. I like 10 year rebuilds.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 14, 2019 11:31:34 GMT -5
Is this your way to deflect the ignorance of DGs choices? By being over the top and exaggerating? The moment Mayfield was drafted I was thinking we were going to trade back with Denver with the prized possession of Darnold still there and the Giants obviously still stuck on Eli. Figured they could get Denvers 1st and 2nd in 2018 and Denvers 1st and like a 3rd in 2019. Why would we try to have an easy rebuild with multiple high draft picks over the next few years when we could put all our chips in on a RB on a shit team with no OL? Oh well. I like 10 year rebuilds.
I had to play along no? And for what it's worth, we dont know if this is an exaggeration or not. |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 14, 2019 11:42:46 GMT -5
Let's face it folks......when you have a chance to draft a players who was touched by the hand of God.....trading that pick is pure blasphemy.
It would have been raining toads on Met Life for 40 years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 11:46:16 GMT -5
lol......everyone that has responded in this thread have flamed the media and "rumors" on several occasions. except when it fits their narrative. This one being that DG is a piece of shit GM.
I don't read or listen to any media unless it's good for a laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 11:47:30 GMT -5
I had to play along no? And for what it's worth, we dont know if this is an exaggeration or not. And yet, it's already being considered gospel because it gives the DG haters another reason to hate. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 14, 2019 11:49:12 GMT -5
lol......everyone that has responded in this thread have flamed the media and "rumors" on several occasions. except when it fits their narrative. This one being that DG is a piece of shit GM. I don't read or listen to any media unless it's good for a laugh. Everyone on this forum has done so. Including you. |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 14, 2019 11:54:06 GMT -5
I had to play along no? And for what it's worth, we dont know if this is an exaggeration or not. And yet, it's already being considered gospel because it gives the DG haters another reason to hate. Are you becoming the new "420" of this board?
"DG haters?"
Et tu Fbomb?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 11:54:53 GMT -5
lol......everyone that has responded in this thread have flamed the media and "rumors" on several occasions. except when it fits their narrative. This one being that DG is a piece of shit GM. I don't read or listen to any media unless it's good for a laugh. Everyone on this forum has done so. Including you. I disagree. If you are talking about the DJ articles and videos I posted, it was all tongue and cheek for my "Nostradamus" status. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 11:58:26 GMT -5
And yet, it's already being considered gospel because it gives the DG haters another reason to hate. Are you becoming the new "420" of this board?
"DG haters?"
Et tu Fbomb?
Nope. I think some people, ver much you, hate on DG for personal reasons (ie...he's a liar, he's pompous, he treats the media badly). Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he has drafted very well imo and getting rid of overpaid players from the old regime is great imo. How everything pans out remains to be seen, but you guys have already decided that he's a POS. |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 14, 2019 12:03:32 GMT -5
Are you becoming the new "420" of this board?
"DG haters?"
Et tu Fbomb?
Nope. I think some people, ver much you, hate on DG for personal reasons (ie...he's a liar, he's pompous, he treats the media badly). Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he has drafted very well imo and getting rid of overpaid players from the old regime is great imo. How everything pans out remains to be seen, but you guys have already decided that he's a POS. Well I'm very down on Dave. I think he was a terrible hire given today's NFL. I like the kid...so there's that. But Dave only gets away with his condescending style if he wins. So far I've seen very little from him. I'm fine with developing the kid. I get that. But we need to see improvement from the rest of the team. The "fixed" O line is as bad or worse than the old O line. Our defense is as bad or worse. Our WR's are far worse. And our "RB touched by the hand of God" had 1 yard in 13 carries.
So maybe the "DG haters" just don't like the way he's handled the football team.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 14, 2019 12:04:52 GMT -5
Are you becoming the new "420" of this board?
"DG haters?"
Et tu Fbomb?
Nope. I think some people, ver much you, hate on DG for personal reasons (ie...he's a liar, he's pompous, he treats the media badly). Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he has drafted very well imo and getting rid of overpaid players from the old regime is great imo. How everything pans out remains to be seen, but you guys have already decided that he's a POS. You act like that's a bad thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 12:11:43 GMT -5
Nope. I think some people, ver much you, hate on DG for personal reasons (ie...he's a liar, he's pompous, he treats the media badly). Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he has drafted very well imo and getting rid of overpaid players from the old regime is great imo. How everything pans out remains to be seen, but you guys have already decided that he's a POS. Well I'm very down on Dave. I think he was a terrible hire given today's NFL. I like the kid...so there's that. But Dave only gets away with his condescending style if he wins. So far I've seen very little from him. I'm fine with developing the kid. I get that. But we need to see improvement from the rest of the team. The "fixed" O line is as bad or worse than the old O line. Our defense is as bad or worse. Our WR's are far worse. And our "RB touched by the hand of God" had 1 yard in 13 carries.
So maybe the "DG haters" just don't like the way he's handled the football team.
I think your opinion on his moves is completely premature. I know it's been said 1000 times, but rebuilds take time. I don't believe he is through working on the line and the defense. Not every player is going to pan out. There is only so much you can change in one off season. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 12:12:10 GMT -5
Nope. I think some people, ver much you, hate on DG for personal reasons (ie...he's a liar, he's pompous, he treats the media badly). Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he has drafted very well imo and getting rid of overpaid players from the old regime is great imo. How everything pans out remains to be seen, but you guys have already decided that he's a POS. You act like that's a bad thing. Not bad......just very premature. |
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