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Post by gmen21 on Sept 27, 2020 15:52:23 GMT -5
Good points. But you have to wonder if Judge was the right hire. Thats not a good feeling. Judge talks a big tough guy game, that's his fault for not backing it up so far. I don't really take anything he says as talking a tough game though. He seems like a genuine guy to me. I think that the problem is the same problem we've had since 20 whenever...bad roster building. Nothing else to point to. And so think even when individual players have ability they seem worst because the roster can't be built correctly. And what's worse is, there's no argument DG is any better at this than 2nd half of his career Reese. He's not. That's fair enough. The O-line is pure trash and that's definitely DG. I personally am not feeling the whole Judge hire though. He definitely does talk a big game and he hasn't backed it up at all. We just got smoked and he was out coached. |
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 27, 2020 16:48:02 GMT -5
I've been looking for improvement and fewer mistakes. Not seeing either.
One of the most annoying plays for me today was the third and 22 where we gave them a first down on a dumb holding call. This is what looser teams do.
No improvement running the ball. No improvement for the QB. Receivers wide open for big gains.
Every good play seemingly reversed by a bad one.
Turned it off at 23 - 9. Seeing what happened, glad I did.
And to think I was scoffing at a 49-6 prediction. Wasn't far off.
Sad...
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 27, 2020 16:57:08 GMT -5
I think its to early. However, today was about as bad as it can get. I'm personally giving Judge till next season before I start to draw conclusions, but I certainly understand the heat he's going to get if this continues. I do have a good feeling about him though. I think he will get the full 3 years but he has to coach these guys and on the broadcast they said in his interview he told them this won't be flipped over night and he is committed to building the right way no short cuts. so if they are in position wile want his own QB. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 27, 2020 17:00:12 GMT -5
I don't really take anything he says as talking a tough game though. He seems like a genuine guy to me. I think that the problem is the same problem we've had since 20 whenever...bad roster building. Nothing else to point to. And so think even when individual players have ability they seem worst because the roster can't be built correctly. And what's worse is, there's no argument DG is any better at this than 2nd half of his career Reese. He's not. That's fair enough. The O-line is pure trash and that's definitely DG. I personally am not feeling the whole Judge hire though. He definitely does talk a big game and he hasn't backed it up at all. We just got smoked and he was out coached. The OL was never gonna be ready with 3 new starters and no offseason vet Ols thrown together take 6 to 8 games. That said DG doesn't get a pass if this team plays this season like today he is gone . |
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 27, 2020 17:00:36 GMT -5
We are getting worse every week
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 27, 2020 17:06:04 GMT -5
Another stat from the game. The niners didn't punt all game...😲
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 27, 2020 17:10:18 GMT -5
The queen of WHITE hot takes hates Judge for not football reasons.. The same narrative.he has with every bullshit WHITE hot take he spews about certain players and now coaches If it quacks like a duck Quack Quack |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 27, 2020 17:13:44 GMT -5
We are getting worse every week A little better last week, and then a complete no show today. But Jones has regressed each week. |
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Post by southerner on Sept 27, 2020 17:15:00 GMT -5
Joe Judge reminds me of the High School football coach who screams all the platitudes but is lost in the game itself.....he be history in February.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 27, 2020 17:16:09 GMT -5
Name one coach that would win with this roster. Our roster is not up to speed. The team itself is just boring and lame. Anyways, It is way too early to know about Judge. I still like the hire, but people were definitely putting him on a pedestal after a lot of lip service. People were also premature in calling him a genius when he reportedly made players run laps after making mistakes in practice.
