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Post by SG88 on Nov 17, 2018 21:09:52 GMT -5
In regards to Notre Dame, I think that they are playoff caliber and would do better this time around. They actually have a real QB. The best QB that I've seen them have in over 10 years. Meh. Syracuse was the 2nd best team they played all year. And the 1st was Michigan week 1 which made all the difference. I expect them to be exposed. We will see. I wouldn't sleep on Ian Book though. I do hope that you're right though. I don't like Notre Dame not even a little bit.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 20, 2018 18:32:30 GMT -5
Meh. Syracuse was the 2nd best team they played all year. And the 1st was Michigan week 1 which made all the difference. I expect them to be exposed. We will see. I wouldn't sleep on Ian Book though. I do hope that you're right though. I don't like Notre Dame not even a little bit. I'll like them a lot more once they quite whining and join a conference like everyone else.
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Post by r2z2 on Nov 21, 2018 12:59:16 GMT -5
We will see. I wouldn't sleep on Ian Book though. I do hope that you're right though. I don't like Notre Dame not even a little bit. I'll like them a lot more once they quite whining and join a conference like everyone else. Your blind hatred it amusing. You seem to be the one whining. ND is the only team to beat 4 ranked teams this year. The conference thing can also hurt them in some instances in regards to making the playoffs if you would stop being blinded by hatred you would understand that.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2018 13:07:12 GMT -5
I'll like them a lot more once they quite whining and join a conference like everyone else. Your blind hatred it amusing. You seem to be the one whining. ND is the only team to beat 4 ranked teams this year. The conference thing can also hurt them in some instances in regards to making the playoffs if you would stop being blinded by hatred you would understand that. Once they join a conference, I'll stop hating them. I dont like the fact they get special treatment. They are the only big name in any sport that gets to play by their rules. Who cares who they beat. They could beat Alabama 4 times and I'd still say no to the playoffs with them. I'm Irish. If they join a conference I could get behind them (except when playing Syracuse which they now have games set until 2029 to play against each other). Until they join though, yes, I want them to lose and dont think they should be given a shot in the playoffs. I dont care if they are undefeated and are super talented and worthy. I had the same issue with the Big 12 when they didnt have a champ game too, but at least they all were in the same conference and had to play by conference rules. Why does ND not have to? And we all saw what happened to them last time they made the Champ game. They obviously weren't that good and wouldnt have been there if they played a conference champ game so really they robbed a better team of a shot vs Bama to win a championship.
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Post by r2z2 on Nov 21, 2018 13:09:06 GMT -5
In regards to Notre Dame, I think that they are playoff caliber and would do better this time around. They actually have a real QB. The best QB that I've seen them have in over 10 years. Meh. Syracuse was the 2nd best team they played all year. And the 1st was Michigan week 1 which made all the difference. I expect them to be exposed. Your point about them beating Michigan week 1 making all the difference is a bad one. Although Michigan has played much better since so had ND. In fact Notre Dame won that game without dexter Williams and Brandon winbush behind center. Other than Alabama, ND can play with any team in the country. I mean Syracuse almost beat Clemson. Your blind hatred make you hard to take serious with your points. Lol
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2018 13:11:58 GMT -5
Meh. Syracuse was the 2nd best team they played all year. And the 1st was Michigan week 1 which made all the difference. I expect them to be exposed. Your point about them beating Michigan week 1 making all the difference is a bad one. Although Michigan has played much better since so had ND. In fact Notre Dame won that game without dexter Williams and Brandon winbush behind center. Other than Alabama, ND can play with any team in the country. I mean Syracuse almost beat Clemson. Your blind hatred make you hard to take serious with your points. Lol It's not blind hatred. I think ND can play with any team other than Bama and Clemson. They should have to play one of them before the playoffs in a champ game to show they deserve it IMO. I dont think they would beat Georgia either to be honest. And if we are comparing the Cuse ND game to the Cuse Clemson game let me enlighten you some. Clemson was starting Lawrence in his first career start, and he left the game in the first half with a concussion. That helps. And the game vs ND, it was over when they lost Dungey the starting QB 9 plays in. Not staying Cuse would have won, but it wouldn't have been that bad. So when compari ng those 2 games, just remember that. I think Bama and Clemson both could easily beat ND. And its unfortunate we wont see it until the playoffs.
