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Post by titowooten on Jan 16, 2020 5:07:14 GMT -5
MacAdoo wanted Mahomes... should they have kept him because of that? yes, they should have listened. Not sure he would have become a good HC however he was correct on the qb situation. I think he would have been fine if we had drafted Mahomes. He went 11-5 in season 1 and was saddled with an aging QB and a ton of head cases who lost their minds once we started losing in 2017. If you have Patrick Mahomes to put in there once it becomes clear that Eli is finished then our football team is in a much better position than we are today. The defense would still be terrible probably but Mahomes can drop 40+ points on practically anybody so no big deal there. Shame Jerry didn't listen to him and move up, it's not like Engram or anybody else in that draft class combined for that matter was more valuable than Mahomes. Pretty much every great coach in the NFL has had a great QB with them. You can take Belichick, Vince Lombardi, whoever you want and put them with an average to poor QB and they're not going to win games consistently. Certainly not in today's NFL. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 5:26:02 GMT -5
I'm not here to judge you Pastrami, if you text with your niece and use the smilies as you have suggested in a comparison to debating with myself, I'm finding that a bit odd...but it is what it is...I'm simply not going past football into whatever world you live in...but I am still going to use my smilies. Remember now, we're debating your anger issues, and hating on a coach who was not at fault for a teams best defensive player being a guy named Golden. I will attempt to avoid using many smilies with you, as that seems to make you angry, and remind you of...well...remember, it is now me. So, you are suggesting Pat Shurmur now did not adjust in the second half. Please list some examples of where this happened, and how it cost us the game. While you see many failed A gaps, I see no gaps. I find this gapless scenario a result of not just coaching, but far more of that... not enough talent. I'm going to shock you now, but I feel Hernandez is not being used to the best of his abilities, and while a bit overrated by many in here as far as talent...he is not being used in any way that accentuates his style of blocking....yes, coaching failure. Did you ever feel the coach and GM were never quite on the same dimension in regards to what a DG wanted to build vs how a Shurmur offense and Bettcher defense found past success, and wanted moving forward? Do you believe we might bite at the free agent apple, despite what Gettleman says in saving cap money...to possibly save his job, and go for immediate help on the defense...the weakest area on this team...talent wise? Do you feel if DG does not purchase talent, we will improve with the new coaching? Do you believe it "could" effect Jones developing in any possible way by letting Shurmur go? Did we roll the dice, to simply appease your anger of losing? Do you possibly feel the most important aspect of the NY Giants moving forward being Jones, and becoming the franchise QB? What game made you suddenly realize Shurmur was costing us games with horrific coaching? If you are a coach, and your running back is hurt, the GM rids you of OBJ, the offensive line is a mess as created ...you are playing a rookie QB...your other receivers have injuries all year long, and the best player on defense is a guy named Golden, what halftime adjustments are you attempting to make? 
He's not a good HC. Never said horrific. He has never produced a winning team as a HC. If I consider Jones the most important aspect, then getting him a good coach is key...if your position is that was on Shurmur than we agree he makes a great QB coach, a position he has had success in. You watched him run Barkley into the teeth of the filthadelphia O-line over and over again...your defense of that sees to be that DG didn't give him talent and he used Hernandez poorly (your position)...so it was OK to continue to do what wasn't working over and over again? No responsibility to even try any thing else - he's a helpless victim? That's who you want in charge? No hatred for the guy...actually would like to have kept him as QB coach. There are better HC's out there. Ones that don't need to have a litany of excuses made for them. Comparing me to your niece in my posting/texting styles, to my questioning why you would text with your niece, and head into those sort of accusations?...it's a huge leap from boy band texting jokes with your family texting into where you are now at...you post quite a few accusations against posters, as a search reveals. BTW, ff the board did not want smilies, they would not have any....yet, there they are.  I don't see the correlation of smiles and pedophilia as you do...again, wow... You have not answered any questions pastrami...getting back into football Please try and answer if you can get "woke up", and shake off the snowflakes a from your shoulder Did you ever feel the coach and GM were never quite on the same dimension in regards to what a DG wanted to build vs how a Shurmur offense and Bettcher defense found past success, and wanted moving forward?
Do you believe we might bite at the free agent apple, despite what Gettleman says in saving cap money...to possibly save his job, and go for immediate help on the defense...the weakest area on this team...talent wise?
Do you feel if DG does not purchase talent, we will improve with the new coaching?
