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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 16, 2019 9:56:09 GMT -5
Actually since he got her the run D has gotten down under 4 yards a caries and in most cases under 3 he has the most pressures in the NFL the last 4 games that is benefitting team mates. the Giants are harassing QBs at decent clip and getting sacks some of those come from pressure up the gut. Kruunch lol I know you will shit on this because you hate the trade and might hate the GM more but there are some positives. Wiliams isn't a good player he is a cut above that. Nor is he top 5 material. Sounds great. Now what about Leonard Williams? What do you think is a fair contract offer? $500 million? With $200 dollars guaranteed? I like how you did your homework, you could be making it all up but I like the effort. You’re growing in front of our eyes. Even though you’re a young 79.. Actually looking at things in a neutral way and judging the final outcome helps. In todays market and the Giants helped create this, like the Redskins created anew safety market. He will get my guess 9 to 12 mill per. I think Nine is low. |
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Post by giantsalmon on Dec 16, 2019 10:04:56 GMT -5
If you historically look at the Giants 3rd Round picks in the Reese era they essentially gave up nothing  Wow this list makes me wanna vomit (save Mannigham): 2007 3 Jay Alford 2008 3 Mario Manningham 2009 3 Travis Beckum 2009 3 Ramses Barden 2010 3 Chad Jones 2011 3 Jerrel Jernigan 2012 3 Jayron Hosley 2013 3 Damontre Moore 2014 3 Jay Bromley 2015 3 Owamagbe Odighizuwa 2016 3 Darian Thompson 2017 3 Davis Webb That is certainly an eye opening list. Let us not forget Jay Alford's SB sealing sack of Brady. He may have become another stud pick from that draft if not for a devastating knee injury. I don't know how this Williams deal is going to pan out, but if the young man plays like he is AFTER he gets paid, he will be part of the solution. Tomlinson has made more key plays since Williams came over. |
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Post by Roswell on Dec 16, 2019 11:07:21 GMT -5
Tons of ifs...
If he walks then the trade is a disaster
If they lose out and get Chase Young and a new coaching staff then the trade might work out from the standpoint that Williams, Tomlinson, Lawrence and Young might be to the Giants what Buffalo’s Dline is to the Bills
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 16, 2019 12:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 16, 2019 12:29:58 GMT -5
If we give him $15 million a year I’m going to throw a pie at Gettlemans face. Let some other team give him that money. That would be a contract that would bite us in the ass. When I think of that type of money at that position, I think of guys who do more than stopping the run and generating pressure. I’m thinking of a player who gets sacks and tackles for losses. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 16, 2019 12:38:50 GMT -5
If we give him $15 million a year I’m going to throw a pie at Gettlemans face. Let some other team give him that money. That would be a contract that would bite us in the ass. When I think of that type of money at that position, I think of guys who do more than stopping the run and generating pressure. I’m thinking of a player who gets sacks and tackles for losses. Shhhhhhhhh did you see the list I think Gettlemen is gonna throw a pie back at you. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 16, 2019 12:39:43 GMT -5
I new 9 was low thinking 12 or maybe Graham money would be right . |
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Post by Dogecoin on Dec 16, 2019 12:49:12 GMT -5
I focused some attention on him yesterday. He's quite a beast really. I hope they find a way to keep him. Someone reliable to build on.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 16, 2019 13:11:20 GMT -5
I focused some attention on him yesterday. He's quite a beast really. I hope they find a way to keep him. Someone reliable to build on. Wow someone who is actually paying attention to the play and not the stat line congrats Rinse. Little things are the difference in games and when a guy does all the little things he is helping everyone. I don't know if they will keep him but the price will be 12 plus judging by that list. |
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Post by odellhasfun on Dec 16, 2019 13:24:22 GMT -5
Leonard Williams will sign elsewhere and we will have given away 2 picks
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 16, 2019 13:31:13 GMT -5
Leonard Williams will sign elsewhere and we will have given away 2 picks Of course. Who will we draft and what pick 1234. Who's the next head coach. What will be our teams 2020 record. Sure you have it covered. |
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