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Post by r2z2 on Nov 21, 2018 13:37:46 GMT -5
Your point about them beating Michigan week 1 making all the difference is a bad one. Although Michigan has played much better since so had ND. In fact Notre Dame won that game without dexter Williams and Brandon winbush behind center. Other than Alabama, ND can play with any team in the country. I mean Syracuse almost beat Clemson. Your blind hatred make you hard to take serious with your points. Lol It's not blind hatred. I think ND can play with any team other than Bama and Clemson. They should have to play one of them before the playoffs in a champ game to show they deserve it IMO. I dont think they would beat Georgia either to be honest. And if we are comparing the Cuse ND game to the Cuse Clemson game let me enlighten you some. Clemson was starting Lawrence in his first career start, and he left the game in the first half with a concussion. That helps. And the game vs ND, it was over when they lost Dungey the starting QB 9 plays in. Not staying Cuse would have won, but it wouldn't have been that bad. So when compari ng those 2 games, just remember that. I think Bama and Clemson both could easily beat ND. And its unfortunate we wont see it until the playoffs. My point is if Syracuse could hang with them in Clemson, Notre Dame certainly can, ND can hang/ beat anybody except Bama imo. Not sure what you mean about being “exposed” in the playoffs. Could Clemson, Georgia, or Michigan beat them absolutely. It’s bama and everyone else but ND is right there with those other teams and would not be surprised if they won those games. I don’t think the cuse would have won if Dungey played the entire game but Syracuse would have put points on the board and it would have changed the dynamic of that game. Notre Dame struggled running the ball against Syracuse as well.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2018 14:01:26 GMT -5
It's not blind hatred. I think ND can play with any team other than Bama and Clemson. They should have to play one of them before the playoffs in a champ game to show they deserve it IMO. I dont think they would beat Georgia either to be honest. And if we are comparing the Cuse ND game to the Cuse Clemson game let me enlighten you some. Clemson was starting Lawrence in his first career start, and he left the game in the first half with a concussion. That helps. And the game vs ND, it was over when they lost Dungey the starting QB 9 plays in. Not staying Cuse would have won, but it wouldn't have been that bad. So when compari ng those 2 games, just remember that. I think Bama and Clemson both could easily beat ND. And its unfortunate we wont see it until the playoffs. Its like Bama and Georgia. Imagine if Bama was not in the SEC? Or Georgia? They would both be automatics and not have to play against each other in the SEC champ game. My point is if Syracuse could hang with them in Clemson, Notre Dame certainly can, ND can hang/ beat anybody except Bama imo. Not sure what you mean about being “exposed” in the playoffs. Could Clemson, Georgia, or Michigan beat them absolutely. It’s bama and everyone else but ND is right there with those other teams and would not be surprised if they won those games. I don’t think the cuse would have won if Dungey played the entire game but Syracuse would have put points on the board and it would have changed the dynamic of that game. Notre Dame struggled running the ball against Syracuse as well. Yeah, I dont mean to wrinkle any feathers here with you, I just feel ND would be "exposed", meaning, beat up pretty good, in the postseason vs Bama or Clemson. Id rather them get exposed now so they dont take away another teams chance who could be better, like we saw in 2013. To me, ND should not have been in that game and were exposed. It should have been Oregon or Florida IMO. And I think that year ND went undefeated too. Either way, I just want them to join the ACC or where ever they want to be. Play in a league champ game like everyone else has to. ID rather see ND vs Clemson in the ACC Champ game over it in the first round of the playoffs.
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Post by r2z2 on Nov 21, 2018 14:29:45 GMT -5
My point is if Syracuse could hang with them in Clemson, Notre Dame certainly can, ND can hang/ beat anybody except Bama imo. Not sure what you mean about being “exposed” in the playoffs. Could Clemson, Georgia, or Michigan beat them absolutely. It’s bama and everyone else but ND is right there with those other teams and would not be surprised if they won those games. I don’t think the cuse would have won if Dungey played the entire game but Syracuse would have put points on the board and it would have changed the dynamic of that game. Notre Dame struggled running the ball against Syracuse as well. Yeah, I dont mean to wrinkle any feathers here with you, I just feel ND would be "exposed", meaning, beat up pretty good, in the postseason vs Bama or Clemson. Id rather them get exposed now so they dont take away another teams chance who could be better, like we saw in 2013. To me, ND should not have been in that game and were exposed. It should have been Oregon or Florida IMO. And I think that year ND went undefeated too. Either way, I just want them to join the ACC or where ever they want to be. Play in a league champ game like everyone else has to. ID rather see ND vs Clemson in the ACC Champ game over it in the first round of the playoffs. Fair enough. I agree I’d like them to join a conference but we both know that with the NBC deal and how greedy that school is with money it won’t happen. I actually think it hurts them not playing in a conference title game in some instances but that gets evened out with the benefit of the doubt they will always get when it’s between them and another team. Anyway have happy thanksgiving bud. Go yanks.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2018 15:24:30 GMT -5
Lol @ Michigan fans thinking that they would FINALLY beat Ohio St. On a better note, Cuse is about to finish up at 9-3. Hell yeah
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 24, 2018 15:28:07 GMT -5
Lol @ Michigan fans thinking that they would FINALLY beat Ohio St. On a better note, Cuse is about to finish up at 9-3. Hell yeah Syracuse fan making fun of Michigan after they got humiliated by ND last week ... lol ok
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 24, 2018 15:29:56 GMT -5
Cuse!