Do you believe it "could" effect Jones developing in any possible way by letting Shurmur go? Did we roll the dice, to simply appease your anger of losing?Do you possibly feel the most important aspect of the NY Giants moving forward being Jones, and becoming the franchise QB?
What game made you suddenly realize Shurmur was costing us games with horrific coaching?
During the 2nd year?... when?Cleveland?I'm still in firm belief he was let go not because of coaching, and we did not lose any games directly by his coaching...all talent based. Did he make some mistakes? Sure, and so will the next coach. Just try and have some patience Pastrami  |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2020 5:38:44 GMT -5
Tony, you know I work 60 hour weeks. I'm not sitting around a social club deciding who to screw, and who to wack...I can barely look at my phone to see the news this site gives me. I appreciate this board for some Giant insight, and many of the posters who give intelligent debate for my reading during breaks...but I simply can't join in and do the instant return fire. Apologies. So, I see you still have not answered my question.  How many games did you predict we would win before the season?...I know there is a thread around. I will now trail off into the TV world of fluff, and will not return an answer until the 3 day weekend ....have the last word my friend. Your refusal to answer a simple question - was/is Shurmur a good HC or not - speaks volumes. That is the only question/answer that matters here, because ultimately you need good coaching in the NFL to win. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 5:51:45 GMT -5
Just so everyone is clear...I personally don't find it super creepy that aris refers to my 12 year old niece in his posts. It's not for me to judge him to be a disgusting pedophile....that's the kind of judgement that will without a doubt come from a Jury of his peers one day. Anyway...back on topic: I can keep pointing out areas where Shurmur failed a a HC. Not a mob...me. One person. A person who has a 12 year old niece you seem fascinated with, which as I said, I don't personally find super creepy, but is certainly an indicator of a pedophile. And clearly, your position is that it's everyone's fault but Shurmur...despite not being able to point to any time where he was successful as a head coach. Can you point that out for the class? You can't, so let's keep playing: A good coach would use the halftime period to assess what went worked and what didn't work in the first half and:
A) require his coordinators to make adjustments
B) see if he can get a churro at the concession standIt's funny how he feels he is so rational - he's so emotional about Shurmur getting "scape-goated," and so prolific with the emojis, he might as well BE your 12 year old niece. In 4 years as a HC he has never won more than 5 games. It's possible that all 4 years were because of lack of player talent, but the Browns have been drafting high for 10 years and he couldn't win with them either. In 4 years he never improved either team. The Giants were rational for letting him go do something else he is good at. Why are you assuming my gender? He should have won in Cleveland because they had talent...from drafting high? Well, they should have listened to my not wanting to hire him from the beginning...when did we start using the Browns record here? Mob mentality at work...all massaging each other, and all over the place... I'm now a pedophilic poster, a niece, emotional, and the Browns had talent...  You guys sure have issues when a single poster disagrees...I've laid out perfectly sane rational, and I get the same rehashed PI challenges and A gap runs...over and over. WHAT games did he lose with the coaching? Its was lack of talent...Cleveland talent Oh no...a thread suggesting Shurmur should not be fired! Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 5:53:54 GMT -5
Tony, you know I work 60 hour weeks. I'm not sitting around a social club deciding who to screw, and who to wack...I can barely look at my phone to see the news this site gives me. I appreciate this board for some Giant insight, and many of the posters who give intelligent debate for my reading during breaks...but I simply can't join in and do the instant return fire. Apologies. So, I see you still have not answered my question. How many games did you predict we would win before the season?...I know there is a thread around. I will now trail off into the TV world of fluff, and will not return an answer until the 3 day weekend ....have the last word my friend. Your refusal to answer a simple question - was/is Shurmur a good HC or not - speaks volumes. That is the only question/answer that matters here, because ultimately you need good coaching in the NFL to win. Refused? I've said many times he should not have been hired. He's not a bad head coach, not a great head coach. Middle of the road? Now, how many games were you expecting to win last year? |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2020 6:32:46 GMT -5
Your refusal to answer a simple question - was/is Shurmur a good HC or not - speaks volumes. That is the only question/answer that matters here, because ultimately you need good coaching in the NFL to win. Refused? I've said many times he should not have been hired. He's not a bad head coach, not a great head coach. Middle of the road? Now, how many games were you expecting to win last year? I believe that we should have won more games than we did. Miami won 5 games with a roster that is not nearly as good as ours. As I said earlier in this thread, whether we would have won 1-3 additional games with a good HC or would have won no additional games, once you conclude that the HC is not good enough at his job, he has to go. Shurmur had 2 full years here and showed that he was not a good HC. It was time for him to go. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 6:56:01 GMT -5
