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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 14, 2020 2:19:02 GMT -5
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Jan 14, 2020 3:36:00 GMT -5
Baltimore, Seattle and SF are going to be rough. No one else is unbeatable. I’d like to think our team is going to be stronger next year than it was this year. If we don’t do better next year than we did this year......well it will be a very hot seat for Judge.
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Post by TEM on Jan 14, 2020 8:31:10 GMT -5
At this point the schedule is moot. Those team are going to lose some components to FA.
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 14, 2020 8:41:58 GMT -5
Oh my God, this link shows all these unstoppable opponents for 2021, 2022, 2023.. they just keep coming out of the walls, we're ****ed, it's game over man!!! |
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Post by bluejayc on Jan 14, 2020 8:46:19 GMT -5
Tough projected sched? Sure.....but except for two specific games every year you know your opponents 5+ years out. It's not like this was sprung on them in an attempt to thwart success.
Barring some locker room mutiny there is no such thing as a hot seat for Judge this year in terms of win losses.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 14, 2020 8:55:44 GMT -5
Tough projected sched? Sure.....but except for two specific games every year you know your opponents 5+ years out. It's not like this was sprung on them in an attempt to thwart success. Barring some locker room mutiny there is no such thing as a hot seat for Judge this year in terms of win losses.He shouldn't be on the hot seat for 3 years. We are rebuilding again. Hopefully he believes in and likes Jones after 2020. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 14, 2020 9:03:56 GMT -5
Tough projected sched? Sure.....but except for two specific games every year you know your opponents 5+ years out. It's not like this was sprung on them in an attempt to thwart success. Barring some locker room mutiny there is no such thing as a hot seat for Judge this year in terms of win losses.He shouldn't be on the hot seat for 3 years. We are rebuilding again. Hopefully he believes in and likes Jones after 2020. And he's a young coach, and new to the organization. After churning through 2 coaches in 4 years, I think there will be a lot of patience if need be (lets all hope that he shines from the get-go!!). |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 9:52:02 GMT -5
At this point the schedule is moot. Those team are going to loose some components to FA. As I said last year when people said the Giants schedule was easy this past year the vikings and Pack had down years in 2018 and a few other teams the cards improved the schedule means nothing year to year faces change injuries happen. Teams overachieve and underachieve. |
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Post by thetruth on Jan 14, 2020 10:41:45 GMT -5
something not said enough. We had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this past year and still sucked. telling |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 14, 2020 12:07:32 GMT -5
Tough projected sched? Sure.....but except for two specific games every year you know your opponents 5+ years out. It's not like this was sprung on them in an attempt to thwart success. Barring some locker room mutiny there is no such thing as a hot seat for Judge this year in terms of win losses.He shouldn't be on the hot seat for 3 years. We are rebuilding again. Hopefully he believes in and likes Jones after 2020. Rebuilding again? When did we stop? |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 14, 2020 12:11:04 GMT -5
He shouldn't be on the hot seat for 3 years. We are rebuilding again. Hopefully he believes in and likes Jones after 2020. Rebuilding again? When did we stop? When we traded draft picks for 8 useless games of Leonard Williams? |
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Post by soflo on Jan 14, 2020 12:17:23 GMT -5
Baltimore, Seattle and SF are going to be rough. No one else is unbeatable. I’d like to think our team is going to be stronger next year than it was this year. If we don’t do better next year than we did this year......well it will be a very hot seat for Judge. I think they're going to play this one differently. They signed him to five years and nobody in ownership wants to be in this cycle of hiring a coach every two years. It would literally have to go horrendously but the rebuild isn't hampered by cap problems or being hamstrung by a 38 year old QB whose exit they're trying to handle delicately. The team has young building blocks it didn't have under MacAdoo just 2 years ago. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 14, 2020 12:58:25 GMT -5
so what...