I can not believe Dungey played today. The only way they win. I think this game shows why they got destroyed vs Notre Dame. Without Dungey the offense had no life.
What a stud. Not an NFL QB but the best I've seen @ Cuse since McNabb. So fun to watch. Just always injured.
And the Long Island native Cisco get his 7th interception on the season to seal the deal!
Go Orange!
What a great year!
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 24, 2018 15:57:11 GMT -5
Lol @ Michigan fans thinking that they would FINALLY beat Ohio St. On a better note, Cuse is about to finish up at 9-3. Hell yeah Syracuse fan making fun of Michigan after they got humiliated by ND last week ... lol ok I wont make fun of Michigan as I like them, and they are better than Cuse no doubt, which they should be, but come on. Cuse was shot when Dungey who is arguably the best ACC QB of the year went out 9 plays into the game. Not saying they would have won, but that took everything out. Just look at him today AT Boston College to see how impactful he is.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2018 17:34:33 GMT -5
Lol @ Michigan fans thinking that they would FINALLY beat Ohio St. On a better note, Cuse is about to finish up at 9-3. Hell yeah Syracuse fan making fun of Michigan after they got humiliated by ND last week ... lol ok How did the "best defense in the country" allow 60+ points? Anyways, Syracuse did lose their starting QB early in that game. They would have still lost IMO, but it would not have been by that much. at least your squad is still going to a good bowl. That isn't something to be disappointed about.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2018 18:15:42 GMT -5
Rutgers vs UConn. Who ya got?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 25, 2018 7:49:09 GMT -5
Man.... USC almost took out ND. And you want to tell me they could beat Clemson or Georgia? Nah...
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 28, 2018 17:46:50 GMT -5
After seeing the latest CFP top 25, I will clearly state the obvious:
The SEC is ruining college football with their money and ability to make money.
The most overrated conference in the land by a large margin. Change my mind.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 28, 2018 20:11:59 GMT -5
After seeing the latest CFP top 25, I will clearly state the obvious: The SEC is ruining college football with their money and ability to make money. The most overrated conference in the land by a large margin. Change my mind. If Georgia actually beats Alabama, the tide are still getting into the final 4. It is an SEC world and we are just living in it.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 28, 2018 20:26:08 GMT -5
After seeing the latest CFP top 25, I will clearly state the obvious: The SEC is ruining college football with their money and ability to make money. The most overrated conference in the land by a large margin. Change my mind. If Georgia actually beats Alabama, the tide are still getting into the final 4. It is an SEC world and we are just living in it. No, dont get me wrong, Bama and Georgia are legit. Bama would beat Georgia by at least 21 though. Florida is not. Kentucky is not. Both those 2 should be closer to 25. LSU is, eh. Ok. The other teams dont even belong in the top 40. Its just the SEC teams beat up each other and softies from elsewhere. So when they are all ranked high, all their wins look great and their loses dont look bad. Its garbage. Cuse was 9-3. 2 loses came in the final seconds AT both Clemson and Pitt, both who are playing in the ACC title game. The 3rd loss was neutral sight vs ND and they lost their QB in the first 9 plays. So thats 2 losses vs the #2, #3 and recently ranked, title game bound Pitt team ALL ON THE ROAD. They throttle BC who was a top 25 team until last week, in Boston, and dont move up 1 spot? Texas AM is 8-4, a worse record, and jumps over Cuse? How is that possible? SEC bias and Money, thats how. 8 teams in the top 25? Give me break. Just put the entire conference in there. Lets them play for their own title and everyone else have theirs. Thats embarrassing for the league.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 28, 2018 21:22:36 GMT -5
If Georgia actually beats Alabama, the tide are still getting into the final 4. It is an SEC world and we are just living in it. No, dont get me wrong, Bama and Georgia are legit. Bama would beat Georgia by at least 21 though. Florida is not. Kentucky is not. Both those 2 should be closer to 25. LSU is, eh. Ok. The other teams dont even belong in the top 40. Its just the SEC teams beat up each other and softies from elsewhere. So when they are all ranked high, all their wins look great and their loses dont look bad. Its garbage. Cuse was 9-3. 2 loses came in the final seconds AT both Clemson and Pitt, both who are playing in the ACC title game. The 3rd loss was neutral sight vs ND and they lost their QB in the first 9 plays. So thats 2 losses vs the #2, #3 and recently ranked, title game bound Pitt team ALL ON THE ROAD. They throttle BC who was a top 25 team until last week, in Boston, and dont move up 1 spot? Texas AM is 8-4, a worse record, and jumps over Cuse? How is that possible? SEC bias and Money, thats how. 8 teams in the top 25? Give me break. Just put the entire conference in there. Lets them play for their own title and everyone else have theirs. Thats embarrassing for the league. I agree 100%.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 2, 2018 17:15:29 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the 4 teams? Personally, I have no issues with it. Ohio St can thank that loss to Purdue for them being left out.