Refused? I've said many times he should not have been hired. He's not a bad head coach, not a great head coach. Middle of the road? Now, how many games were you expecting to win last year? I believe that we should have won more games than we did. Miami won 5 games with a roster that is not nearly as good as ours. As I said earlier in this thread, whether we would have won 1-3 additional games with a good HC or would have won no additional games, once you conclude that the HC is not good enough at his job, he has to go. Shurmur had 2 full years here and showed that he was not a good HC. It was time for him to go. To further my Shurmur answer, as I get ready for work BTW...how do you and so many others get so much posting time? I assume retired and office work? Well anyway...Shurmur was good for a rookie QB....his players worked hard for him, and despite the fact to the contrary, he is a good offensive play caller. In game decisions? Meh...yeah, some issues. ,,,,but this is where I disagree with every hate poster...he had no talent to work with, and he could have improved his coaching with more time...sometimes patience is all that is needed. My biggest concern now is if Jones does not mold, and fails to become the franchise....right or wrong, a group of us will forever blame the Shurmur firing as to a reason why that happened. It will become one of these forever debates. I'm not sure I would have created that possible future...and another year of Shurmur with Jones should have happened for the future of this team without much in the way of future ramifications along the negative line. Sometimes these decisions are knee jerk, impatient, based on frustration.... and not very well thought out. Checkers due to emotions vs chess and patience. |
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 16, 2020 7:03:40 GMT -5
Your refusal to answer a simple question - was/is Shurmur a good HC or not - speaks volumes. That is the only question/answer that matters here, because ultimately you need good coaching in the NFL to win. Refused? I've said many times he should not have been hired.
He's not a bad head coach, not a great head coach. Middle of the road? Now, how many games were you expecting to win last year? Is that the level of excellence you wish to have in charge of the team? That's the goal post..."he's not a bad coach"? I have higher aspirations for the team, and replacing a HC whose skill level is "not bad" than that's what needs to happen. Let me help clear he other matter up. I mention my niece in a post...normal behavior. A stranger continually refers to a 12 year old girl...part of grand jury testimony at his trial. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 7:09:32 GMT -5
Refused? I've said many times he should not have been hired.
He's not a bad head coach, not a great head coach. Middle of the road? Now, how many games were you expecting to win last year? Is that the level of excellence you wish to have in charge of the team? That's the goal post..."he's not a bad coach"? I have higher aspirations for the team, and replacing a HC whose skill level is "not bad" than that's what needs to happen. Let me help clear he other matter up. I mention my niece in a post...normal behavior. A stranger continually refers to a 12 year old girl...part of grand jury testimony at his trial. I find that odd pastrami...and quite humerous. Not normal to be texting with a niece. I'm certainly not the one texting with her...despite the smilie connections.  Have you settled in on your favorite boy band member yet? We settled in on actuality, record wise...a bad coach when we hired him. We were hoping the Browns were not a good barometer...and I seen enough good Jones stuff for another year. With patience he could have corrected every small mistake you pointed out. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2020 7:43:57 GMT -5
I believe that we should have won more games than we did. Miami won 5 games with a roster that is not nearly as good as ours. As I said earlier in this thread, whether we would have won 1-3 additional games with a good HC or would have won no additional games, once you conclude that the HC is not good enough at his job, he has to go. Shurmur had 2 full years here and showed that he was not a good HC. It was time for him to go. To further my Shurmur answer, as I get ready for work BTW...how do you and so many others get so much posting time? I assume retired and office work? Well anyway...Shurmur was good for a rookie QB....his players worked hard for him, and despite the fact to the contrary, he is a good offensive play caller. In game decisions? Meh...yeah, some issues. ,,,,but this is where I disagree with every hate poster...he had no talent to work with, and he could have improved his coaching with more time...sometimes patience is all that is needed. My biggest concern now is if Jones does not mold, and fails to become the franchise....right or wrong, a group of us will forever blame the Shurmur firing as to a reason why that happened. It will become one of these forever debates. I'm not sure I would have created that possible future...and another year of Shurmur with Jones should have happened for the future of this team without much in the way of future ramifications along the negative line. Sometimes these decisions are knee jerk, impatient, based on frustration.... and not very well thought out. Checkers due to emotions vs chess and patience. The guy coached 65 games as a HC and has not yet hit 20 wins. He is what he is at this point: a historically bad HC who will never get another HC opportunity. Trust me, you will probably be the only Giants fan to ever say we should have kept Shurmur. |
