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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 7, 2019 9:01:14 GMT -5
I've tried defending the play call that lead to safety, but to no avail. Hand off to 3rd string back, on slow developing run play, when their dline was handling ours up the middle....no excuse I would have been ok with it, if he disguised it better. I dont think he had any WRs wide. Minny stacked the box. Our OL was struggling. Even Barkley would have been stuffed there. He should have at least spread the defenses putting receivers out wide. Running wasnt the worst call. How they did it was. What is unacceptable is how he explained it postgame. "It's only 2 points... we lost by how many? 18?" I mean, he had to ask the media how much he just lost by...
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Post by Dogecoin on Oct 10, 2019 22:16:09 GMT -5
Punt on 4th and 2, down 2 scores, putting a tired defense back on the field. No way they get the ball back in time, and odds are they give up more points. Punt there ended it. Didn't take a genius to get that. His ceiling and thus the teams is mediocrity as long as he's in there.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 10, 2019 22:22:29 GMT -5
At this point, they should fire him and concede that they ****ed this one up. They did the same with McAdoo and should do it to him. This team has a structural problem. I'm not sure that they have the right guys making the big time decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 22:22:44 GMT -5
Punt on 4th and 2, down 2 scores, putting a tired defense back on the field. No way they get the ball back in time, and odds are they give up more points. Punt there ended it. Didn't take a genius to get that. His ceiling and thus the teams is mediocrity as long as he's in there. Unfortunately I think you’re right. This is really bad as it will likely take years to move on from him and then Jones will have to learn a new O. But Shurmur has not shown the ability to be a HC. He is a good coach but not a HC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 22:26:34 GMT -5
Punt on 4th and 2, down 2 scores, putting a tired defense back on the field. No way they get the ball back in time, and odds are they give up more points. Punt there ended it. Didn't take a genius to get that. His ceiling and thus the teams is mediocrity as long as he's in there. Totally agree. That was the nail in the coffin
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2019 22:27:45 GMT -5
Having serious doubts about Shurmer, Bettcher, Gettleman and after 3 straight bad games, Daniel Jones.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 22:28:20 GMT -5
I've tried defending the play call that lead to safety, but to no avail. Hand off to 3rd string back, on slow developing run play, when their dline was handling ours up the middle....no excuse I would have been ok with it, if he disguised it better. I dont think he had any WRs wide. Minny stacked the box. Our OL was struggling. Even Barkley would have been stuffed there. He should have at least spread the defenses putting receivers out wide. Running wasnt the worst call. How they did it was. What is unacceptable is how he explained it postgame. "It's only 2 points... we lost by how many? 18?" I mean, he had to ask the media how much he just lost by... Could have actually been a TD there. The Vikings totally sold out and brought everyone in for the run. Had we play actioned who knows
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 10, 2019 22:29:12 GMT -5
We are going to be set back 4-5 more years soon... fire the HC, new HC, new offense, new QB, new GM, Barkley gone... it wont end.
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Post by sanddc178 on Oct 10, 2019 22:36:09 GMT -5
I wonder how different this team would be if we actually blew it up instead of the "continuity" route we opted for.
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Post by giantsrock on Oct 10, 2019 22:52:38 GMT -5
At this point, they should fire him and concede that they ****ed this one up. They did the same with McAdoo and should do it to him. This team has a structural problem. I'm not sure that they have the right guys making the big time decisions. They were 7 points behind the best team in the league with 8 1/2 minutes left to play and several of our best players missing and you want him fired? It wasnt him that fumbled it and opened the flood gates.
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Post by giantsrock on Oct 10, 2019 23:07:10 GMT -5
I would have been ok with it, if he disguised it better. I dont think he had any WRs wide. Minny stacked the box. Our OL was struggling. Even Barkley would have been stuffed there. He should have at least spread the defenses putting receivers out wide. Running wasnt the worst call. How they did it was. What is unacceptable is how he explained it postgame. "It's only 2 points... we lost by how many? 18?" I mean, he had to ask the media how much he just lost by... Could have actually been a TD there. The Vikings totally sold out and brought everyone in for the run. Had we play actioned who knows At best it would have been a sack. At worst a sack fumble.
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Post by dream88 on Oct 10, 2019 23:07:29 GMT -5
We are going to be set back 4-5 more years soon... fire the HC, new HC, new offense, new QB, new GM, Barkley gone... it wont end. Oh gotcha, we’ve already determined Jones is a bust after a bad game on a short week against the #1 D without RB1, RB2, WR1, TE1.
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Post by dannydimes8 on Oct 10, 2019 23:15:31 GMT -5
At this point, they should fire him and concede that they ****ed this one up. They did the same with McAdoo and should do it to him. This team has a structural problem. I'm not sure that they have the right guys making the big time decisions. They were 7 points behind the best team in the league with 8 1/2 minutes left to play and several of our best players missing and you want him fired? It wasnt him that fumbled it and opened the flood gates. The Pats were missing 3 starting Olineman in a game impacted by wind. I love when fans create reality. We lost 35-14 and they kneeled at 3 to end it. The game wasn’t closer than the score. We got 7 of our points when Brady held the ball for 45 seconds leading to a sack fumble. We never drove the field. Our other 7 came on a long pass that the Pats corner got his fingers on tipping it and Tate catching it off the deflection. If that guy had longer finger nails our offense doesn’t score tonight.
