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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 17:27:18 GMT -5
This was the guy Rhule Rhule wasn't allowed to bring to the Jets as his OC that scrubbed the entire deal
This is what I could come up with.
Sean Ryan
Albany (1998–1999)
(Graduate assistant)
Colgate (2000)
(Running backs coach)
Boston College (2001–2002)
(Graduate assistant)
Columbia (2003)
(Running backs coach, special teams coordinator)
Columbia (2004)
(Quarterbacks coach)
Harvard (2006)
(Running backs coach, recruiting coordinator)
New York Giants (2007–2009)
(Offensive quality control coach)
New York Giants (2010–2011)
(Wide receivers coach)
New York Giants (2012–2013)
(Quarterbacks coach)
New York Giants (2014–2015)
(Wide receivers coach)
Houston Texans (2016)
(Wide receivers coach)
Houston Texans (2017–2018)
(Quarterbacks coach)
Detroit Lions (2019-present)
(Quarterbacks coach)
Looks like an Erhert/Perkins system guy....but was with us when we were a hybrid WCO/Erhert Perkins offense when Mac was OC..
So there will be a bit of probably having to learn an entirely new system for Jones and the offense
Though he was in the Erhert/Perkins at Duke (Cutcliffe runs this)
Interestingly the air raid is basically the Erheardt/Perkins system albeit a lot simpler and more horizontal,which we had elements of here..
Also the recievers having to learn how to read defenses as this is a primarily option route based system,though with a numbers system where each reciever is assigned a number and the numbers are assigned pre snap which option route tree goes where.
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Post by GameTime on Jan 6, 2020 17:32:35 GMT -5
This was the guy Rhule Rhule wasn't allowed to bring to the Jets as his OC that scrubbed the entire deal This is what I could come up with. Sean Ryan Albany (1998–1999) (Graduate assistant) Colgate (2000) (Running backs coach) Boston College (2001–2002) (Graduate assistant) Columbia (2003) (Running backs coach, special teams coordinator) Columbia (2004) (Quarterbacks coach) Harvard (2006) (Running backs coach, recruiting coordinator) New York Giants (2007–2009) (Offensive quality control coach) New York Giants (2010–2011) (Wide receivers coach) New York Giants (2012–2013) (Quarterbacks coach) New York Giants (2014–2015) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2016) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) Detroit Lions (2019-present) (Quarterbacks coach) Looks like an Erhert/Perkins system guy....but was with us when we were a hybrid WCO/Erhert Perkins offense when Mac was OC.. So there will be a bit of probably having to learn an entirely new system for Jones and the offense Though he was in the Erhert/Perkins at Duke (Cutcliffe runs this) Interestingly the air raid is basically the Erheardt/Perkins system albeit a lot simpler and more horizontal,which we had elements of here.. Also the recievers having to learn how to read defenses as this is a primarily option route based system,though with a numbers system where each reciever is assigned a number and the numbers are assigned pre snap which option route tree goes where. so in other words a guy with a decent amount of experience, time with the NYGs, and in with Rhule. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 17:37:44 GMT -5
This was the guy Rhule Rhule wasn't allowed to bring to the Jets as his OC that scrubbed the entire deal This is what I could come up with. Sean Ryan Albany (1998–1999) (Graduate assistant) Colgate (2000) (Running backs coach) Boston College (2001–2002) (Graduate assistant) Columbia (2003) (Running backs coach, special teams coordinator) Columbia (2004) (Quarterbacks coach) Harvard (2006) (Running backs coach, recruiting coordinator) New York Giants (2007–2009) (Offensive quality control coach) New York Giants (2010–2011) (Wide receivers coach) New York Giants (2012–2013) (Quarterbacks coach) New York Giants (2014–2015) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2016) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) Detroit Lions (2019-present) (Quarterbacks coach) Looks like an Erhert/Perkins system guy....but was with us when we were a hybrid WCO/Erhert Perkins offense when Mac was OC.. So there will be a bit of probably having to learn an entirely new system for Jones and the offense Though he was in the Erhert/Perkins at Duke (Cutcliffe runs this) Interestingly the air raid is basically the Erheardt/Perkins system albeit a lot simpler and more horizontal,which we had elements of here.. Also the recievers having to learn how to read defenses as this is a primarily option route based system,though with a numbers system where each reciever is assigned a number and the numbers are assigned pre snap which option route tree goes where. so in other words a guy with a decent amount of experience, time with the NYGs, and in with Rhule. Pretty much |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 6, 2020 17:40:46 GMT -5
so in other words a guy with a decent amount of experience, time with the NYGs, and in with Rhule. Pretty much thanks for all the data tho |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 17:43:08 GMT -5
thanks for all the data tho That's about all I can find on him when i tried to find out more (ie,history and history in what schemes)once I started to see his name connected to Rhule. |
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 6, 2020 17:44:20 GMT -5
so in other words a guy with a decent amount of experience, time with the NYGs, and in with Rhule. Pretty much Not sure why he left the Giants, but is it possible at the time they wanted receiver coaches (LSU guys) that Beckham was more familiar with? |
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 6, 2020 17:46:28 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists.
