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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 10:24:00 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head.
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 3, 2019 10:25:06 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. Even John Mara isn't that dumb.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2019 10:26:02 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. Even John Mara isn't that dumb. Not so sure about that ....
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2019 10:27:13 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. If the Giants don't break out of the mode they're in, I would expect Ron Rivera to be hired if he is let go by Carolina.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 10:29:35 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. If the Giants don't break out of the mode they're in, I would expect Ron Rivera to be hired if he is let go by Carolina. That is also a name to look out for if Gettleman is still around
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 3, 2019 10:30:44 GMT -5
Even John Mara isn't that dumb. Not so sure about that ....
John Fox (3 times fired) would be a nightmare scenario.
I think Billy Ray is nuts on this one.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2019 10:54:28 GMT -5
Not so sure about that ....
John Fox (3 times fired) would be a nightmare scenario.
I think Billy Ray is nuts on this one.
I agree Fox would be horrendous.
Don't agree with your statement that Mara is not that dumb ....
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 3, 2019 11:14:37 GMT -5
John Fox (3 times fired) would be a nightmare scenario.
I think Billy Ray is nuts on this one.
I agree Fox would be horrendous.
Don't agree with your statement that Mara is not that dumb ....
It could go either way.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2019 11:19:50 GMT -5
I agree Fox would be horrendous.
Don't agree with your statement that Mara is not that dumb ....
It could go either way. Do you think he's smart enough to bring back TC?
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2019 11:40:52 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. One of the w worst scenarios we could do Hello dinosaur prehistoric offense and team concepts,will set the team back 10 years I will find other things to do on Sundays if this happens It's bad enough to suck It's even worse to suck playing a style of football that was outdated 20 years ago
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2019 11:48:51 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. If the Giants don't break out of the mode they're in, I would expect Ron Rivera to be hired if he is let go by Carolina. .he wouldn't be bad Has experience with both 4/3 and 3/4(San Diego after Phillips was hired by Dallas)and had really good units there with this system so no worries on having to blow up the front 7 If he brings Turner this could be good for Barkley with how he has schemed McCaffrey (and use of 2 back sets in a modern way),bigtime use of TEs in the passing game,figured out how to make Moore overachieve and also seems tk have added a lot of modern elements to his system (while Zampezee2/Coryell school of passing attack,he morphed the system into the modern WCO/air raid style ..interested he was on staff with Shurmer in 2016 and 2017 so I wouldn't be surprised if he took those concepts with him,so it shouldn't be much of a syeten shift for Jones to handicap his learning curve )
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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 11:52:25 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. One of the w worst scenarios we could do Hello dinosaur prehistoric offense and team concepts,will set the team back 10 years I will find other things to do on Sundays if this happens It's bad enough to suck It's even worse to suck playing a style of football that was outdated 20 years ago I totally fear that they will hire John Fox or maybe even Ron Rivera. I simply do not trust Mara nor do I feel that he is willing to take a big swing. The Shurmur and Gettleman hires were weak. I can see that trend continuing.....
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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 11:53:44 GMT -5
Do you think he's smart enough to bring back TC? Haha, I don't know man. Considering how coach left Mara hanging at that presser, I doubt that Tom would want to coach for him again.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2019 12:12:04 GMT -5
One of the w worst scenarios we could do Hello dinosaur prehistoric offense and team concepts,will set the team back 10 years I will find other things to do on Sundays if this happens It's bad enough to suck It's even worse to suck playing a style of football that was outdated 20 years ago I totally fear that they will hire John Fox or maybe even Ron Rivera. I simply do not trust Mara nor do I feel that he is willing to take a big swing. The Shurmur and Gettleman hires were weak. I can see that trend continuing..... Rivera actually isnt bad at all to be honest and for the reasons I stated. If for anything else again it would allow us to continue to build the defensive side of the vall without major changes to the front we have invested a lot in. I know there is a fetish that a certain loud minority around here has that thinks everything must be blown up because we are 2-10,but the facts are that most of that side of the ball is under 25 and we have a lot of play playing and the strength of that unit is the 3 man d line. The inconvenient truth to that group is that the idea for a coaching change is to get the team better quickly and to do this you need some sort of continuity somewhere and that is the D line. Rivera assures we stay in the 3/3 and keep building,he gets a DC familiar with that front and we just keep adding pieces there
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Post by nyg2 on Dec 3, 2019 13:43:35 GMT -5
One of the w worst scenarios we could do Hello dinosaur prehistoric offense and team concepts,will set the team back 10 years I will find other things to do on Sundays if this happens It's bad enough to suck It's even worse to suck playing a style of football that was outdated 20 years ago I totally fear that they will hire John Fox or maybe even Ron Rivera. I simply do not trust Mara nor do I feel that he is willing to take a big swing. The Shurmur and Gettleman hires were weak. I can see that trend continuing..... I agree that a John Fox hire would be disastrous, but I wouldn't mind Ron Rivera. What are your concerns about Ron Rivera? More importantly who do you want us to hire?
