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Post by Antwuan on Dec 13, 2019 23:47:21 GMT -5
What did you think of Janoris Jenkins in time with the Giants (2016-2019)?
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Post by titowooten on Dec 14, 2019 7:08:10 GMT -5
great signing in 2016 where he helped us go 11-5 and make the playoffs along with vernon and snacks. since then he's been very inconsistent and seems to give up on plays entirely if the team is bad or he feels like it. still probably the best corner we had on the roster all 4 years he was here, but that's not saying much.
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Post by Waybackfan on Dec 14, 2019 7:27:52 GMT -5
He was a great corner at times.
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Post by jb456 on Dec 14, 2019 7:32:19 GMT -5
It was a good signing since he has been the best corner on the team.
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Post by hadenough on Dec 14, 2019 7:33:42 GMT -5
He was a good player. He just happened on the Giants when they stunk. And sometimes his play showed that. But during the winning season...he was great.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 14, 2019 7:59:19 GMT -5
Of course his MO before we signed him was that of a very talented player that didn't focus fully during games and took plays off. i remember him talking about that when we signed him.
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Post by Waybackfan on Dec 14, 2019 8:00:38 GMT -5
Waiving Jenkins (while perhaps a good money move) is a sign the Captain has given the order to abandon ship. To the lifeboats!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 9:52:00 GMT -5
What did you think of Janoris Jenkins in time with the Giants (2016-2019)? Inconsistent.
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 14, 2019 12:02:10 GMT -5
What did you think of Janoris Jenkins in time with the Giants (2016-2019)? I knew nothing about him prior to him joining the Giants, and he was great in 2016 so I was very high on him. But I saw the signs of him quitting on plays the following season and like most people, I expected him to be traded. I gave him a pass last year due to the murder of his friend by his brother at the home he’s be renting in Fair Lawn. Keeping Janoris as a mentor this year gives us more reason to question Shurmur and Gettleman.
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Post by TEM on Dec 14, 2019 12:34:40 GMT -5
He used effort as a means of convenience.
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Post by fifthavephil on Dec 14, 2019 12:36:08 GMT -5
The release of Jenkins was a DG decision. He felt Jenkins was locker room distraction.
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Post by soflo on Dec 14, 2019 12:43:23 GMT -5
What do I think?
Part of an $80M spending spree that locked us into long term contracts in order to have one strong year on defense and temporarily save Jerry Reese's ass.
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Post by southerner on Dec 14, 2019 13:28:27 GMT -5
What did you think of Janoris Jenkins in time with the Giants (2016-2019)? On the whole he did a pretty good job, as he was stuck on a very bad team.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 14:47:17 GMT -5
He had the one really good year 2016. When we signed him I did some digging and was concerned because what we got after 2016 is what he is and has been an average corner who has some wow plays mixed in with some effortless moments. At 62 mill over 5 I would expect much more same as the rest of that free agent class.
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Post by GameTime on Dec 14, 2019 16:54:46 GMT -5
he was exactly what he was expected to be. Sometimes great and sometimes not and he wasnt a huge fan of tackling either.
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Post by Nullusion on Dec 14, 2019 21:57:45 GMT -5
As much as he was supposed to be the veteran leader in the locker room for some of these young guys in the secondary, I think he was much of the opposite.
Doesn't change the fact that he played lights out during his first year here and has made big plays throughout. Though it seems like this year he really fell off. Missed tackles, penalties, blown coverages, just wasn't playing up to his usual standard.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 22:24:29 GMT -5
The release of Jenkins was a DG decision. He felt Jenkins was locker room distraction. Actually heard the opposite on Giants insider thought is it came from the top. They actually said if it were up to Shurmur he would still be here.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 22:30:26 GMT -5
As much as he was supposed to be the veteran leader in the locker room for some of these young guys in the secondary, I think he was much of the opposite. Doesn't change the fact that he played lights out during his first year here and has made big plays throughout. Though it seems like this year he really fell off. Missed tackles, penalties, blown coverages, just wasn't playing up to his usual standard. He was a mess in 2017 also git suspended for not showing up after the by. and had several quit plays and blown coverages really he had 2016 and that was about it.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 22:31:54 GMT -5
he was exactly what he was expected to be. Sometimes great and sometimes not and he wasnt a huge fan of tackling either. He was average in the end.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 14, 2019 22:41:00 GMT -5
I have no issue with rabbit. I think he was truly happy to be cut, which is why he walked his comments back today.
He wont be unemployed long. IMO, our DC will be unemployed longer.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 14, 2019 22:43:26 GMT -5
At times he was great.....At times he looked uninterested
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Post by fifthavephil on Dec 14, 2019 22:49:06 GMT -5
The release of Jenkins was a DG decision. He felt Jenkins was locker room distraction. Actually heard the opposite on Giants insider thought is it came from the top. They actually said if it were up to Shurmur he would still be here. Doesn’t DG sits upstairs. On the right side of Mara .