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 16, 2020 8:21:55 GMT -5
Is that the level of excellence you wish to have in charge of the team? That's the goal post..."he's not a bad coach"? I have higher aspirations for the team, and replacing a HC whose skill level is "not bad" than that's what needs to happen. Let me help clear he other matter up. I mention my niece in a post...normal behavior. A stranger continually refers to a 12 year old girl...part of grand jury testimony at his trial. I find that odd pastrami...and quite humerous. Not normal to be texting with a niece. I'm certainly not the one texting with her...despite the smilie connections. Have you settled in on your favorite boy band member yet? We settled in on actuality, record wise...a bad coach when we hired him. We were hoping the Browns were not a good barometer...and I seen enough good Jones stuff for another year. With patience he could have corrected every small mistake you pointed out. Of course I text and talk to my niece...again, normal. When I do, I don't use a lot of emojis...that's the kind of thing that predators do to lull children into feeling safe around them; again, that will certainly come up at your trial(s). And HC of the NY Giants should not require a lot of on the job training, which you seem to be advocating. 60+ games in and he's still making them--what's the cut off? Give him 5 or 10 more years to stop making simple mistakes and we should be ok? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 8:23:04 GMT -5
To further my Shurmur answer, as I get ready for work BTW...how do you and so many others get so much posting time? I assume retired and office work? Well anyway...Shurmur was good for a rookie QB....his players worked hard for him, and despite the fact to the contrary, he is a good offensive play caller. In game decisions? Meh...yeah, some issues. ,,,,but this is where I disagree with every hate poster...he had no talent to work with, and he could have improved his coaching with more time...sometimes patience is all that is needed. My biggest concern now is if Jones does not mold, and fails to become the franchise....right or wrong, a group of us will forever blame the Shurmur firing as to a reason why that happened. It will become one of these forever debates. I'm not sure I would have created that possible future...and another year of Shurmur with Jones should have happened for the future of this team without much in the way of future ramifications along the negative line. Sometimes these decisions are knee jerk, impatient, based on frustration.... and not very well thought out. Checkers due to emotions vs chess and patience. The guy coached 65 games as a HC and has not yet hit 20 wins. He is what he is at this point: a historically bad HC who will never get another HC opportunity. Trust me, you will probably be the only Giants fan to ever say we should have kept Shurmur.The Big Red fan also wanted Shurmur to stay so that makes two.. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2020 8:26:32 GMT -5
The guy coached 65 games as a HC and has not yet hit 20 wins. He is what he is at this point: a historically bad HC who will never get another HC opportunity. Trust me, you will probably be the only Giants fan to ever say we should have kept Shurmur.The Big Red fan also wanted Shurmur to stay so that makes two.. True. Not only that, he basically guaranteed that Shurmur would be retained and ridiculed anyone who disagreed |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 8:35:09 GMT -5
The Big Red fan also wanted Shurmur to stay so that makes two.. True. Not only that, he basically guaranteed that Shurmur would be retained and ridiculed anyone who disagreed True there was that crap we all had to deal with for a few weeks. Thankfully the Giants got this move correct and also remember it was Getty wanted him to stay so once again the confidence with him is very low.. |
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Post by Nite on Jan 16, 2020 8:41:19 GMT -5
True. Not only that, he basically guaranteed that Shurmur would be retained and ridiculed anyone who disagreed True there was that crap we all had to deal with for a few weeks. Thankfully the Giants got this move correct and also remember it was Getty wanted him to stay so once again the confidence with him is very low.. Thats unfortunate. I was a Getty fan up until this point. Now I'm not really sure about him..
I wonder if BB gets fed up with Kraft and his shenanigans, comes back home and becomes President of football operations, does he fire Getty?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:00:00 GMT -5
True there was that crap we all had to deal with for a few weeks. Thankfully the Giants got this move correct and also remember it was Getty wanted him to stay so once again the confidence with him is very low.. Thats unfortunate. I was a Getty fan up until this point. Now I'm not really sure about him..