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Post by TEM on Sept 27, 2020 17:18:37 GMT -5
I'm giving Judge a fair chance here: no way I'll say he's a failure after 3 games. I agree but we need to start seeing it on the field . Banks was hard on the D during the post game . He also said it is impossible to win in the NFL if you cannot score at least 20 points ( at the low end). We have yet to do that . That is the sign of a poor game planing. With all the other problems That is the most concerning aspect of this team. That is the coaching staff's fault. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 27, 2020 17:19:07 GMT -5
Name one coach that would win with this roster. Our roster is not up to speed. The team itself is just boring and lame. Anyways, It is way too early to know about Judge. I still like the hire, but people were definitely putting him on a pedestal after a lot of lip service. People were also premature in calling him a genius when he reportedly made players run laps after making mistakes in practice. Shurmur got better play with a rookie QB and a significantly worse roster. Name one good thing you've seen so far from this coaching staff besides talk? |
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Post by southerner on Sept 27, 2020 17:20:01 GMT -5
Name one coach that would win with this roster. Our roster is not up to speed. The team itself is just boring and lame. Anyways, It is way too early to know about Judge. I still like the hire, but people were definitely putting him on a pedestal after a lot of lip service. People were also premature in calling him a genius when he reportedly made players run laps after making mistakes in practice. Heck, Shurmur did much better with this roster than Judge is doing. This team cannot score at all....they are horrid on offense. They are MUCH worse on offense than they were just last year. Judge has to go and Mara knows that now. |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 27, 2020 17:22:02 GMT -5
Name one coach that would win with this roster. Our roster is not up to speed. The team itself is just boring and lame. Anyways, It is way too early to know about Judge. I still like the hire, but people were definitely putting him on a pedestal after a lot of lip service. People were also premature in calling him a genius when he reportedly made players run laps after making mistakes in practice. Shurmur got better play with a rookie QB and a significantly worse roster. Name one good thing you've seen so far from this coaching staff besides talk? So far, not a damn thing. 3 games doesn't give people a fair assessment of a coaching staff, but 3 years certainly gives you a fair assessment of a front office. |
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Post by grapenut on Sept 27, 2020 17:22:22 GMT -5
Judge would make a great snake oil salesman.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 27, 2020 17:23:17 GMT -5
Name one coach that would win with this roster. Our roster is not up to speed. The team itself is just boring and lame. Anyways, It is way too early to know about Judge. I still like the hire, but people were definitely putting him on a pedestal after a lot of lip service. People were also premature in calling him a genius when he reportedly made players run laps after making mistakes in practice. Heck, Shurmur did much better with this roster than Judge is doing. This team cannot score at all....they are horrid on offense. They are MUCH worse on offense than they were just last year. Judge has to go and Mara knows that now. How many wins did the Giants have with Shurmur here? |
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Post by gmen21 on Sept 27, 2020 17:24:04 GMT -5
That's fair enough. The O-line is pure trash and that's definitely DG. I personally am not feeling the whole Judge hire though. He definitely does talk a big game and he hasn't backed it up at all. We just got smoked and he was out coached. The OL was never gonna be ready with 3 new starters and no offseason vet Ols thrown together take 6 to 8 games. That said DG doesn't get a pass if this team plays this season like today he is gone . Yeah man. Today was pathetic. Just like the last 3 years. |
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 27, 2020 17:25:29 GMT -5
Joe Judge reminds me of the High School football coach who screams all the platitudes but is lost in the game itself.....he be history in February. Should , have hired Steve Belichick. Then maybe Bill would follow him as GM |
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Post by gmen21 on Sept 27, 2020 17:25:30 GMT -5
Judge would make a great snake oil salesman. A special teams coach, goes to HC at 38 years old. Yeah, I’d say he’s a snake oil salesman. |
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Post by imgrate on Sept 27, 2020 17:30:32 GMT -5
Here's some things that I think we can actually judge about him throughout the season.
-Time management
-Any improvement in players from previous years
-Command of the locker room (are players showing up late? Practicing/playing hard? Airing grievances to the media?)
I'm sure theres tons of other stuff but thats what comes to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 17:36:00 GMT -5
I believe in him for the long haul but the glaring truth of this team to me is we an extremely weak roster on both sides of the ball.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 27, 2020 19:20:09 GMT -5
We are getting worse every week to have a team so injured just handle us was embarrassing. |
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Post by jaymas on Sept 27, 2020 19:25:09 GMT -5
I legitimately don't know how we're going to move the ball. The oline can't run block at all. They pass block only moderately better. The only dynamic talent on offense tore his ACL, and the only other player with even the capability to be dynamic, Evan Engram, gets more disappointing every week.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 27, 2020 19:28:20 GMT -5
Judge would make a great snake oil salesman. likes the team mentality. we have players on the team (referring to depth) needs to look at the tape. |
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 27, 2020 19:43:25 GMT -5
Judge would make a great snake oil salesman. A special teams coach, goes to HC at 38 years old. Yeah, I’d say he’s a snake oil salesman. its too big of a job for a rookie HC, Mara needed to land us an experienced guy. this is the ny football giants. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 27, 2020 19:53:30 GMT -5
I can't Judge him right now because his Roster Sucks! We lack Talent especially on Offense im not so sure we lack talent. we have guys that should be doing better than they are. Defense has shown some improvement, but they dont play a full game imo. We do not have any explosive athletes at the skill positions only Barkley and Engram good offenses are at least 3 deep at WR and more so 4 or 5 deep. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 27, 2020 19:55:56 GMT -5
I believe in him for the long haul but the glaring truth of this team to me is we an extremely weak roster on both sides of the ball. I don't think the offense even when Shep is healthy has enough explosive play makers the defense if they can start getting off the field more won't run out of gas in the late 3rd early 4th QT. |
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Post by gmen21 on Sept 27, 2020 20:07:33 GMT -5
Judge would make a great snake oil salesman. likes the team mentality. we have players on the team (referring to depth) needs to look at the tape. Same old BS |
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Post by jaymas on Sept 27, 2020 20:48:51 GMT -5
likes the team mentality. we have players on the team (referring to depth)  needs to look at the tape.  Same old BS What do you want him to say honestly? He wasn't uncomfortable up there, defensive like Mac or Shurmur. He was honest up front,saving specific game analysis for later. Everything needed to be a lot better today. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 27, 2020 20:50:17 GMT -5
Another stat from the game. The niners didn't punt all game...😲 We only punted once. |
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