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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 19, 2020 20:36:11 GMT -5
Has anyone been watching the early mock drafts ? This OT Wills is jumping up as everyone's best OT. He's climbing up ahead of Thomas as the so called experts best OT in the draft. He has only allowed 11 pressures all year, but just 1 in his last 5 games. This stat comes from James Remmer Pro Football Focus.
His schedule this year Auburn, LSU, Ohio St., and the rest of the SEC conference. The Senior Bowl is coming up don't know if he is playing or not. Jan.20th is the last day underclassmen can opt for the draft. Don't know if he's a senior or not. The combine is the last week of Feb. to March 2nd.
Any of you gurus who follow college football let me know if you were watching this kid. What do you guys think ? I hadn't heard his name till just this week. Judge should get plenty of info on this kid from his connections at Alabama I would think. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 19, 2020 20:49:10 GMT -5
Not a fan...more hype than anything
He should not be rated higher than Wirfs or Thomas
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:05:40 GMT -5
Technician master with better footwork and footspeed than Thomas, but plays right tackle. If he can play left tackle, he's comparable to Thomas, however...with even better footwork. He's also a master of hip rolls, and run blocking...to go along with his top notch pass blocking skills.
If he can play left tackle in the NFL, he's a solid 4 pick...I'm not seeing any hype here as GL suggests, as he is a great blocker, but some do not see him translating into a left tackle.
Wirfs has the same issues...right tackle who might not be able to play the blind side.
Trading down is the best option for the Giants....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:13:43 GMT -5
#74 Right tackle Leatherwood is a good prospect as well  |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 20, 2020 7:19:33 GMT -5
#74 Right tackle Leatherwood is a good prospect as well I think that Leatherwood is going back to school |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 20, 2020 7:20:22 GMT -5
Judge will probably be able to get good intel on this guy from his Alabama contacts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 7:23:16 GMT -5
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 20, 2020 10:03:47 GMT -5
You know if we trade back and can still get Wirfs or Wills even though their RT's would still be a steal plus the extra picks. In todays football the RT is a lot more than the premier run blocker. A RT can solidify the OL also. Baluga of G.B. is a perfect example for the last 8-9 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 10:17:22 GMT -5
You know if we trade back and can still get Wirfs or Wills even though their RT's would still be a steal plus the extra picks. In todays football the RT is a lot more than the premier run blocker. A RT can solidify the OL also. Baluga of G.B. is a perfect example for the last 8-9 years. Agreed...plus Willis could be playing right tackle because of Leatherwood. Same issue when Tyron Smith was selected at 9 as a right tackle...he was a RT in college (USC) while Matt Kalil was the left sider...did not miss a beat after Garrett moved him to the left side, and became arguably the best L tackle in the NFL. If you have it, you have it. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 20, 2020 13:44:37 GMT -5
I dont know what it is, but I dont have NEARLY as much faith in Wills as I do with Thomas or Wrifs, or even Tega Wanogho. Maybe its because I do have an admitted Bama bias, but I dont think he is close to the prospect that Jonah Williams was coming out last year
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Post by infinite420 on Jan 20, 2020 14:31:45 GMT -5
Want nothing to do with this guy......hes going to get beat like a drum in the NFL. He's overweight, and doesnt look strong at the POA. Not very quick feet either, no way he plays LT. Pass.
Now, Wirfs on the right side, thats another story
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 20, 2020 14:38:43 GMT -5
I dont know what it is, but I dont have NEARLY as much faith in Wills as I do with Thomas or Wrifs, or even Tega Wanogho. Maybe its because I do have an admitted Bama bias, but I dont think he is close to the prospect that Jonah Williams was coming out last year You watch a lot of College tape of offensive linemen. What do you not like in this kid? Thomas is a stud, and will be off the board at our pick or at 5. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 20, 2020 15:10:52 GMT -5
PROS: Dominant functional strength that shows up in a big way when run blocking. Generates tremendous movement and he knows how to maximize his power by rolling his hips through contact. Outstanding ability to find leverage points on his opponents and exploit them. Hands are heavy and his anchor is stout. Does well to fit his hands and his grip strength is unbreakable. Punches with excellent placement and timing. There is no going through him as a bull rusher or condensing his gap when drive blocking. Like the overall bend and posture that he plays with - leads to good balance and control. Sets a wide base in pass pro and does well to vary his strikes. Footwork in pass protection is polished. Reaches his set points and patiently mirrors. Almost never drawn out of his set and he stays square at a high level. Frames rushers with ease. Takes good angles releasing into space and his punch is devastating to second level defenders in pursuit. Executes with a finisher’s mentality and he fits the mauler, road-grader labels. Has tremendous awareness in pass protection and his overall timing is precise when fulfilling his assignments. He aligns at RT and displays sufficient athleticism for the position. In the run game he gets good vertical push. Has an excellent run game anchor and very good block