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Post by nick030567 on Jul 25, 2021 0:01:51 GMT -5
I thought the vaccine only reduces symptoms?? Thus the continued mask use. So, why?? Sounds like it isn't proven to do much in all reality. I mean, it wasn't even given proper safety studies like all the other vaccines on the market(for other diseases). Likewise, it seems there is a lot of miscommunication and interpretations on what this "vaccine" actually does. Does it make you immune? Or is it a symptom suppressor? Because the two can be distinctly different. One thing I do know is that moderna and Pfizer are forms of gene therapy and not vaccination.. so whatever that means we have no idea because it's the first of it's kind mRNA vaccine
Also, is it just totally fine if a VACCINATED person gets infected and causes the outbreak? Or is it okay because he followed the mainstream belief system on covid??
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 25, 2021 6:52:10 GMT -5
I thought the vaccine only reduces symptoms?? Thus the continued mask use. So, why?? Sounds like it isn't proven to do much in all reality. I mean, it wasn't even given proper safety studies like all the other vaccines on the market(for other diseases). Likewise, it seems there is a lot of miscommunication and interpretations on what this "vaccine" actually does. Does it make you immune? Or is it a symptom suppressor? Because the two can be distinctly different. One thing I do know is that moderna and Pfizer are forms of gene therapy and not vaccination.. so whatever that means we have no idea because it's the first of it's kind mRNA vaccine Also, is it just totally fine if a VACCINATED person gets infected and causes the outbreak? Or is it okay because he followed the mainstream belief system on covid?? There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. |
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Post by nick030567 on Jul 25, 2021 13:06:18 GMT -5
I thought the vaccine only reduces symptoms?? Thus the continued mask use. So, why?? Sounds like it isn't proven to do much in all reality. I mean, it wasn't even given proper safety studies like all the other vaccines on the market(for other diseases). Likewise, it seems there is a lot of miscommunication and interpretations on what this "vaccine" actually does. Does it make you immune? Or is it a symptom suppressor? Because the two can be distinctly different. One thing I do know is that moderna and Pfizer are forms of gene therapy and not vaccination.. so whatever that means we have no idea because it's the first of it's kind mRNA vaccine Also, is it just totally fine if a VACCINATED person gets infected and causes the outbreak? Or is it okay because he followed the mainstream belief system on covid?? There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. |
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Post by nick030567 on Jul 25, 2021 13:08:41 GMT -5
I thought the vaccine only reduces symptoms?? Thus the continued mask use. So, why?? Sounds like it isn't proven to do much in all reality. I mean, it wasn't even given proper safety studies like all the other vaccines on the market(for other diseases). Likewise, it seems there is a lot of miscommunication and interpretations on what this "vaccine" actually does. Does it make you immune? Or is it a symptom suppressor? Because the two can be distinctly different. One thing I do know is that moderna and Pfizer are forms of gene therapy and not vaccination.. so whatever that means we have no idea because it's the first of it's kind mRNA vaccine Also, is it just totally fine if a VACCINATED person gets infected and causes the outbreak? Or is it okay because he followed the mainstream belief system on covid?? There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. Not true at all. All you have to do is watch the news and read articles online (even on mainstream left wing sites) for evidence to the contrary. This article was originally on mercola but now they want you to subscribe, so found it on another site www.wakingtimes.com/how-covid-19-vaccine-trials-are-rigged/And by the way. That's when they started recommending TWO masks, when they claimed the vaccines only reduce symptoms, not acquired immunity. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 25, 2021 19:05:58 GMT -5
I thought the vaccine only reduces symptoms?? Thus the continued mask use. So, why?? Sounds like it isn't proven to do much in all reality. I mean, it wasn't even given proper safety studies like all the other vaccines on the market(for other diseases). Likewise, it seems there is a lot of miscommunication and interpretations on what this "vaccine" actually does. Does it make you immune? Or is it a symptom suppressor? Because the two can be distinctly different. One thing I do know is that moderna and Pfizer are forms of gene therapy and not vaccination.. so whatever that means we have no idea because it's the first of it's kind mRNA vaccine Also, is it just totally fine if a VACCINATED person gets infected and causes the outbreak? Or is it okay because he followed the mainstream belief system on covid?? There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. Over 90% effective in NOT getting covid? How so? I'm interested to know how they got these numbers and from what study. I've been informed the vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only helps you defeat the severity of the virus. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 25, 2021 19:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 25, 2021 21:14:32 GMT -5
