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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2019 11:43:36 GMT -5
Everyone that thought it would be foolish to trade him before the deadline.....You now look foolish Did they know they were going to release him today back during the trade deadline? I bet not Trading Jenkins for anything less than a premium pick would've been foolish. We'd probably would've lost every game by 50 points since the deadline.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 13, 2019 11:44:09 GMT -5
Everyone that thought it would be foolish to trade him before the deadline.....You now look foolish Did they know they were going to release him today back during the trade deadline? I bet not If the Giants had plans to retain him in the offseason, then that would be a HUGE problem
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 11:44:30 GMT -5
What ever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"? Im glad Im not growing up in this generation... Everyone is so sensitive and if you arent PC you get ridiculed. The "R" word? lol Everyone knows when they say that they arent talking about special needs kid or something.
Ill give you a more offensive R word.... Redskins.
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Post by DJones19 on Dec 13, 2019 11:45:23 GMT -5
We didn't trade away player we should have and traded for a player we didn't have to.... In a rebuilding year.
This organization seems clueless.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 11:47:06 GMT -5
Did they know they were going to release him today back during the trade deadline? I bet not Trading Jenkins for anything less than a premium pick would've been foolish. We'd probably would've lost every game by 50 points since the deadline. So instead we just lost by 2 scores a game on average, every game... He should have been traded to the highest bidder. Even if it was a 5th rounder.
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 13, 2019 11:47:36 GMT -5
Did they know they were going to release him today back during the trade deadline? I bet not Trading Jenkins for anything less than a premium pick would've been foolish. We'd probably would've lost every game by 50 points since the deadline. Sarcasm I hope. What's the difference if we are 2-11 with a -9 ppg differential or 2-11 with a -12 ppg differential? None. btw - we're currently ranked 28th in scoring defense with Jenkins. It really can't get much worse than that.
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Post by DJones19 on Dec 13, 2019 11:48:39 GMT -5
What ever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"? Im glad Im not growing up in this generation... Everyone is so sensitive and if you arent PC you get ridiculed. The "R" word? lol Everyone knows when they say that they arent talking about special needs kid or something. Ill give you a more offensive R word.... Redskins. I doubt the tweet was the real reason why he was released. The Tweet was likely used to cover up the dysfunction in the locker room.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 11:49:30 GMT -5
What ever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"? Im glad Im not growing up in this generation... Everyone is so sensitive and if you arent PC you get ridiculed. The "R" word? lol Everyone knows when they say that they arent talking about special needs kid or something. Ill give you a more offensive R word.... Redskins. I agree with you but when I heard Jenkins response when reporters questioned him I knew that he had a good chance of getting cut. Sometimes you need to admit that somethings are not the way you like them and adjust to move forward. Jenkins decided not to maybe because he wanted out and we'll see which team doesn't care and bring him in..
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Post by Parademon1 on Dec 13, 2019 11:49:37 GMT -5
Some playoff contending team will snatch him up & many here will be crying when they see him playing in Jan, maybe even Feb. What a butthurt nation of easily "offended" people this nation has become. What ever happened to "sticks & stones"? so you are complaining about fan "crying" before it even happens. sounds like you're already "butthurt" Really? You got that from my comment? It's just a matter of days, probably hrs before a contender snags him up & he'll be playing in Jan. I'm happy for the guy, hope he does get to play in the postseason. He'll be paying alongside other vets & not a bunch of rookies or 1st yr players that still can't comprehend the playbook, some must be "slow".
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 13, 2019 11:51:31 GMT -5
Good call I read incorrectly. My bad. Last time I believe something you post!!I am ashamed. He was scheduled for 14.75. They actually save 11m against the cap. In all fairness they should still fire Gettleman.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2019 11:52:43 GMT -5
Trading Jenkins for anything less than a premium pick would've been foolish. We'd probably would've lost every game by 50 points since the deadline. So instead we just lost by 2 scores a game on average, every game... He should have been traded to the highest bidder. Even if it was a 5th rounder. That's how fans think. If you think coaches and GMs use that same logic when they're trying to win games and save their careers in midseason you're not being serious. Beal was still on IR at the time, we didn't even have enough bodies to field. It didn't make sense then or now. You don't kill your season at the halfway mark for a worthless 5th round pick.