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Post by SG88 on Dec 2, 2018 17:30:05 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 2, 2018 17:59:39 GMT -5
Well that's disappointing. I was hoping they would whoop up some overrated SEC teams ass. They just played WV in a bowl game a few years back. And beat up Geno Smith in a game they went supposed to win. Now its Will Grier.
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Post by simmsforprez on Dec 3, 2018 12:32:50 GMT -5
I would like to see two 8-team playoffs; one for the P5 and one for the G5. Everyone knows the G5 has no chance in winning a championship when compared to the P5. Nobody wants to see Alabama vs Western Kentucky in a playoff game. Let the G5 play against each other...just like the P5. 5 conference champions and 3 at-larges in both.
P5 (1)Alabama (13-0) vs (8)Washington (10-3) (4)Oklahoma (12-1) vs (5)Georgia (11-2)
(2)Clemson (13-0) vs (7)Michigan (10-2) (3)Notre Dame (12-0) vs (6)Ohio St (12-1) ----- G5 (1)UCF (12-0) vs (8)No Illinois (8-5) (4)Boise St (10-3) vs (5)UAB (10-3)
(2)Fresno St (11-2) vs (7)App St (10-2) (3)x-Army (10-2) vs (6)Utah St (10-2) x-Assuming they beat Navy. If they lose Cincinnati (10-2) may take that spot.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 3, 2018 19:49:25 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Kentucky is a good football team? Like, top 25 good?
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Post by simmsforprez on Dec 4, 2018 17:47:41 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Kentucky is a good football team? Like, top 25 good? I'd say they are this year. 9-3 is pretty good for them. They beat Florida for the first time in 31 years. I doubt they sustain it.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 4, 2018 18:20:14 GMT -5
Does anyone really think Kentucky is a good football team? Like, top 25 good? I'd say they are this year. 9-3 is pretty good for them. They beat Florida for the first time in 31 years. I doubt they sustain it. You know why? BECAUSE FLORIDA IS OVERRATED! Florida also lost to Missouri @ home! I agree, they are better than a normal Kentucky year, but to say they are top 15 is absurd. Kentucky is not that good of a football team. SEC was down this year IMO, but you cant tell because they all pat each other on the back after they play each other and it helps both the winner and the loser.
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Post by TEM on Dec 4, 2018 19:58:21 GMT -5
I'd say they are this year. 9-3 is pretty good for them. They beat Florida for the first time in 31 years. I doubt they sustain it. You know why? BECAUSE FLORIDA IS OVERRATED! Florida also lost to Missouri @ home! I agree, they are better than a normal Kentucky year, but to say they are top 15 is absurd. Kentucky is not that good of a football team. SEC was down this year IMO, but you cant tell because they all pat each other on the back after they play each other and it helps both the winner and the loser. Florida also was beat by VT at home in September.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 4, 2018 20:02:45 GMT -5
You know why? BECAUSE FLORIDA IS OVERRATED! Florida also lost to Missouri @ home! I agree, they are better than a normal Kentucky year, but to say they are top 15 is absurd. Kentucky is not that good of a football team. SEC was down this year IMO, but you cant tell because they all pat each other on the back after they play each other and it helps both the winner and the loser. Florida also was beat by VT at home in September. Nah, they lost to Georgia, Kentucky and Missouri. Living in Gator town, their 9-3 record is smoke and mirrors. I saw them all the time. Even a lot of their fans didnt think they had a great year despite the 9-3 record. They dont have a QB. I think Michigan will beat them pretty handedly.
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Post by TEM on Dec 4, 2018 20:04:10 GMT -5
Florida also was beat by VT at home in September. Living in Gator town, their 9-3 record is smoke and mirrors. I saw them all the time. Even a lot of their fans didnt think they had a great year despite the 9-3 record. They dont have a QB. I think Michigan will beat them pretty handedly. I agree.
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