There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. Not true at all. All you have to do is watch the news and read articles online (even on mainstream left wing sites) for evidence to the contrary. This article was originally on mercola but now they want you to subscribe, so found it on another site www.wakingtimes.com/how-covid-19-vaccine-trials-are-rigged/And by the way. That's when they started recommending TWO masks, when they claimed the vaccines only reduce symptoms, not acquired immunity. For God’s sake dude. Jeez |
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 26, 2021 5:09:12 GMT -5
There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. Over 90% effective in NOT getting covid? How so? I'm interested to know how they got these numbers and from what study. I've been informed the vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only helps you defeat the severity of the virus. Well then you’ve been misinformed. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 26, 2021 5:57:58 GMT -5
Over 90% effective in NOT getting covid? How so? I'm interested to know how they got these numbers and from what study. I've been informed the vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only helps you defeat the severity of the virus. Well then you’ve been misinformed. Compelling rebuttal. To be fair, there is no doubt we are all misinformed to a degree. |
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Post by nick030567 on Jul 26, 2021 9:43:38 GMT -5
Not true at all. All you have to do is watch the news and read articles online (even on mainstream left wing sites) for evidence to the contrary. This article was originally on mercola but now they want you to subscribe, so found it on another site www.wakingtimes.com/how-covid-19-vaccine-trials-are-rigged/And by the way. That's when they started recommending TWO masks, when they claimed the vaccines only reduce symptoms, not acquired immunity. For God’s sake dude. Jeez Did you actually READ the article or did you just look at the headline and get triggered because you want to believe such a thing isn't possible?? Do you people have any understanding how fast these vaccines were produced compared to everything other vaccine any of us have ever gotten?? And it's with experimental technology that hasn't been able to get FDA approval (moderna). Lol there's not a single thing wrong or incorrect about what I said. I have read their articles and heard them say these very things on MSNBC, FOX, and CNN. So Idk why you speaketh the lordeths nameth in exasperation lol? Don't you Remember??? Fauci said even if you're vaccinated you should still wear a mask..this is back when the vaccines were very first released. Way before his new "delta strain" narrative. He then said that it was even better to wear 2. He said that the vaccine only reduces symptoms and that you'd need booster shots in the future. Multiple other big pharma puppets then said the same thing. As did other so called "experts". Then they went on to assume that "anti-maskers" were responsible for the "rise"in cases despite all of the case numbers and deaths going down (according to government stats). I don't get why any of you people even watch mainstream news anymore, I just watch it to see how much they're manipulating all of you for the benefit of their sponsors lol. They literally just lie all day long.. But anyway, that doctor in that article I sent literally said (back Oct 2020) that the trials were only made to show a reduction in symptoms and we're not being done to prove immunity....Thus all of this BS where they're gonna unilaterally and arbitrarily blame unvaccinated player/people is totally immoral and wrong.... |
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Post by nick030567 on Jul 26, 2021 9:44:30 GMT -5
Over 90% effective in NOT getting covid? How so? I'm interested to know how they got these numbers and from what study. I've been informed the vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only helps you defeat the severity of the virus. Well then you’ve been misinformed. No you just aren't following the propaganda closely enough. I know it's hard. They tell you folk something different every week. One week you're immune, the next it only reduces symptoms and you gotta wear 2 masks outside lol |
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 26, 2021 10:58:21 GMT -5
This whole thing has just pulled back the curtain on how many loons there are living among us. Truly stunning.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 26, 2021 12:07:27 GMT -5