temperament. He also has shown the ability to dominate on combo blocks and engage at the second level. He is good at the point of attack and plays with heavy hands. He has excellent power and nasty demeanor in a phone booth. Has shown good ability to cut-off defenders when he is on the backside. In the passing game he does an excellent job his pass set. He has a great anchor while in his short set. He has a very explosive punch and easily reacts to inside moves. He has very good technique, good length on the perimeter and plays with a good base. He has excellent schematic versatility and positional flexibility. Pass Sets - U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E. He's an elite pass protector with the best blend of step cadence, framing, redirection skill, patience and anchor ability. Quick sets, vertical sets, 45 degree sets — you name it, he can execute at a high level. He's patient with his hands, too — has effective stab and snatch techniques. Length - Plenty of functional length at his disposal and his ability to sustain blocks after contact is aided by good upper body and hand strength with hands extended away from his frame. He's got the ability to mix up his punches to temper upfield charges and keep defenders guessing on their rush track. Balance - Haven't seen him get crossed up with his feet once. He's got top shelf feet all around and shows a terrific understanding of how to maintain his platform as a blocker. Shows good reactive quickness to recover from body blows and awesome ability to drop the hips and gear down on the second level blocking LBs. Hand Technique - Biggest area of improvement from 2018. He's got a firm punch and good strike zone — although some of his finer moves (up field club) don't always fully find their mark. Highly encouraged by development here to compliment his smooth sets and shows good firmness with the inside hand to protect B-gap. Power at POA - Better stay low! If he rolls hips on you, it's over — he's crashed DL off the block on chips before climbing to 2nd level to swallow LBs and tear holes in 2 levels of the defense. Saw him stack and uproot Derrick Brown this season — he's got strong leg drive and core strength to maintain initial positioning and create push. Football IQ - Finely tuned technician who just so happens to check every prototypical box from a size and athleticism perspective. He's sharp and savvy with mixing up his sets and not letting pass rushers get the same look on too many consecutive rushes. His footwork will allow him to kill many reps before contact is even made. Functional Athleticism - Pretty startling to see him so clean in space. He's got no wasted steps and that includes on the 2nd level — he takes ambitious angles, too. Have seen him rip across cutoff blocks on 3Ts from the backside with success. Teams can roll protection away from him and still count of successful blocks on the island. Anchor Ability - He's built really dense, plenty of mass through the lower half and the core to help him provide strength to maintain clean fits. Shows very good range of motion through the hips to keep himself squatted and underneath the pads of defenders. He'll throw the E-brake and stonewall power rushes. Flexibility - Dynamic range of motion through his lower half. Hip hinge is strong in vertical sets to open his base for optimal distance as needed but he's also capable of suddenness with a wide base in short sets or mirroring the rabbit on the edge. His linear coil and explosive drive through the ground is A+. Competitive Toughness - He likes to chirp! If he blows you off the ball, you're going to hear it after the whistle. Passionate player who shows a great motor and great effort on screens and backside runs to work down the field and get involved to spring big plays. Functional strength is plug and play caliber, too. CONS: He's not a great athlete but will certainly suffice for RT. Although he doesn't get beat inside or on counters much, his lateral agility isn’t great. Needs to be more consistent maintaining his pad level over the course of the game. I’d also like to see him become a more consistently nasty finisher. He doesn't have true swing ability and doesn't project well at LT. However, his skill set would fit favorably at OG. Foot speed is outstanding for his size but he wins more with technique than springy footwork. Hand carriage has a tendency to get a touch low. Has played exclusively on the right side and a transition to left tackle if needed is an unknown. NFL COMP - Jason Peters A two-year starter for Alabama, Wills enters the NFL with 28 career starts and developed into a polished blocker over career. Wills is a refined pass blocker with exceptional technique, mobility, power and body control that makes him a dominant performer in pass protection. As a run blocker, Wills has tremendous functional strength and a maulers mentality to create vertical push and work angles in the run game. While he’s developed wonderfully at right tackle, there is no reason to believe he could not transition to the left side if needed. Wills is a blue chip talent and plug and play starter in the NFL. He has the upside to become one of the top offensive tackles in the league by Year Three. Jedrick Willis is a plug and play Pro Bowl caliber OT in the NFL. Wills has surreal ability as a pass protector, he's violent, he's controlled, he's smooth and he's smart. Wills plays with a chip on his shoulder and brings the kind of attitude adjustment up front that can make wakes and change the demeanor of an offensive line. Supremely gifted, Wills is especially attractive to teams that push the ball vertically, as his movement skills allow him to shine on an island in pass protection. STUD. thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 20, 2020 15:12:08 GMT -5
.... I dont know, maybe I am just letting my Bama Bias get the best of me, but I just dont think he is as good as Thomas, Wrifs, and Wanogho.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 20, 2020 15:22:47 GMT -5