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 22:56:44 GMT -5
Actually heard the opposite on Giants insider thought is it came from the top. They actually said if it were up to Shurmur he would still be here. Doesn’t DG sits upstairs. On the right side of Mara . These are decisions on the reputation of the team Mara and Tisch take this seriously. That is what I read. To me what is the difference he was over paid and they got the same saving now as they would after the season. Jenkens was setting a bad example for the young guys in the secondary. I think DG wasn't fighting for him why would he JJ just slurred disabled people arguing with a fan on twitter.
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Post by fifthavephil on Dec 14, 2019 23:08:26 GMT -5
Doesn’t DG sits upstairs. On the right side of Mara . These are decisions on the reputation of the team Mara and Tisch take this seriously. That is what I read. To me what is the difference he was over paid and they got the same saving now as they would after the season. Jenkens was setting a bad example for the young guys in the secondary. I think DG wasn't fighting for him why would he JJ just slurred disabled people arguing with a fan on twitter. I believe that is what I posted initially, only more condense. Jenkins was not going to be on the team next year. He was on the injured list for tomorrow.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 23:12:52 GMT -5
These are decisions on the reputation of the team Mara and Tisch take this seriously. That is what I read. To me what is the difference he was over paid and they got the same saving now as they would after the season. Jenkens was setting a bad example for the young guys in the secondary. I think DG wasn't fighting for him why would he JJ just slurred disabled people arguing with a fan on twitter. I believe that is what I posted initially, only more condense. Jenkins was not going to be on the team next year. He was on the injured list for tomorrow. Really with him out of the picture Ballentine and Beal can get plenty of time the next three games. Take that money and give it to one of the best corners on the market wether it is Jones or if the Ravens let Peterson test free agency. Not sure who else is do up either has been better then JJ and are younger will fit with the youngsters.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 15, 2019 1:30:00 GMT -5
I think he was a good player on a bad team.
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 15, 2019 10:45:27 GMT -5
Actually heard the opposite on Giants insider thought is it came from the top. They actually said if it were up to Shurmur he would still be here. Doesn’t DG sits upstairs. On the right side of Mara . Yes, just a chairs throw away.
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Post by nick030567 on Dec 15, 2019 19:55:31 GMT -5
Overall good in coverage (fantastic in 2016), very bad effort as a tackler the last couple years. Has moments where he seems to quit. In retrospect I probably would have preferred they just stick with Amukamara who probably isn't as talented but at least he was home grown and part of a super bowl. I don't recall seeing him quit or lack effort either. Lack of effort really bothers me especially when the rest of your teammates are out there trying and you're just being selfish and lazy.
I think the apparent reason for his release was retarded, mostly because the whole irrational and impulsively emotional outrage/empty virtue signalling culture associated with it. His context and intent was clearly not to hurt anyone he was just annoyed and he isn't the best communicator like 90% of athletes. I've heard of athletes getting death threats after losses yet a word (which is really just a funny sounding vibration) is somehow offensive? Totally illogical. I understand for Gettleman it was probably just a last straw type of situation (lack of effort, reese's piece, calling out poor coaching in interviews, then his comments to a fan which he probably should have just ignored).
I think the biggest thing that stands out to me with Reese's 2016 additions is that they're all very sore losers which reflects a very weak mentality when football players need resiliency and camaraderie. When the going gets tough they fold unlike any I've seen. That could be said about most of Reese's additions post-2010 actually.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 15, 2019 20:02:27 GMT -5
What did you think of Janoris Jenkins in time with the Giants (2016-2019)? I knew nothing about him prior to him joining the Giants, and he was great in 2016 so I was very high on him. But I saw the signs of him quitting on plays the following season and like most people, I expected him to be traded. I gave him a pass last year due to the murder of his friend by his brother at the home he’s be renting in Fair Lawn. Keeping Janoris as a mentor this year gives us more reason to question Shurmur and Gettleman. Wow Rosey, you nailed every part of that. When he showed up to play he was a very good CB. (that was more often than not imo) He frustrated me to no end when he seemed to doze off during plays or choose not to tackle someone. He was a bit of a loose cannon but not over the edge all the time. I am happy he's gone, we have a stable of young guys who need to step up. Mentor? Wrong guy.
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Post by giantsalmon on Dec 15, 2019 20:13:48 GMT -5
I loved him in 2016. He won the Saints game with a blocked FG return, and did very well against Dez Bryant. Now, more than ever, every defender must be a willing tackler. The era of diva "cover guys" is gone. The young kids I see out there may be out of position sometimes but they appear to be willing tacklers-which Peppers certainly is.
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