This whole thing has just pulled back the curtain on how many loons there are living among us. Truly stunning. I guess its the loons vs the sheep. By the way, all I was asking you is where you get the data to support saying that the vaccine is over 90% effective against GETTING the virus. I have not seen that anywhere. Hardly misinformed. Everything I read talks about the high percentage of keeping people out of hospitals and severity of the symptoms, which I am in agreement with. The vaccine works in that aspect very well. |
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Post by nyg2 on Jul 26, 2021 13:21:00 GMT -5
There is no miscommunication about the efficacy of the vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna are over 90 percent effective in preventing recipients from getting the virus and even a higher percentage effective in preventing serious results from getting the virus. That has been reported from the beginning and none of the data reported to date has been inconsistent with those reports. Not true at all. All you have to do is watch the news and read articles online (even on mainstream left wing sites) for evidence to the contrary. This article was originally on mercola but now they want you to subscribe, so found it on another site www.wakingtimes.com/how-covid-19-vaccine-trials-are-rigged/And by the way. That's when they started recommending TWO masks, when they claimed the vaccines only reduce symptoms, not acquired immunity. You're free to believe whatever you want, but I'll just say this regarding the doctor that wrote the article that you're citing. A quick google search on "Dr. Joseph Mercola" and you'll find this: “Joseph Mercola is a successful anti-vaccine entrepreneur, peddling dietary supplements and false cures as alternatives to vaccines” - CCDH
"In 2016, Mercola agreed to pay as much as $5.3 million in customer refunds to settle a complaint by federal regulators that he made false claims about the health benefits and safety of tanning beds he sold." - The New Yorker"He also began promoting vitamin supplements as a way to ward off the coronavirus. In a warning letter on Feb. 18, the F.D.A. said Dr. Mercola had “misleadingly represented” what were “unapproved and misbranded products” on Mercola.com as established Covid-19 treatments." - NY Times
The guy is 21st century snake oil salesman. Again, you're free to believe in what he said, but I felt like you should know about the person you're citing. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 26, 2021 15:34:09 GMT -5
Colts coach Frank Reich tests positive, while fully vaccinated.
Since they are going to be testing more and more, you will see more and more positives, not just from unvaccinated, but probably most asymptomatic.
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Post by nick030567 on Jul 26, 2021 17:15:14 GMT -5
Not true at all. All you have to do is watch the news and read articles online (even on mainstream left wing sites) for evidence to the contrary. This article was originally on mercola but now they want you to subscribe, so found it on another site www.wakingtimes.com/how-covid-19-vaccine-trials-are-rigged/And by the way. That's when they started recommending TWO masks, when they claimed the vaccines only reduce symptoms, not acquired immunity. You're free to believe whatever you want, but I'll just say this regarding the doctor that wrote the article that you're citing. A quick google search on "Dr. Joseph Mercola" and you'll find this: “Joseph Mercola is a successful anti-vaccine entrepreneur, peddling dietary supplements and false cures as alternatives to vaccines” - CCDH
"In 2016, Mercola agreed to pay as much as $5.3 million in customer refunds to settle a complaint by federal regulators that he made false claims about the health benefits and safety of tanning beds he sold." - The New Yorker"He also began promoting vitamin supplements as a way to ward off the coronavirus. In a warning letter on Feb. 18, the F.D.A. said Dr. Mercola had “misleadingly represented” what were “unapproved and misbranded products” on Mercola.com as established Covid-19 treatments." - NY Times
The guy is 21st century snake oil salesman. Again, you're free to believe in what he said, but I felt like you should know about the person you're citing. Okay, so the information he shares is usually spot on. I'm not some mercola cult follower. I've done years.of my own research and went to college for biochemistry on top of that. Mercola's sote.os.for sharing other people's information. They share and write articles.to generate traffic.... Anyone who thinks any tanning bed is safe should do more research lol If you don't think organic vitamins are essential to the immune system then you're lost man. Come on.. Think of the body as a form of technology. It's biological, electrochemical and vibrational. Thus you need to properly feed that biology with compatible biological technology (plants, organic things from the