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Post by jmike on Jan 9, 2021 13:36:54 GMT -5
So if Lawrence, Sewell, Parsons, Smith, Chase, Waddle, Rousseau, Surtain, Pitts and Farley go in the first 10, you would take Mac Jones for the Giants? No I would not take Mac Jones or any QB, including Lawrence. I understand the object was to name 11 players we would want for our team but I really don't see the point of naming 11 players and leaving obvious names off the list like Lawrence and another QB. The point is to see which 11 players in this draft you think will best meet the needs of this team going forward. If a player is not one of those 11, they should not be on that list of 11 players that you think will best meet the needs of this team going forward. If I asked which are the best 11 players in this draft, then they should be on it, but it isn't what I asked. Or at least that wasn't what I intended to ask. For me, Lawrence would be on that list, but he would be the only QB on the list.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 9, 2021 14:33:05 GMT -5
No I would not take Mac Jones or any QB, including Lawrence. I understand the object was to name 11 players we would want for our team but I really don't see the point of naming 11 players and leaving obvious names off the list like Lawrence and another QB. The point is to see which 11 players in this draft you think will best meet the needs of this team going forward. If a player is not one of those 11, they should not be on that list of 11 players that you think will best meet the needs of this team going forward. If I asked which are the best 11 players in this draft, then they should be on it, but it isn't what I asked. Or at least that wasn't what I intended to ask. For me, Lawrence would be on that list, but he would be the only QB on the list. No I get it. The number 11 was picked because we pick there. If I think two QBs will be gone in the first 10 picks do I really need to find 11 guys though? 9 will do. One of those 9 will be there. I'm a rule breaker what can I say?
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Post by jmike on Jan 9, 2021 15:51:46 GMT -5
The point is to see which 11 players in this draft you think will best meet the needs of this team going forward. If a player is not one of those 11, they should not be on that list of 11 players that you think will best meet the needs of this team going forward. If I asked which are the best 11 players in this draft, then they should be on it, but it isn't what I asked. Or at least that wasn't what I intended to ask. For me, Lawrence would be on that list, but he would be the only QB on the list. No I get it. The number 11 was picked because we pick there. If I think two QBs will be gone in the first 10 picks do I really need to find 11 guys though? 9 will do. One of those 9 will be there. I'm a rule breaker what can I say? Fine, then give me your top 15. I picked 11 because I figured more than one of those 11 would be there at 11. Your thinking is how or front office ended up selecting Cedric Jones btw.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 9, 2021 16:07:02 GMT -5
Fine, then give me your top 15. I picked 11 because I figured more than one of those 11 would be there at 11. Your thinking is how or front office ended up selecting Cedric Jones btw. No Cedric Jones was picked because that was who Dan Reeves wanted. The scouts had Rice rated higher but Reeves wanted Jones > Rice. The other four players on their board were taken so they had to go with Reeves guy (yes I read the story too). Had Reeves fell in Ray Lewis or Regan Upshaw they would have been the pick.
One of the 9 non-QBs I named will be there. If I were in the Giants organization I would obviously look for more guys. I would evaluate all of the players, not just four. I mean we do have a second round pick right? I'm good with my 9. As time goes on I'm sure I can add a name or two or four to the list. For now I'll stick with them.
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Post by jmike on Jan 11, 2021 10:05:43 GMT -5
Fine, then give me your top 15. I picked 11 because I figured more than one of those 11 would be there at 11. Your thinking is how or front office ended up selecting Cedric Jones btw. No Cedric Jones was picked because that was who Dan Reeves wanted. The scouts had Rice rated higher but Reeves wanted Jones > Rice. The other four players on their board were taken so they had to go with Reeves guy (yes I read the story too). Had Reeves fell in Ray Lewis or Regan Upshaw they would have been the pick.
One of the 9 non-QBs I named will be there. If I were in the Giants organization I would obviously look for more guys. I would evaluate all of the players, not just four. I mean we do have a second round pick right? I'm good with my 9. As time goes on I'm sure I can add a name or two or four to the list. For now I'll stick with them.
Fine, stick with whatever you want, but you didn't answer my question and ignored the entire point of it. Not that it matters to you, but I did this to gain some information and you didn't provide it.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 11, 2021 10:48:54 GMT -5
Fine, stick with whatever you want, but you didn't answer my question and ignored the entire point of it. Not that it matters to you, but I did this to gain some information and you didn't provide it. Didn't know you were working on a research project. I would hate to skew your numbers so I will adjust to meet your needs.
Sewell Micah Parsons DeVonta Smith Ja'Marr Chase Jaylen Waddle Gregary Rousseau Partrick Surtain Kyle Pitts Caleb Farley Asaunte Samuel Jr. Tarrace Marshall Jr.
Wanted to put Freiere TE from PSU but we need a WR so bad. I think Freeirere is going to be a beast though.
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Post by jmike on Jan 11, 2021 12:18:26 GMT -5
Fine, stick with whatever you want, but you didn't answer my question and ignored the entire point of it. Not that it matters to you, but I did this to gain some information and you didn't provide it. Didn't know you were working on a research project. I would hate to skew your numbers so I will adjust to meet your needs.
Sewell Micah Parsons DeVonta Smith Ja'Marr Chase Jaylen Waddle Gregary Rousseau Partrick Surtain Kyle Pitts Caleb Farley Asaunte Samuel Jr. Tarrace Marshall Jr.
Wanted to put Freiere TE from PSU but we need a WR so bad. I think Freeirere is going to be a beast though.
Thank you. Yes, I'm a big fan of him also.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 11, 2021 14:30:47 GMT -5
Didn't know you were working on a research project. I would hate to skew your numbers so I will adjust to meet your needs.
Sewell Micah Parsons DeVonta Smith Ja'Marr Chase Jaylen Waddle Gregary Rousseau Partrick Surtain Kyle Pitts Caleb Farley Asaunte Samuel Jr. Tarrace Marshall Jr.
Wanted to put Freiere TE from PSU but we need a WR so bad. I think Freeirere is going to be a beast though.
Thank you. Yes, I'm a big fan of him also. My hopes are a top 3 WR and then Freiermuth in round 2.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 11, 2021 21:55:34 GMT -5
Thank you. Yes, I'm a big fan of him also. My hopes are a top 3 WR and then Freiermuth in round 2. I expect that one will be there for us there is some serious top 10 talent at QB some OL and and CB LB talent.
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