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Post by dannydimes8 on Oct 10, 2019 23:18:33 GMT -5
TOP 40 to 20
Doubled our yardage
27 first downs to 10
We got pistol whipped
35-14
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 11, 2019 1:01:12 GMT -5
I wonder how different this team would be if we actually blew it up instead of the "continuity" route we opted for. I think they blew the team up real good.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 11, 2019 2:49:47 GMT -5
At this point, they should fire him and concede that they ****ed this one up. They did the same with McAdoo and should do it to him. This team has a structural problem. I'm not sure that they have the right guys making the big time decisions. They were 7 points behind the best team in the league with 8 1/2 minutes left to play and several of our best players missing and you want him fired? It wasnt him that fumbled it and opened the flood gates. He's just not HC material to me. Look at his overall record. Explain how big of a difference he has made since he got here. I'm going to go out in a limb and say not much. It is way better to admit being wrong soon and moving on rather than realizing you were wrong way later after wasting a lot of time.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2019 4:14:03 GMT -5
I wonder how different this team would be if we actually blew it up instead of the "continuity" route we opted for. I think they blew the team up real good. These hot takes are really hot around here it seems
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Post by TEM on Oct 11, 2019 7:27:35 GMT -5
Some of these posts are hilarious. Some of you guys think the coach is going to compromise the rookie for a win.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2019 7:30:11 GMT -5
Some of these posts are hilarious. Some of you guys think the coach is going to compromise the rookie for a win. Nevermind the fact these people want us to get rid of the guy that basicly hand picked the franchise's next qb to fit his system,conveniently forgetting in all likelihood that Jones won't be as good a fit in the new system the hypothetical new coach will install Simple minded people with tunnel vision and hot takes
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2019 7:46:41 GMT -5
We are going to be set back 4-5 more years soon... fire the HC, new HC, new offense, new QB, new GM, Barkley gone... it wont end. Oh gotcha, we’ve already determined Jones is a bust after a bad game on a short week against the #1 D without RB1, RB2, WR1, TE1. In all fairness, Jones had had 1 good game, 1 bad game, and 2 terrible games so far. He's actually looked worse each game. I am not saying he's a bust, but to call him a bust at this point seems equal but opposite to those all saying he's our next franchisee QB. Certainly hasn't looked the part since Tampa, rookie or not.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 11, 2019 7:55:11 GMT -5
At this point, they should fire him and concede that they ****ed this one up. They did the same with McAdoo and should do it to him. This team has a structural problem. I'm not sure that they have the right guys making the big time decisions. They were 7 points behind the best team in the league with 8 1/2 minutes left to play and several of our best players missing and you want him fired? It wasnt him that fumbled it and opened the flood gates. 5 turnovers, but not going for it on 4th and 2 from our 40 lost the game? I would have probably gone for it in that situation, but that's not what lost the game.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 11, 2019 8:10:23 GMT -5
Punt on 4th and 2, down 2 scores, putting a tired defense back on the field. No way they get the ball back in time, and odds are they give up more points. Punt there ended it. Didn't take a genius to get that. His ceiling and thus the teams is mediocrity as long as he's in there. Unfortunately I think you’re right. This is really bad as it will likely take years to move on from him and then Jones will have to learn a new O. But Shurmur has not shown the ability to be a HC. He is a good coach but not a HC. I'll ask this, although I realize it's not very feasible in terms of pride and respect - could Shurmur stay on but be relegated to the OC position, and a different HC (defensive minded) be brought on?
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Post by sanddc178 on Oct 11, 2019 8:32:39 GMT -5
I wonder how different this team would be if we actually blew it up instead of the "continuity" route we opted for. I think they blew the team up real good. No, I'm talking 3-5 years ago. Should've worded that better.
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Post by dannydimes8 on Oct 11, 2019 8:48:02 GMT -5
TOP 40 to 20 Doubled our yardage 27 first downs to 10 We got pistol whipped 35-14 So did you watch the game or not becuase your making shit up , 21-14 game with 9 mins left to play is not a pistol whipping. The game was non-competitive. It’s 60 minutes long. They controlled the football and wore down our D. We’re moving at will in the 4th quarter. They shut down our offense aside from literally 1 play.
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Post by TGTW92 on Oct 11, 2019 8:52:01 GMT -5
So who would you guys like to see as the HC instead? Who could elevate Jones, SB, Evan, etc. to the next level and have us in the playoffs more frequently?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2019 8:55:04 GMT -5
So who would you guys like to see as the HC instead? Who could elevate Jones, SB, Evan, etc. to the next level and have us in the playoffs more frequently? Oh And force a qb that wsd picked 6th by said coach people want fired because he was the perfect fit for his system to be forced into another system he might not be good in
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Post by dannydimes8 on Oct 11, 2019 9:10:04 GMT -5
So who would you guys like to see as the HC instead? Who could elevate Jones, SB, Evan, etc. to the next level and have us in the playoffs more frequently? Oh And force a qb that wsd picked 6th by said coach people want fired because he was the perfect fit for his system to be forced into another system he might not be good in Good QBs fit in any system. Pat Shurmur is 17-37 as a HC. Clearly his “system” doesn’t work when he has to oversee a team,
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2019 9:16:22 GMT -5
I smell flatulence from the useless troll
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Post by Dogecoin on Oct 11, 2019 9:25:31 GMT -5
Oh And force a qb that wsd picked 6th by said coach people want fired because he was the perfect fit for his system to be forced into another system he might not be good in Good QBs fit in any system. Pat Shurmur is 17-37 as a HC. Clearly his “system” doesn’t work when he has to oversee a team, yeah really sticking with a losing system for the sake of continuity is ridiculous
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Post by BlueReign on Oct 11, 2019 9:26:44 GMT -5
I didn't understand that screen pass to Hilliman on 3rd down. That was a head scratcher.
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