.... I dont know, maybe I am just letting my Bama Bias get the best of me, but I just dont think he is as good as Thomas, Wrifs, and Wanogho. I wanted your opinion, not someone else’s. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 15:24:38 GMT -5
www.newyorkjets.com/news/nfl-draft-profile-alabama-t-jedrick-wills"Wills is a former five-star guy, so he's been on the radar for a little bit," The Athletic's Dane Brugler said. "He put together a strong sophomore year in 2018 and then he took a big jump this past year in 2019. We knew he was a mauler in the run game, but he's an ascending pass protector as well. He's explosive, he's long, he can move and he has the competitive appetite that you want at the position." He again, is a right tackle...5 star recruit. Most of us looking at tackles, are looking left...Wirfs for me the exception. His tape is out there, and all SEC fans have plenty of it...against top defenses. As of pre senior day, pre combines...I still go Thomas and Wirfs and my 1, 2 punch. Thomas as of now, my only 4 pick for OT...although would not hurl anything at the TV if we go Wirfs at that spot...still would wonder why not a possible trade back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 15:25:59 GMT -5
.... I dont know, maybe I am just letting my Bama Bias get the best of me, but I just dont think he is as good as Thomas, Wrifs, and Wanogho. I tend to agree with the first two as better choices...Prince does not, as of now...IMHO, have the mechanics of Wills |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 20, 2020 15:29:19 GMT -5
I dont know what it is, but I dont have NEARLY as much faith in Wills as I do with Thomas or Wrifs, or even Tega Wanogho. Maybe its because I do have an admitted Bama bias, but I dont think he is close to the prospect that Jonah Williams was coming out last year You watch a lot of College tape of offensive linemen. What do you not like in this kid? Thomas is a stud, and will be off the board at our pick or at 5. Its weird, he looks good on tape and the scouting reports are pretty good, but I just have a feeling that he isnt going to be that great in the pros. I have no idea what it is, but I just dont have faith in his game. I feel like its GOTTA be my alabama bias, because his tape is good and so is the scouting reports, its just a feeling I get about him |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 20, 2020 15:32:28 GMT -5
.... I dont know, maybe I am just letting my Bama Bias get the best of me, but I just dont think he is as good as Thomas, Wrifs, and Wanogho. I wanted your opinion, not someone else’s. Its weird, I cant pinpoint 1 thing or reason WHY I dont like him. I just feel like he is over rated and wont be nearly as good in the pros as he is in college, call it intuition or something but he checks all the boxes and looks good on tape but I just have little faith in him for some odd reason |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 20, 2020 18:19:15 GMT -5
I wanted your opinion, not someone else’s. Its weird, I cant pinpoint 1 thing or reason WHY I dont like him. I just feel like he is over rated and wont be nearly as good in the pros as he is in college, call it intuition or something but he checks all the boxes and looks good on tape but I just have little faith in him for some odd reason I'm feeling the same exact thing about him Both Alabama tackles were being overhyped... |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 20, 2020 19:43:55 GMT -5
WOW, a lot of you guys have been all over Wills. Even though some of you disagree everyone of you are knowledgeable above and beyond not only Wills but Leatherwood the other Bama OT as well.
It's like listening to my scouting department giving me info on this guy. I would be proud to have the bunch of you giving me scouting reports. I couldn't have asked for more input when I posed the question. Above and Beyond.
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Post by giantfromtheoz on Jan 20, 2020 23:43:52 GMT -5
I just feel like in 10 years time, Thomas is STILL the better tackle. He is a technician, he understands the game.
If we trade back and STILL get Thomas, that is the most ideal situation you could ask for (unless the Redskins decide they’re gonna pass on Young and be deadbeats for the next 50 years again)
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 21, 2020 10:52:08 GMT -5
WOW, a lot of you guys have been all over Wills. Even though some of you disagree everyone of you are knowledgeable above and beyond not only Wills but Leatherwood the other Bama OT as well. It's like listening to my scouting department giving me info on this guy. I would be proud to have the bunch of you giving me scouting reports. I couldn't have asked for more input when I posed the question. Above and Beyond. I just wish i had a better answer as to why i dont like the guy other than, "i just have a weird feeling". I WANT to like the guy, and if we draft him ill be in his corner 1000%, but right now id take Thomas, Wrifs, and Prince over him |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 21, 2020 12:14:02 GMT -5
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Post by lexington11 on Jan 23, 2020 2:04:55 GMT -5
Not a fan...more hype than anything He should not be rated higher than Wirfs or Thomas becton is gonna turn heads. would be a great 2nd round pick,,a mauler in the run game and solid in pass protection,,,a dancing bear if you will..plus he is a massive human being. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 25, 2020 8:38:37 GMT -5
Benton is the one I'm hearing rising. All the way to top 10.
Wirfs they are saying is more of a OG. And Wills is more of a RT.
Thomas is the only true LT I'm hearing consistantly but his stock appears to have cooled off a bit due to footwork. I'm not buying it. I saw him bully some really good pass rushers.
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