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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 11:30:28 GMT -5
Would Chase young be the best defensive player on the Giants?? So we win one more game possibly? He hasn't been the 2nd coming of LT like many have thought. You don't purposely lose for a draft pick I have no problem with not losing for a pick but I do have one when the record of a terrible team is brought up as if that player has enough control over it. Using this analogy then Jones and Barkley have been terrible choices since the team hasn't won much with them.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 20, 2021 11:30:33 GMT -5
True & the Giants vs Bears game late in the season is a win-win game for the Giants. No matter the outcome the Giants still win because either draft pick will look better. I'm pulling for a tie That could be interesting |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 20, 2021 11:32:16 GMT -5
So we win one more game possibly? He hasn't been the 2nd coming of LT like many have thought. You don't purposely lose for a draft pick I have no problem with not losing for a pick but I do have one when the record of a terrible team is brought up as if that player has enough control over it. Using this analogy then Jones and Barkley have been terrible choices since the team hasn't won much with them.. Because one or even 2 players won't make that much of a difference if the entire operation is rotten from the top all the way down to tbe bottom end players |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 11:37:32 GMT -5
I have no problem with not losing for a pick but I do have one when the record of a terrible team is brought up as if that player has enough control over it. Using this analogy then Jones and Barkley have been terrible choices since the team hasn't won much with them.. Because one or even 2 players won't make that much of a difference if the entire operation is rotten from the top all the way down to tbe bottom end players Yet you made it seem that young was a bad choice on a team just as dysfunctional as the Giants.. At this point why are any of us still watching and posting if this team is so rotten which I won't dispute.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 20, 2021 11:39:26 GMT -5
Because one or even 2 players won't make that much of a difference if the entire operation is rotten from the top all the way down to tbe bottom end players Yet you made it seem that young was a bad choice on a team just as dysfunctional as the Giants.. At this point why are any of us still watching and posting if this team is so rotten which I won't dispute.. I never insinuated Young was a bad choice My point was losing that game for either team didn't move the meter because both teams still hopelessly suck after both teams took 2 good players |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 11:41:34 GMT -5
Yet you made it seem that young was a bad choice on a team just as dysfunctional as the Giants.. At this point why are any of us still watching and posting if this team is so rotten which I won't dispute.. I never insinuated Young was a bad choice My point was losing that game for either team didn't move the meter because both teams still hopelessly suck after both teams took 2 good players Fair enough and it's such a shame this team is so incompetent.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 20, 2021 11:47:24 GMT -5
I never insinuated Young was a bad choice My point was losing that game for either team didn't move the meter because both teams still hopelessly suck after both teams took 2 good players Fair enough and it's such a shame this team is so incompetent.. Seems we are back at that exact same spot this time 2017 4 years later with no end in sight because it's beyond obvious the real problem is even above the GM ... |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 20, 2021 11:56:27 GMT -5
Dunno, last yr, our rookie LT was the worst LT in football & being called a bust, this yr, cuz the rest of our OL has been decimated by serious injuries, he's standing out a bit but it's still too early to see what we really have in him. This team has been so atrocious the past 5 yrs that whenever a Giants player stands out in a game or 2, we are ready to crown him a stud player. Same thing happened with Toney after the Cowboy game, how bout we wait & see if they can perform like that game in, game out, week after week, & not just after 1 week. Young is a stud & the real deal, had we drafted him, I have to think we have a way better pass rush than we currently have now. With how our entire defense has played/been schemed I can't even project that we would have that much better of a pass rush. Interestingly Washington's defense also has sucked this year with Young not exactly being the dominant player many thought he would beMy point Tanking for a particular player does not guarantee instant team improvement,especially if everything else is rotten Even Josh Allen DE, meh... Two players Giants fans had a stroke about, both can't seem to put it together. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 11:57:36 GMT -5
With how our entire defense has played/been schemed I can't even project that we would have that much better of a pass rush. Interestingly Washington's defense also has sucked this year with Young not exactly being the dominant player many thought he would beMy point Tanking for a particular player does not guarantee instant team improvement,especially if everything else is rotten Even Josh Allen DE, meh... Two players Giants fans had a stroke about, both can't seem to put it together. And either one of them would be the best pass rusher on the team by a mile.. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 20, 2021 15:17:54 GMT -5
Giants are better off losing to Chi for draft status. Or will the "we want the win" crowd chime in like they did a couple yrs a go when they preferred a meaningless win to getting Chase Young. How'd that turn out for us? exactly SMMFH |
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Post by imgrate on Oct 20, 2021 19:02:09 GMT -5
I have no problem with not losing for a pick but I do have one when the record of a terrible team is brought up as if that player has enough control over it. Using this analogy then Jones and Barkley have been terrible choices since the team hasn't won much with them.. Because one or even 2 players won't make that much of a difference if the entire operation is rotten from the top all the way down to tbe bottom end players Yea you can't throw games, it ****s the entire culture. How can a coach or front office guy talk about winning all offseason and regular season and then tell these guys that are working for their livelihood to lose? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 20, 2021 19:02:58 GMT -5
Because one or even 2 players won't make that much of a difference if the entire operation is rotten from the top all the way down to tbe bottom end players Yea you can't throw games, it ****s the entire culture. How can a coach or front office guy talk about winning all offseason and regular season and then tell these guys that are working for their livelihood to lose? How did that work out last year in Philly |
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