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Post by GameTime on Jan 6, 2020 17:47:57 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Betcher still employed. I wonder why? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 17:52:17 GMT -5
Not sure why he left the Giants, but is it possible at the time they wanted receiver coaches (LSU guys) that Beckham was more familiar with? This is when Mac became HC |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 17:54:04 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Betcher still employed. I wonder why? Waiting for the HC to pick “his guy” |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 17:55:11 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Considering the development of Jones is the most important thing I would say OC and system fit is the most important Seems Rhule favored systems that had odd man fronts in his 2 stops in college,dunno if his DC at these stops were the same guy or what... I get the feeling if he is hired we stay in some form of 3/4..just a hunch,mainly because if we resign Williams and Golden we have a really nice base to build on |
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 6, 2020 18:15:52 GMT -5
thanks for all the data tho That's about all I can find on him when i tried to find out more (ie,history and history in what schemes)once I started to see his name connected to Rhule. I remember he was a little peeved when Obrien didn't offer him a n OC position , O brien hired his OC from outside a year or two ago and took a lateral move to the Lions. I don't know what the deal was the media here didn't delve into it much or I wasn't interested in finding out.
*Edit: O'Brien promoted the TE coach to OC this year and Sean Ryan left to be the QB coach for the Lions.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 6, 2020 18:22:21 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Considering the development of Jones is the most important thing I would say OC and system fit is the most important Seems Rhule favored systems that had odd man fronts in his 2 stops in college,dunno if his DC at these stops were the same guy or what... I get the feeling if he is hired we stay in some form of 3/4..just a hunch,mainly because if we resign Williams and Golden we have a really nice base to build on Absolutely Jones is #1 priority. If we hire Rhule I think they believe he can develop Jones. After that DC and OL are tops. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 6, 2020 18:23:14 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Betcher still employed. I wonder why? That would not be the worst thing ever. |
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Post by smitty on Jan 6, 2020 18:58:47 GMT -5
Bettcher cannot be employed by the Giants next year.
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Post by lasion2 on Jan 6, 2020 19:00:39 GMT -5
Callahan at OL would be my choice.
Pretty sure he brings his buddy from Temple/Baylor Phil Snow as DC. Know nothing about him right now other than Baylor runs a 3-4.
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Post by moecoastie on Jan 6, 2020 19:09:20 GMT -5
Bettcher cannot be employed by the Giants next year. Wade just got fired from the Rams. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 6, 2020 19:09:46 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Betcher still employed. I wonder why? DG said why in his interview. The Giants are doing anything they can for all the assistants, including paying them for travel to events that might help them get a job. Re-watch his presser. |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 6, 2020 19:12:08 GMT -5
Why would we hire our former assistant o-line coach and receivers coach to develop our QB?
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 6, 2020 19:13:40 GMT -5
Bettcher cannot be employed by the Giants next year. Wade just got fired from the Rams. He’s as old as dirt. But the man can coach a defense, I would hope our next HC would at least consider him for the job as DC. |
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Post by gmen21 on Jan 6, 2020 19:15:22 GMT -5
This was the guy Rhule Rhule wasn't allowed to bring to the Jets as his OC that scrubbed the entire deal This is what I could come up with. Sean Ryan Albany (1998–1999) (Graduate assistant) Colgate (2000) (Running backs coach) Boston College (2001–2002) (Graduate assistant) Columbia (2003) (Running backs coach, special teams coordinator) Columbia (2004) (Quarterbacks coach) Harvard (2006) (Running backs coach, recruiting coordinator) New York Giants (2007–2009) (Offensive quality control coach) New York Giants (2010–2011) (Wide receivers coach) New York Giants (2012–2013) (Quarterbacks coach) New York Giants (2014–2015) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2016) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) Detroit Lions (2019-present) (Quarterbacks coach) Looks like an Erhert/Perkins system guy....but was with us when we were a hybrid WCO/Erhert Perkins offense when Mac was OC.. So there will be a bit of probably having to learn an entirely new system for Jones and the offense Though he was in the Erhert/Perkins at Duke (Cutcliffe runs this) Interestingly the air raid is basically the Erheardt/Perkins system albeit a lot simpler and more horizontal,which we had elements of here.. Also the recievers having to learn how to read defenses as this is a primarily option route based system,though with a numbers system where each reciever is assigned a number and the numbers are assigned pre snap which option route tree goes where. Thanks for the info! |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 6, 2020 19:24:03 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Phil Snow. His DC at Temple and Baylor. At least that's the rumor. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 6, 2020 19:38:34 GMT -5