earth). It's as simple as that. You need to feed your immune system the bacteria, enzymes, minerals and vitamins it needs to thrive and regulate the body properly. If you constantly feed it toxins, you're gonna have a shitty immune system. And sadly, the majority.of the food supply in the US is filled with toxins Multiple studies from government stats show that vitamins helped the body fight corona. Because you're given the self healing mechanism what it needs I've cured multiple health problems of my own (and other family members) including my terrible allergies, just by doing my own research and finding what worked best for my body. I literally only shared mercola because he's mainstream lol I mean should I bring up Fauci's shady background?? The fact that Bill Gates comes from a line of eugenicists?? All things that are totally verifiable as well?? Just merely sharing the info. The actual info and research had zero to do with Dr.Mercola. It was actually referencing a Dr.Haseltine You're basically using a straw-man argument to delegitimize the info without actually processing it lol |
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Post by robl on Jul 26, 2021 18:07:15 GMT -5
You're free to believe whatever you want, but I'll just say this regarding the doctor that wrote the article that you're citing. A quick google search on "Dr. Joseph Mercola" and you'll find this: “Joseph Mercola is a successful anti-vaccine entrepreneur, peddling dietary supplements and false cures as alternatives to vaccines” - CCDH
"In 2016, Mercola agreed to pay as much as $5.3 million in customer refunds to settle a complaint by federal regulators that he made false claims about the health benefits and safety of tanning beds he sold." - The New Yorker"He also began promoting vitamin supplements as a way to ward off the coronavirus. In a warning letter on Feb. 18, the F.D.A. said Dr. Mercola had “misleadingly represented” what were “unapproved and misbranded products” on Mercola.com as established Covid-19 treatments." - NY Times
The guy is 21st century snake oil salesman. Again, you're free to believe in what he said, but I felt like you should know about the person you're citing. Okay, so the information he shares is usually spot on. I'm not some mercola cult follower. I've done years.of my own research and went to college for biochemistry on top of that. Mercola's sote.os.for sharing other people's information. They share and write articles.to generate traffic.... Anyone who thinks any tanning bed is safe should do more research lol If you don't think organic vitamins are essential to the immune system then you're lost man. Come on.. Think of the body as a form of technology. It's biological, electrochemical and vibrational. Thus you need to properly feed that biology with compatible biological technology (plants, organic things from the earth). It's as simple as that. You need to feed your immune system the bacteria, enzymes, minerals and vitamins it needs to thrive and regulate the body properly. If you constantly feed it toxins, you're gonna have a shitty immune system. And sadly, the majority.of the food supply in the US is filled with toxins Multiple studies from government stats show that vitamins helped the body fight corona. Because you're given the self healing mechanism what it needs I've cured multiple health problems of my own (and other family members) including my terrible allergies, just by doing my own research and finding what worked best for my body. I literally only shared mercola because he's mainstream lol I mean should I bring up Fauci's shady background?? The fact that Bill Gates comes from a line of eugenicists?? All things that are totally verifiable as well?? Just merely sharing the info. The actual info and research had zero to do with Dr.Mercola. It was actually referencing a Dr.Haseltine You're basically using a straw-man argument to delegitimize the info without actually processing it lol Except that Dr. Haseltine is strongly in favor of vaccination: |
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Post by nick030567 on Jul 26, 2021 20:00:36 GMT -5
Okay, so the information he shares is usually spot on. I'm not some mercola cult follower. I've done years.of my own research and went to college for biochemistry on top of that. Mercola's sote.os.for sharing other people's information. They share and write articles.to generate traffic.... Anyone who thinks any tanning bed is safe should do more research lol If you don't think organic vitamins are essential to the immune system then you're lost man. Come on.. Think of the body as a form of technology. It's biological, electrochemical and vibrational. Thus you need to properly feed that biology with compatible biological technology (plants, organic things from the earth). It's as simple as that. You need to feed your immune system the bacteria, enzymes, minerals and vitamins it needs to thrive and regulate the body properly. If you constantly feed it toxins, you're gonna have a shitty immune system. And sadly, the