you play the hand your dealt
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 14, 2020 16:16:15 GMT -5
Rebuilding again? When did we stop? When we traded draft picks for 8 useless games of Leonard Williams? Williams is 25 and Gettleman bet on his talent. He certainly improved the run defense in the statistics. |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 14, 2020 16:17:48 GMT -5
At this point the schedule is moot. Those team are going to loose some components to FA. As I said last year when people said the Giants schedule was easy this past year the vikings and Pack had down years in 2018 and a few other teams the cards improved the schedule means nothing year to year faces change injuries happen. Teams overachieve and underachieve. On a second thought, only the Seahawks, Ravens and 49ers are daunting. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 14, 2020 17:23:14 GMT -5
When we traded draft picks for 8 useless games of Leonard Williams? Williams is 25 and Gettleman bet on his talent. He certainly improved the run defense in the statistics. Ok. And we could have just got him as a FA and kept the picks. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 17:49:02 GMT -5
As I said last year when people said the Giants schedule was easy this past year the vikings and Pack had down years in 2018 and a few other teams the cards improved the schedule means nothing year to year faces change injuries happen. Teams overachieve and underachieve. On a second thought, only the Seahawks, Ravens and 49ers are daunting. Thats right and if anything happens to Bosa Jackson wilson or Garrapolo |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 18:00:16 GMT -5
Williams is 25 and Gettleman bet on his talent. He certainly improved the run defense in the statistics. Ok. And we could have just got him as a FA and kept the picks. WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 18:08:32 GMT -5
so what... you play the hand your dealt To be the best you gotta beat the best so ass whooping or not teams find out where they are. The Giants are gonna be learning a new defense and offense this year. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 14, 2020 18:12:51 GMT -5
so what... you play the hand your dealt To be the best you gotta beat the best so ass whooping or not teams find out where they are. The Giants are gonna be learning a new defense and offense this year. yep....and if you suck then you just suck. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 14, 2020 18:13:30 GMT -5
Ok. And we could have just got him as a FA and kept the picks. WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. His 3rd round pick of Joe Morris bailed his A$$ out from his pick 18 Buch Woolfolk debacle. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 18:14:03 GMT -5
When we traded draft picks for 8 useless games of Leonard Williams? Williams is 25 and Gettleman bet on his talent. He certainly improved the run defense in the statistics. And improved the pass rush because he was doubled a ton. Kid is a player the day they get a dominant force on the outside he will give 5 to 7 sacks a year. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 18:16:43 GMT -5
WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. His 3rd round pick of Joe Morris bailed is A$$ out from his pick 18 Buch Woolfolk debacle. I fthey pass on Williams and he goes some where they have some good outside guys he will dominate. The same people will be killing DG for not going all in. |
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Post by moecoastie on Jan 14, 2020 19:23:36 GMT -5
Ok. And we could have just got him as a FA and kept the picks. WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. I absolutely do not get the hate on Williams as a player. Is he worth the #9 pick in the draft? nope...but he is sure as hell worth a 3rd and a second contract. I understand its just a difference of opinion so I try not to get too worked up over it. His game may not always reflect on the stat sheet but you see it when you watch games. He does some of the stuff analytics wish they could quantify. |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 14, 2020 19:24:41 GMT -5
Williams is 25 and Gettleman bet on his talent. He certainly improved the run defense in the statistics. And improved the pass rush because he was doubled a ton. Kid is a player the day they get a dominant force on the outside he will give 5 to 7 sacks a year. Our run defense was also MUCH better with Patrick Graham here. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 14, 2020 19:29:50 GMT -5
Ok. And we could have just got him as a FA and kept the picks. WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. How George Young got into this conversation is an odd take. The man who helped turn around this franchise, was a 5x executive of the year, and drafted more talented players than many fans can remember should not be discussed in any way shape or form in a negative way. |
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Post by roundabout on Jan 14, 2020 19:43:51 GMT -5
And improved the pass rush because he was doubled a ton. Kid is a player the day they get a dominant force on the outside he will give 5 to 7 sacks a year. Our run defense was also MUCH better with Patrick Graham here. And probably the best run defense in Giant history was with some guy named Bill Belichick  |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 14, 2020 19:45:26 GMT -5
Ok. And we could have just got him as a FA and kept the picks. WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. WTF and we still could have gotten him as a FA without using picks. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 20:27:32 GMT -5
WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. WTF and we still could have gotten him as a FA without using picks. LOL enjoy. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 14, 2020 20:28:18 GMT -5
WTF still talking about this George Young F'd up ten times more then that because he wasn't afraid to take a chance. Williams if resigned is worth it guy is disruptive in the passing game and as solid as can be against the run. How George Young got into this conversation is an odd take. The man who helped turn around this franchise, was a 5x executive of the year, and drafted more talented players than many fans can remember should not be discussed in any way shape or form in a negative way. good by . |
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