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Post by keyofgmen on Nov 30, 2019 7:43:33 GMT -5
Could Josh Allen wind up being the best pick of 2018? I think he is turning into a real leader. Impressed on Thanksgiving.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 30, 2019 7:56:38 GMT -5
Another hot take.
Of course he "could be" but it takes time. I mean, he actually has less TDs and more INTs this year than our rookie QB.
I think he is playing well enough to win but the Bill's aren't winning because of him.
If we are going strictly off of what QBs are doing this year how can it not be Lamar from 2018 who is the best pick?
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Post by keyofgmen on Nov 30, 2019 8:26:05 GMT -5
Another hot take. Of course he "could be" but it takes time. I mean, he actually has less TDs and more INTs this year than our rookie QB. I think he is playing well enough to win but the Bill's aren't winning because of him. If we are going strictly off of what QBs are doing this year how can it not be Lamar from 2018 who is the best pick? Ya, hard to argue against L Jackson at this point.
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 30, 2019 10:13:52 GMT -5
Another hot take. Of course he "could be" but it takes time. I mean, he actually has less TDs and more INTs this year than our rookie QB. I think he is playing well enough to win but the Bill's aren't winning because of him. If we are going strictly off of what QBs are doing this year how can it not be Lamar from 2018 who is the best pick? Ya, hard to argue against L Jackson at this point. Sammy D and Baker have been playing better as of late too.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 30, 2019 11:33:19 GMT -5
The way he looked vs Dallas he had the look of a qb that the light was indeed on and the game had indeed slowed down for him to a point he could just play and let his ability take over instinctively. Many of the good franchise QBs it often happens in year 2 sometime,with Eli I remember it happening week 3 in San Diego on that Sunday night game where he started to out up a string of good games and big numbers. In some rare cases it happens in year one
But I think Allen plays his best ball from here on out and makes that team a very dangerous team come playoff time
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Post by giantsalmon on Nov 30, 2019 11:39:28 GMT -5
Could Josh Allen wind up being the best pick of 2018? I think he is turning into a real leader. Impressed on Thanksgiving. I was very high on Allen coming out of Wyoming, just like Mayfield he knocked down every obstacle he faced to end up in the NFL. I knew NYG would not take Mayfield( we will never know) only because his brash personality is not their "type". Allen on the other hand is the aw shucks, never throw team mates or coaches under the bus type. They spent time with him but yes, he was not the polished type that they already had an eye on with DJ. The best summary I've seen/heard was from Bill Cowher. He said Josh Allen was a great fit for Coach McDermott and the city of Buffalo. I think he is right, and I am now perfectly happy with Daniel Jones as the Giants chosen one. I will freely admit I did not see Lamar Jackson's success coming--especially this fast. We must take our hats off to Coach Harbaugh and the Ravens because many "experts" and many Ravens fans were calling for Flacco to be reinserted late last season. Now, Jackson already has the experience of ramped up preparation and expectation of post season play. Stepping stones are very important.
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Post by Dogecoin on Nov 30, 2019 11:44:39 GMT -5
we knew he could run and had a strong arm out of college, but on thanksgiving he was showing advanced reading of the defense and precision passing which were supposed to be his weaknesses. doubtful this will be "bills year" but at least they found "their guy." its a leap to put jones on the same trajectory, he may not have the same athletic ability and definitely not same quality of coaching
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Post by DandyDon on Nov 30, 2019 13:14:05 GMT -5
I'm on record as wanting him and predicting he would become a good NFL QB. That said, he is a lot like DJ in a lot of ways - I think JA has a stronger arm and DJ has better wheels.
But he is certainly playing for a better team than DJ is.
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Post by giantsalmon on Nov 30, 2019 16:23:54 GMT -5
I'm on record as wanting him and predicting he would become a good NFL QB. That said, he is a lot like DJ in a lot of ways - I think JA has a stronger arm and DJ has better wheels. But he is certainly playing for a better team than DJ is. Last year Allen won a few games running for his life. This year his threat to run is a luxury the D must account for, and his coordinator has schemed deadly runs in the red zone. I think DJs mobility could be utilized differently without jeopardizing him and really help open up the offense. Both of them are sneaky fast for their size. I have yet to see a real deficiency in DJs arm strength and he definitely has touch. Allen was said to lack accuracy and touch but he has definitely improved in those areas. If DJ makes as big a jump in year 2 as Allen has we will all be smiling and if coupled with a better D perhaps we too can see meaningful games in December.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 2, 2019 18:26:52 GMT -5
Allen 9-3, Jackson 10-2. Our GM instead delayed QB by a year to pay Eli $45-50 million the last 2 years.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 2, 2019 18:54:03 GMT -5
Allen 9-3, Jackson 10-2. Our GM instead delayed QB by a year to pay Eli $45-50 million the last 2 years. As if they were connected.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 2, 2019 19:01:23 GMT -5
Allen 9-3, Jackson 10-2. Our GM instead delayed QB by a year to pay Eli $45-50 million the last 2 years. As if they were connected. Which part? The decision not to draft a QB in 17 and move on from Eli at that point would have changed our timeline. I’m not sure What our plan has been. It’s been equal parts win now with equal parts build for later, it’s results speak for themselves.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 2, 2019 19:24:27 GMT -5
As if they were connected. Which part? The decision not to draft a QB in 17 and move on from Eli at that point would have changed our timeline. I’m not sure What our plan has been. It’s been equal parts win now with equal parts build for later, it’s results speak for themselves. And if the timeline changed what would be different? Are you selling the idea that this team would be good today?
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 2, 2019 19:45:39 GMT -5
Which part? The decision not to draft a QB in 17 and move on from Eli at that point would have changed our timeline. I’m not sure What our plan has been. It’s been equal parts win now with equal parts build for later, it’s results speak for themselves. And if the timeline changed what would be different? Are you selling the idea that this team would be good today? I’m selling if the logic was different upfront we’d be well ahead of where we are. No Eli, no Solder, no Williams, no Barkley.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 2, 2019 22:10:28 GMT -5
And if the timeline changed what would be different? Are you selling the idea that this team would be good today? I’m selling if the logic was different upfront we’d be well ahead of where we are. No Eli, no Solder, no Williams, no Barkley. That's certainly one story although neither of us has any idea if it's even remotely true.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 2, 2019 22:18:44 GMT -5
I’m selling if the logic was different upfront we’d be well ahead of where we are. No Eli, no Solder, no Williams, no Barkley. That's certainly one story although neither of us has any idea if it's even remotely true. What we do know is the decisions made as a whole have failed. The team isn’t better.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 2, 2019 22:20:23 GMT -5
That's certainly one story although neither of us has any idea if it's even remotely true. What we do know is the decisions made as a whole have failed. The team isn’t better. Agreed. Although that's a long, long way from being well ahead of where we are.
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