majority.of the food supply in the US is filled with toxins Multiple studies from government stats show that vitamins helped the body fight corona. Because you're given the self healing mechanism what it needs I've cured multiple health problems of my own (and other family members) including my terrible allergies, just by doing my own research and finding what worked best for my body. I literally only shared mercola because he's mainstream lol I mean should I bring up Fauci's shady background?? The fact that Bill Gates comes from a line of eugenicists?? All things that are totally verifiable as well?? Just merely sharing the info. The actual info and research had zero to do with Dr.Mercola. It was actually referencing a Dr.Haseltine You're basically using a straw-man argument to delegitimize the info without actually processing it lol Except that Dr. Haseltine is strongly in favor of vaccination: Still aren't addressing anything in the article or what I stated |
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Post by robl on Jul 26, 2021 20:18:34 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 27, 2021 17:07:39 GMT -5
Over 90% effective in NOT getting covid? How so? I'm interested to know how they got these numbers and from what study. I've been informed the vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only helps you defeat the severity of the virus. Well then you’ve been misinformed. TC, the CDC just said today nearly verbatim what I said. Vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only defeats the severity of the virus. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 27, 2021 17:39:34 GMT -5
Well then you’ve been misinformed. TC, the CDC just said today nearly verbatim what I said. Vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only defeats the severity of the virus. Link? |
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Post by 3days on Jul 27, 2021 18:58:00 GMT -5
Good, I am glad people are finally kicking these dummies who won’t get the vaccine in the ass. I hope every day to see more and more restrictions for the reckless. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 27, 2021 19:16:01 GMT -5
Good, I am glad people are finally kicking these dummies who won’t get the vaccine in the ass. I hope every day to see more and more restrictions for the reckless. There are plenty in the White House too, where it's not mandatory. A place trying to convince its people to take it. I think they should take it right now though. 6 months later it appears to be mostly safe and effective. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 27, 2021 19:33:31 GMT -5
TC, the CDC just said today nearly verbatim what I said. Vaccines do NOT stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Only defeats the severity of the virus. Link? Hello? Waiting for the CDC link …. |
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Post by 3days on Jul 27, 2021 19:34:05 GMT -5
Good, I am glad people are finally kicking these dummies who won’t get the vaccine in the ass. I hope every day to see more and more restrictions for the reckless. There are plenty in the White House too, where it's not mandatory. A place trying to convince its people to take it. I think they should take it right now though. 6 months later it appears to be mostly safe and effective. I am very glad to see new federal guidelines come out. I hope they lead by example in the white house. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 27, 2021 19:43:06 GMT -5
Hello? Waiting for the CDC link …. My bad I forgot. Deli kept me busy on the other thread. It was on sirius radio earlier today. I'll try to find the audio. It was the CDC director lady though in her updated guidance speech today. Honestly, I just want this crap to end before football season, but it doesn't appear to be happening. |
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Post by nyg2 on Jul 28, 2021 10:16:12 GMT -5
TJ ward thinks getting cancer is a choice and Ron Rivera should just retire.
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Post by 3days on Jul 28, 2021 12:35:16 GMT -5
There are plenty in the White House too, where it's not mandatory. A place trying to convince its people to take it. I think they should take it right now though. 6 months later it appears to be mostly safe and effective. I am very glad to see new federal guidelines come out. I hope they lead by example in the white house. Just read, staff at the White House is required to wear a mask. Good to see them lead by example ….I guess I will just leave it there  |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 30, 2021 10:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 30, 2021 10:33:04 GMT -5
I am very glad to see new federal guidelines come out. I hope they lead by example in the white house. Just read, staff at the White House is required to wear a mask. Good to see them lead by example ….I guess I will just leave it there Yes I'm sure they'll overreact by example. |
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