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Post by jmike on Dec 13, 2019 11:53:12 GMT -5
LOL, true. Though if they were willing to cut him now it likely means they had no intention on keeping him in 2020 anyway. Otherwise they probably would have suspended/fined/forced an disingenuous apology. Trading him at the deadline would have been a good move regardless, same with Ogletree; if they aren't part of next year's plans. Exactly. One would hope that Gettleman knows that neither of these guys are going to be here in 2020 so why not try to get anything for them at the deadline? Of course we're talking about the same guy who traded a top 3rd round pick and 5th (potential 4th) for a guy to play 8 games on a 2-11 team. The wisdom of the Williams trade is to be determined. A questionable move, but it is unlikely he would have hit FA with any team that traded for him, so signing him as a FA in the off-season was unlikely an option. If they want him for 2020, they needed to trade for him. If they don't retain him or sign him to a terrible contract it is a bad move though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 11:54:33 GMT -5
So instead we just lost by 2 scores a game on average, every game... He should have been traded to the highest bidder. Even if it was a 5th rounder. That's how fans think. If you think coaches and GMs use that same logic when they're trying to win games and save their careers in midseason you're not being serious. Beal was still on IR at the time, we didn't even have enough bodies to field. It didn't make sense then or now. You don't kill your season at the halfway mark for a worthless 5th round pick.Say that to Connelly and Slayton..
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Post by jmike on Dec 13, 2019 11:54:51 GMT -5
Did they know they were going to release him today back during the trade deadline? I bet not Trading Jenkins for anything less than a premium pick would've been foolish. We'd probably would've lost every game by 50 points since the deadline. We lost every game with him, who cares about the margin?
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 11:55:23 GMT -5
Good thing he was around long enough to lead and teach the young guys the proper way of doing things ... lol
Would love to know what deals, if any, we turned down at the trade deadline to trade him .... Probably not many Gettleman would have taken a 6th or 7th for him if he could
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 11:56:24 GMT -5
Choking down on a 14.75 mil dead cap hit for next year? Moronic. Fire Gettleman now. I really don’t care what he said, awful business decision. SMH. Thats actual cap relief No dead money... Its 14.75 more for us
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 11:56:46 GMT -5
So instead we just lost by 2 scores a game on average, every game... He should have been traded to the highest bidder. Even if it was a 5th rounder. That's how fans think. If you think coaches and GMs use that same logic when they're trying to win games and save their careers in midseason you're not being serious. Beal was still on IR at the time, we didn't even have enough bodies to field. It didn't make sense then or now. You don't kill your season at the halfway mark for a worthless 5th round pick. Well thats the porblem. Our GM and HC arent thinking long term because they might not be part of it. Thats why our smaht GM traded future draft capital for a DT in his walk year. To try to win more games this year to save himself from looking like a fool in 2019 with a team only winning 2-3 games. Our GM is hurting our team by not thinking long term right now. Jenkins Ogletree Bethea Solder... trade em. Get future draft picks. What ever you can get.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 11:57:15 GMT -5
Choking down on a 14.75 mil dead cap hit for next year? Moronic. Fire Gettleman now. I really don’t care what he said, awful business decision. SMH. 3.5 million The dead money I think hits this year
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2019 11:57:50 GMT -5
That's how fans think. If you think coaches and GMs use that same logic when they're trying to win games and save their careers in midseason you're not being serious. Beal was still on IR at the time, we didn't even have enough bodies to field. It didn't make sense then or now. You don't kill your season at the halfway mark for a worthless 5th round pick.Say that to Connelly and Slayton.. I'll give you Slayton.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 11:58:12 GMT -5
More snaps for Beal. Ballantine our of protocol yet? Think he ends up in philly by next week? That’s the first thing I thought...the freakn eagles will get him. Who cares. Let him half ass it there when the team has a bad day
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 13, 2019 11:58:30 GMT -5