Any word on who his DC would be. That would be more important IMO. DC and OL coach has to be atop these lists. Phil Snow. His DC at Temple and Baylor. At least that's the rumor. It would be interesting at the very least. That's for sure. A new coach brings new hope, I just can't wait for the interviews to be done and move to the next phase. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 19:41:19 GMT -5
Callahan at OL would be my choice. Pretty sure he brings his buddy from Temple/Baylor Phil Snow as DC. Know nothing about him right now other than Baylor runs a 3-4. Ahh Any pro experience? Staying in the same system would help |
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Post by Martin on Jan 6, 2020 19:44:58 GMT -5
Wade just got fired from the Rams. He’s as old as dirt. But the man can coach a defense, I would hope our next HC would at least consider him for the job as DC. Wade would be a very good DC for the Giants. He was the scapegoat this time around. Hope he gets a shot cause he is excellent. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 6, 2020 19:47:17 GMT -5
He’s as old as dirt. But the man can coach a defense, I would hope our next HC would at least consider him for the job as DC. Wade would be a very good DC for the Giants. He was the scapegoat this time around. Hope he gets a shot cause he is excellent. Strange because that defense started to come on at the end once they got Ramsey.. From what I saw his contract expired and it was mutual.. Hmmmmm |
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Post by jb456 on Jan 6, 2020 22:20:42 GMT -5
This was the guy Rhule Rhule wasn't allowed to bring to the Jets as his OC that scrubbed the entire deal This is what I could come up with. Sean Ryan Albany (1998–1999) (Graduate assistant) Colgate (2000) (Running backs coach) Boston College (2001–2002) (Graduate assistant) Columbia (2003) (Running backs coach, special teams coordinator) Columbia (2004) (Quarterbacks coach) Harvard (2006) (Running backs coach, recruiting coordinator) New York Giants (2007–2009) (Offensive quality control coach) New York Giants (2010–2011) (Wide receivers coach) New York Giants (2012–2013) (Quarterbacks coach) New York Giants (2014–2015) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2016) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) Detroit Lions (2019-present) (Quarterbacks coach) Looks like an Erhert/Perkins system guy....but was with us when we were a hybrid WCO/Erhert Perkins offense when Mac was OC.. So there will be a bit of probably having to learn an entirely new system for Jones and the offense Though he was in the Erhert/Perkins at Duke (Cutcliffe runs this) Interestingly the air raid is basically the Erheardt/Perkins system albeit a lot simpler and more horizontal,which we had elements of here.. Also the recievers having to learn how to read defenses as this is a primarily option route based system,though with a numbers system where each reciever is assigned a number and the numbers are assigned pre snap which option route tree goes where. Good post with quality data. Thanks |
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 6, 2020 22:33:04 GMT -5
This was the guy Rhule Rhule wasn't allowed to bring to the Jets as his OC that scrubbed the entire deal This is what I could come up with. Sean Ryan Albany (1998–1999) (Graduate assistant) Colgate (2000) (Running backs coach) Boston College (2001–2002) (Graduate assistant) Columbia (2003) (Running backs coach, special teams coordinator) Columbia (2004) (Quarterbacks coach) Harvard (2006) (Running backs coach, recruiting coordinator) New York Giants (2007–2009) (Offensive quality control coach) New York Giants (2010–2011) (Wide receivers coach) New York Giants (2012–2013) (Quarterbacks coach) New York Giants (2014–2015) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2016) (Wide receivers coach) Houston Texans (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) Detroit Lions (2019-present) (Quarterbacks coach) Looks like an Erhert/Perkins system guy....but was with us when we were a hybrid WCO/Erhert Perkins offense when Mac was OC.. So there will be a bit of probably having to learn an entirely new system for Jones and the offense Though he was in the Erhert/Perkins at Duke (Cutcliffe runs this) Interestingly the air raid is basically the Erheardt/Perkins system albeit a lot simpler and more horizontal,which we had elements of here.. Also the recievers having to learn how to read defenses as this is a primarily option route based system,though with a numbers system where each reciever is assigned a number and the numbers are assigned pre snap which option route tree goes where. Good post with quality data. Thanks Yes GL, well done. As the Petty song goes--"the waiting is the hardest part". I have a feeling we will have a HC by this time tmw. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 6, 2020 23:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Jan 6, 2020 23:27:03 GMT -5
He’s as old as dirt. But the man can coach a defense, I would hope our next HC would at least consider him for the job as DC. Wade would be a very good DC for the Giants. He was the scapegoat this time around. Hope he gets a shot cause he is excellent. My knee jerk reaction to wade as the dc is no god no (i don’t that a lot when they come from rivals can you blame  ) but when I think about it I like the idea. |
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