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 3, 2019 13:46:40 GMT -5
Do you think he's smart enough to bring back TC? Haha, I don't know man. Considering how coach left Mara hanging at that presser, I doubt that Tom would want to coach for him again. Who was it that coined him "Teflon Tom?"
It was either you or me.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2019 13:48:24 GMT -5
Do you think he's smart enough to bring back TC? Haha, I don't know man. Considering how coach left Mara hanging at that presser, I doubt that Tom would want to coach for him again. Just bustin ole Morehead....
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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 14:51:00 GMT -5
Haha, I don't know man. Considering how coach left Mara hanging at that presser, I doubt that Tom would want to coach for him again. Who was it that coined him "Teflon Tom?"
It was either you or me.
It was me. When it comes to Tom, they should have done a full reboot when he was not brought back. John Mara totally botched it and Tom felt scapegoated.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 14:51:26 GMT -5
Haha, I don't know man. Considering how coach left Mara hanging at that presser, I doubt that Tom would want to coach for him again. Just bustin ole Morehead.... It is always fun busting on MH.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 3, 2019 14:54:08 GMT -5
I totally fear that they will hire John Fox or maybe even Ron Rivera. I simply do not trust Mara nor do I feel that he is willing to take a big swing. The Shurmur and Gettleman hires were weak. I can see that trend continuing..... I agree that a John Fox hire would be disastrous, but I wouldn't mind Ron Rivera. What are your concerns about Ron Rivera? More importantly who do you want us to hire? My only issue with Rivera is that he is a retread. I just feel that this franchise needs someone totally out of the box in both the FO and coaching staff. The only coach with Giants ties I am down with is Matt Rhule. David Shaw also would be ok with me.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 3, 2019 19:06:41 GMT -5
I'd rather pry Belichick out of New England.
"Hey Bill, show us it was you all along and not Tom. Come back home and help the QB you liked Daniel Jones become next level. Win another ring here as a HC and ride off into the sunset as the GOAT."
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Post by Waybackfan on Dec 3, 2019 20:18:27 GMT -5
I'd go for Fox if he can be a package deal with Tim Tebow.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2019 20:49:52 GMT -5
I'd go for Fox if he can be a package deal with Tim Tebow. . Maybe in Jacksonville that would fly
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Post by SG88 on Dec 28, 2019 17:34:54 GMT -5
I thought that I would bump this since black Monday is coming up. Remember, it is who you think will be the next HC and not who you want.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 28, 2019 18:23:50 GMT -5
If we get rid of Shurmer My educated guess Rivera
If we keep Shurmer. I guess Shurmer
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Post by djsbnyg on Dec 28, 2019 18:42:54 GMT -5
Ron Rivera
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Post by TEM on Dec 28, 2019 18:56:57 GMT -5
I think it'll be me.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 28, 2019 19:04:12 GMT -5
This isn't about who you WANT to be the next HC. I have a gut feeling that they will hire John Fox. It is a very conservative hire, a retread, and he has history with both Gettleman and the Giants. I have next to no confidence in John or Chris Mara thinking outside of the box when it comes to hiring anyone in the front office or at HC. It sucks, but the name John Fox keeps popping up in my head. Someone on the board for sure and maybe we might have a GM or 2.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 28, 2019 19:05:15 GMT -5
Does that mean you won't be posting anymore to cool for us lol.
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Post by TEM on Dec 28, 2019 19:07:44 GMT -5
Does that mean you won't be posting anymore to cool for us lol. I would be known as the team bus driver whisperer
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