I wonder if BB gets fed up with Kraft and his shenanigans, comes back home and becomes President of football operations, does he fire Getty?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:08:30 GMT -5
I find that odd pastrami...and quite humerous. Not normal to be texting with a niece. I'm certainly not the one texting with her...despite the smilie connections. Have you settled in on your favorite boy band member yet? We settled in on actuality, record wise...a bad coach when we hired him. We were hoping the Browns were not a good barometer...and I seen enough good Jones stuff for another year. With patience he could have corrected every small mistake you pointed out. Of course I text and talk to my niece...again, normal. When I do, I don't use a lot of emojis...that's the kind of thing that predators do to lull children into feeling safe around them; again, that will certainly come up at your trial(s). And HC of the NY Giants should not require a lot of on the job training, which you seem to be advocating. 60+ games in and he's still making them--what's the cut off? Give him 5 or 10 more years to stop making simple mistakes and we should be ok? Texting your niece...again, not normal. Telling your 2 year old niece to only use words vs a picture...again, not normal. I'm sensing that not only are you the creepy uncle, but a bit of a nag. So, a head coach of the Giants will not be needing any on the job trining? Wow, good luck with that as the Judge oversees the impending trials and errors he will be enduring. When did that Cleveland Shurmur record become a thought we were going to be dealing with a coach that, well... might be learning some? We're now going to need patience with the Judge...I'm expecting mistakes, and hopefully you lighten up with impatience and allow coloring outside the lines. |
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 16, 2020 9:19:00 GMT -5
Of course I text and talk to my niece...again, normal. When I do, I don't use a lot of emojis...that's the kind of thing that predators do to lull children into feeling safe around them; again, that will certainly come up at your trial(s). And HC of the NY Giants should not require a lot of on the job training, which you seem to be advocating. 60+ games in and he's still making them--what's the cut off? Give him 5 or 10 more years to stop making simple mistakes and we should be ok? Texting your niece...again, not normal. Telling your 2 year old niece to only use words vs a picture...again, not normal. I'm sensing that not only are you the creepy uncle, but a bit of a nag. So, a head coach of the Giants will not be needing any on the job trining? Wow, good luck with that as the Judge oversees the impending trials and errors he will be enduring. When did that Cleveland Shurmur record become a thought we were going to be dealing with a coach that, well... might be learning some? We're now going to need patience with the Judge...I'm expecting mistakes, and hopefully you lighten up with impatience and allow coloring outside the lines. The teams patience with Shurmur ran out...I understand that you are have a lot of patience; undoubtedly valuable in slowly making children feel comfortable around you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:24:14 GMT -5
Texting your niece...again, not normal. Telling your 2 year old niece to only use words vs a picture...again, not normal. I'm sensing that not only are you the creepy uncle, but a bit of a nag. So, a head coach of the Giants will not be needing any on the job trining? Wow, good luck with that as the Judge oversees the impending trials and errors he will be enduring. When did that Cleveland Shurmur record become a thought we were going to be dealing with a coach that, well... might be learning some? We're now going to need patience with the Judge...I'm expecting mistakes, and hopefully you lighten up with impatience and allow coloring outside the lines. The teams patience with Shurmur ran out...I understand that you are have a lot of patience; undoubtedly valuable in slowly making children feel comfortable around you. So, when did you lose your patience pastrami? From reading your predictions, you went 6-10...the exact Vegas line. I'm now guessing you were not expecting big things, and even suggested we were a less talented team vs Pat's first year. Have you ever studied his coaching while at Cleveland? Were you for the hire? Against the hire? Do you drive an ice cream truck? |
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 16, 2020 9:28:06 GMT -5
The teams patience with Shurmur ran out...I understand that you are have a lot of patience; undoubtedly valuable in slowly making children feel comfortable around you. So, when did you lose your patience pastrami? From reading your predictions, you went 6-10...the exact Vegas line. I'm now guessing you were not expecting big things, and even suggested we were a less talented team vs Pat's first year. Have you ever studied his coaching while at Cleveland? Were you for the hire? Against the hire? Do you drive an ice cream truck? I didn't expect big things...I did expect competent, better than average coaching. We didn't get either. You seem perfectly happy with that |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:38:22 GMT -5
So, when did you lose your patience pastrami? From reading your predictions, you went 6-10...the exact Vegas line. I'm now guessing you were not expecting big things, and even suggested we were a less talented team vs Pat's first year. Have you ever studied his coaching while at Cleveland? Were you for the hire? Against the hire? Do you drive an ice cream truck? I didn't expect big things...I did expect competent, better than average coaching. We didn't get either. You seem perfectly happy with that Well, I expected a rookie QB to make progress...and I got that. So yes, I was happy with a draft pick that I felt was a mistake, and wanted him to succeed as he was with pat ...as I am under the belief having a franchise QB is the most important aspect in this game. His coaching was already a question mark since the Browns...my concern is Jones. And the fact we seem to have no direction, and are now firing and hiring coaches in a 2 year rate, and the GM is a blunder... I'm happy winning meaningful games...and playing past the 8 wins, and getting some playoffs....a rare aspect to reality for this franchise these days. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 16, 2020 9:41:48 GMT -5
I think FBOMB discovered Jones. Shurmur just simply read his posts and reacted.