Some playoff contending team will snatch him up & many here will be crying when they see him playing in Jan, maybe even Feb. What a butthurt nation of easily "offended" people this nation has become. What ever happened to "sticks & stones"? I've stopped using that word as it too was part of my vernacular as slang. I can understand why it is offensive to some people. I think you would too if you had a child, or loved one, who was mentally disabled. It always comes down to my main life philosophy: Everyone has different value sets. No one's is more valuable than another's. If you believe yours is more valuable than another's then you are the issue. Not them. it really does suck when you are on the receiving end of racially, religiously, or socially motivated slurs, and while some may feel that we have gone way to far, sometimes erring on the side of classiness is better than beating down the already downtrodden, even if the slur is not aimed at them directly in its use.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 11:59:24 GMT -5
More snaps for Beal. Ballantine our of protocol yet? Think he ends up in philly by next week? Exactly The kids get more playing time At least they show high effort while taking lumps
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 13, 2019 11:59:49 GMT -5
That's how fans think. If you think coaches and GMs use that same logic when they're trying to win games and save their careers in midseason you're not being serious. Beal was still on IR at the time, we didn't even have enough bodies to field. It didn't make sense then or now. You don't kill your season at the halfway mark for a worthless 5th round pick.Say that to Connelly and Slayton.. For every Connely and Slayton we have a bunch of Phillip Dillards. And personally, if I’m Jenkins I’m moonwalking out of the facilities once I found out about the release. It’s like doing a 2 year stint and finally going home. Jenkins is not as bad as some perceive him to be. Now, Baker will be lined up against the opposing 1s now. Consider himself lucky it’s Miami, Washington and Philly finishing the season. No legitimate number 1 on those teams.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 12:01:15 GMT -5
Taking a cap hit like the one that was expressed by Navy makes this another dumb choice where a suspension would've been better to do. After what happened with his text and the weak excuse for it without apologizing makes this move an expected one but dam another 14 mil of dead money for next season sucks.. Very little dead money of any All the dead money (like 3 million)gets accelerated to this years cap.. We now have 14.75 more cap space next year(we were cutting him next year anyway so now we have e 75-80 million of space
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 12:01:25 GMT -5
Say that to Connelly and Slayton.. I'll give you Slayton. Fair enough but I've heard over and over from some fans that Connolly is the answer at MLB after his awesome performance for a few games.. I do hope both can improve and be solid players for this team next year..
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 13, 2019 12:01:58 GMT -5
More snaps for Beal. Ballantine our of protocol yet? Think he ends up in philly by next week? Exactly The kids get more playing time At least they show high effort while taking lumps Really? Baker has dogged it twice so far this season. Must of forgot about him right?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 12:02:01 GMT -5
Say that to Connelly and Slayton.. For every Connely and Slayton we have a bunch of Phillip Dillards. And personally, if I’m Jenkins I’m moonwalking out of the facilities once I found out about the release. It’s like doing a 2 year stint and finally going home. Jenkins is not as bad as some perceive him to be. Now, Baker will be lined up against the opposing 1s now. Consider himself lucky it’s Miami, Washington and Philly finishing the season. No legitimate number 1 on those teams. I think Baker will be ok long term. Maybe once he gets a better DC who can teach the scheme well enough for everyone to understand their responsibilities, or use the players to their strengths.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2019 12:03:27 GMT -5
Well, now we know where leonard Williams or Markus Golden signing money comes from. Add 3 million to jenkins annual salary and that pays for Golden or possibly Williams. I wouldn't gibe golden more than 8 million. Williams 10 million Or use Tree's money and use the saving on Jenkins for Byron Jones
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2019 12:03:31 GMT -5
Exactly The kids get more playing time At least they show high effort while taking lumps Really? Baker has dogged it twice so far this season. Must of forgot about him right? I think Baker is going to be one of those "IF we are a good team Ill play 100% all the time, if not, I might take some plays off" type player. And there are a LOT of those types of players on our team.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 12:03:39 GMT -5
Taking a cap hit like the one that was expressed by Navy makes this another dumb choice where a suspension would've been better to do. After what happened with his text and the weak excuse for it without apologizing makes this move an expected one but dam another 14 mil of dead money for next season sucks.. Very little dead money of any All the dead money (like 3 million)gets accelerated to this years cap.. We now have 14.75 more cap space next year(we were cutting him next year anyway so now we have e 75-80 million of space Thanks for clearing that up and shame on me for trusting the Navy guy!
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