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Post by fifthavephil on Jan 15, 2020 10:17:03 GMT -5
I wonder if Burrow pulls an Elway or Eli . Tepper, probably overpaid for Brady. Luke Kueckly just announce his retirement 28 yrs old . Isn't Burrow from southern Ohio? Looks like a perfect fit to me. You are correct. But, if he really wants to be with Brady. It is a ( far fetch) possibility.
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Post by piddy283 on Jan 15, 2020 10:34:14 GMT -5
All 3 teams picking after us need a QB. I think it's highly likely one of those 3 teams trades up to #4 for Tua, Herbert, Easley, etc. In my opinion, unless Washington or Detroit decides to trade down allowing one of the "unicorns" to fall in our lap, trading down this year is without a doubt our best option in my opinion. 1 thing to consider is, Gettleman didnt trade back in 2018 when he had a perfect opportunity to do so and kick start the rebuild. In fact, DG has NEVER traded back in the 1st round as a GM. I think he just falls in love too much with players. I disagree with the idea trading back was the perfect situation in 2018 when Saquon Barkley was available. Similarly to the Skins being able to pick Young this year. Hard to pass on on potential HOF talent. I'm not sure if we even had suitors in 2018. DG isn't known for trading back, though, you're right. Should make for a very interesting draft!
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 15, 2020 12:05:51 GMT -5
The Pats trade back all the time (although they are never drafting in the top 10 like we do every year) ... maybe Judge pushes that philosophy? I doubt Judge has the power to make such a bold decision like that. He might be able to persuade a player pick, maybe, but not trade back or forward. I do believe that is all on the GM. (Correct me if I'm wrong though) I agree... just wondering if he would be able to persuade a newly-humbled Gettleman ....
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 15, 2020 12:38:18 GMT -5
Why would Bieniemy come here for a lateral move? OC/assistant HC like we just did Graham. Bieniemy isnt getting any HC love as an OC in KC maybe due to being under Andy Reid. If he came here and sparked this offense in a new environment, maybe he gets a lot more serious HC looks. ITs a long shot I know. He would also call plays here.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 15, 2020 12:42:52 GMT -5
I doubt Judge has the power to make such a bold decision like that. He might be able to persuade a player pick, maybe, but not trade back or forward. I do believe that is all on the GM. (Correct me if I'm wrong though) I agree... just wondering if he would be able to persuade a newly-humbled Gettleman .... Those decisions must be tough. I'm sure they are often time-limited, and you really need to have your ducks in a row to make sure you can still get value you want from the tradeback.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 15, 2020 13:02:41 GMT -5
I agree... just wondering if he would be able to persuade a newly-humbled Gettleman .... Those decisions must be tough. I'm sure they are often time-limited, and you really need to have your ducks in a row to make sure you can still get value you want from the tradeback. So if we move back from to 5, 6 or 7, we'd still be guaranteed to get one of the following players (assuming that Burrow, Young and Tua go in top 4)"
Okudah Simmons Thomas Wirfs
I think that if we moved farther back than that we would lose out on getting one of the top OT's, so I would be shopping number 4 to the Dolphins, Chargers and Panthers.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 15, 2020 17:07:18 GMT -5
They interviewed Shula on Monday. I don't know the inner workings of the team but if he worked with Jones (Jones said he did) then he did a good job. I don't feel like he had much to do with the offense but who knows. One thing is clear we are swinging for the fences with these coaching hires. No re-treads. No "known names". Joe Judge is building his staff with the people he wants. All of them have had connections to him in the past or were good coaches here last year. It was also reported early on that Chad O'Shea was talking to Judge about an unknown position on the staff, likely OC. Can we really build a team with the OC and DC of the horrible Miami Dolphins? Bill Callahan is out there and I want him in here for his work with the OL. He is possibly the best OL coach option out there as far as I know. Not sure he would make a good OC. He was the OC for the Cowboys in 2014 when they had a great year. He knows the OL and he knows running the football. I would have hired Callahan first. Still don't have an OL coach and he is one of the best. There are a couple really great OL coaches, will be a nice change if we have one of them for a change.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 15, 2020 17:11:48 GMT -5
The thing I wonder is if he is going to keep Shula, why hasn’t he done it already? Interviewed him on Monday, then interviewed Garrett today. IMO if he was going to keep Shula he would have done it already. It'll be Garrett or someone else, not Shula.
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 15, 2020 17:16:43 GMT -5
I doubt Judge has the power to make such a bold decision like that. He might be able to persuade a player pick, maybe, but not trade back or forward. I do believe that is all on the GM. (Correct me if I'm wrong though) I agree... just wondering if he would be able to persuade a newly-humbled Gettleman .... are you saying that Gettleman has been gelded?
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 15, 2020 17:18:51 GMT -5
The thing I wonder is if he is going to keep Shula, why hasn’t he done it already? Interviewed him on Monday, then interviewed Garrett today. IMO if he was going to keep Shula he would have done it already. It'll be Garrett or someone else, not Shula. I think Shula's body of work with the Giants leaves a lot to be desired, what did he actually do for the team.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 15, 2020 17:25:55 GMT -5
Those decisions must be tough. I'm sure they are often time-limited, and you really need to have your ducks in a row to make sure you can still get value you want from the tradeback. So if we move back from to 5, 6 or 7, we'd still be guaranteed to get one of the following players (assuming that Burrow, Young and Tua go in top 4)"
Okudah Simmons Thomas Wirfs
I think that if we moved farther back than that we would lose out on getting one of the top OT's, so I would be shopping number 4 to the Dolphins, Chargers and Panthers. I would stick at 4 if we want Simmons, or trade back to 5. If he goes to Detroit or we don't want him then we can trade back to as far back as Oakland and still likely land a starting OT. Assume Burrow, Young, Simmons, Tua go top 4. You still have Herbert, Jeudy, Brown and Okudah going before 12. That leaves only 3 picks left before 12 and we would have Thomas, Wirfs and Wills on the board, not to mention Jackson and Becton. This is a very deep OT tackle class. One of these guys might fall to day 2 even.
Overall if we traded to 12 (and 19) and ended up with any of those OTs plus a Ruggs or Kenneth Murray it would be a great day 1 for us. Now I would also be very happy with a trade to 5, 6 or 7 and an extra 2nd round pick. If they love a prospect and take him at 4 I'm ok with that too.
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Post by TEM on Jan 15, 2020 18:13:05 GMT -5
The thing I wonder is if he is going to keep Shula, why hasn’t he done it already? That situation is perplexing. Shula is in limbo not fired and not a staff member.
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Post by SG88 on Jan 15, 2020 19:01:53 GMT -5
We haven't signed an OC yet because we haven't found one to hire yet. Lol
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Jan 17, 2020 22:58:14 GMT -5
We haven't signed an OC yet because we haven't found one to hire yet. Lol because its Garrett and they need it to leak first as to ease the news on fans like Big Red.
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