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 16, 2020 9:43:39 GMT -5
I didn't expect big things...I did expect competent, better than average coaching. We didn't get either. You seem perfectly happy with that Well, I expected a rookie QB to make progress...and I got that. So yes, I was happy with a draft pick that I felt was a mistake, and wanted him to succeed as he was with pat ...as I am under the belief having a franchise QB is the most important aspect in this game. His coaching was already a question mark since the Browns...my concern is Jones. And the fact we seem to have no direction, and are now firing and hiring coaches in a 2 year rate, and the GM is a blunder... I'm happy winning meaningful games...and playing past the 8 wins, and getting some playoffs....a rare aspect to reality for this franchise these days. Don't like the GM Don't like switching HC every 2 years Neither of those things is a valid reason to keep an under performing HC, even if I don't like it. Hiring him was a mistake; you don't compound that mistake by keeping him out of fear. You find a better resource. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 9:53:11 GMT -5
Well, I expected a rookie QB to make progress...and I got that. So yes, I was happy with a draft pick that I felt was a mistake, and wanted him to succeed as he was with pat ...as I am under the belief having a franchise QB is the most important aspect in this game. His coaching was already a question mark since the Browns...my concern is Jones. And the fact we seem to have no direction, and are now firing and hiring coaches in a 2 year rate, and the GM is a blunder... I'm happy winning meaningful games...and playing past the 8 wins, and getting some playoffs....a rare aspect to reality for this franchise these days. Don't like the GM Don't like switching HC every 2 years Neither of those things is a valid reason to keep an under performing HC, even if I don't like it. Hiring him was a mistake; you don't compound that mistake by keeping him out of fear. You find a better resource. Ahh...so you don't like the GM...well, we agree on something. So, do you believe we are going to give him more than this year? And another question I asked previously, do you believe DG goes hog wild in free agency, to save his job? We're not fixing this mess with a 1, 2 and late 3rd round pick. The defense is bare... |
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 16, 2020 9:58:27 GMT -5
Don't like the GM Don't like switching HC every 2 years Neither of those things is a valid reason to keep an under performing HC, even if I don't like it. Hiring him was a mistake; you don't compound that mistake by keeping him out of fear. You find a better resource. Ahh...so you don't like the GM...well, we agree on something. So, do you believe we are going to give him more than this year?
And another question I asked previously, do you believe DG goes hog wild in free agency, to save his job?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 10:04:39 GMT -5
Ahh...so you don't like the GM...well, we agree on something. So, do you believe we are going to give him more than this year?
And another question I asked previously, do you believe DG goes hog wild in free agency, to save his job?
We're not fixing this mess with a 1, 2 and late 3rd round pick. The defense is bare...None of that is anywhere near a reason to keep Shurmur. I'm talking about Judge |
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Post by allnygin on Jan 16, 2020 21:00:19 GMT -5
Is that the level of excellence you wish to have in charge of the team? That's the goal post..."he's not a bad coach"? I have higher aspirations for the team, and replacing a HC whose skill level is "not bad" than that's what needs to happen. Let me help clear he other matter up. I mention my niece in a post...normal behavior. A stranger continually refers to a 12 year old girl...part of grand jury testimony at his trial. I find that odd pastrami...and quite humerous. Not normal to be texting with a niece. I'm certainly not the one texting with her...despite the smilie connections. Have you settled in on your favorite boy band member yet? We settled in on actuality, record wise...a bad coach when we hired him. We were hoping the Browns were not a good barometer...and I seen enough good Jones stuff for another year. With patience he could have corrected every small mistake you pointed out. seriously, its not even funny, quit being a f'n creep dude. |
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Post by Nullusion on Jan 17, 2020 0:17:15 GMT -5
I don't know if Mahomes has as much success without Andy Reid.
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