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Post by Roosevelt on May 27, 2018 21:06:37 GMT -5
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Post by EliQB10 on May 27, 2018 22:22:24 GMT -5
hmmm...wonder who the star players are?
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Post by Deplorable on May 27, 2018 22:34:13 GMT -5
Reid who? What have I missed, and why are he and Kap entitled to jobs?
I hope those "star players" sit out until they get fired for breach of contract.
The NFL ownership and players seem to be perversely determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. We are witnessing the transformation of a once-great sport into farcical Kabuki Theater. I'm almost (not quite) to the point of erasing the NFL from my life, and I suspect a fair portion of the fan population is starting to consider the same course of action.
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Post by Bigjeep on May 28, 2018 7:28:30 GMT -5
Reid who? What have I missed, and why are he and Kap entitled to jobs? I hope those "star players" sit out until they get fired for breach of contract. The NFL ownership and players seem to be perversely determined to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. We are witnessing the transformation of a once-great sport into farcical Kabuki Theater. I'm almost (not quite) to the point of erasing the NFL from my life, and I suspect a fair portion of the fan population is starting to consider the same course of action. There sure seems to be a death wish in the NFL. Where's Pete Roselle when you need him. The NFL is run by idiots with lots of idiots on the field. The new rules only makes things worse. This could be the end of the NFL gravy train! Thank God for the Yankees and Knicks!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 28, 2018 8:48:35 GMT -5
This is going to far these guys need to be reminded it's a game,and they can be replaced just like Kap and reid nothing is forever or guaranteed,theres a million kids who would love the opportunity good luck sit out I would rather watch guys who understand the gift it is to be blessed to have this chance,and make that kind of money playing a game.
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Post by jjhall91 on May 28, 2018 8:55:05 GMT -5
If things had worked differently and the public had supported the act of kneeling, resulting in more dollars for the NFL, the owners/league would be all in favor of the "right of self expression" and would be praising those involved.
As it stands, they're not. Until the "financial winds" blow the other way, anyone who stands between them (owners) and profit will be at high risk.
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Post by Kruunch on May 28, 2018 8:58:30 GMT -5
Sounds good to me, never come back... UPS is hiring..
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Post by KingCap88 on May 28, 2018 10:22:13 GMT -5
I don't see any star players losing their salary and getting fined over Kap and Reid. It sounds good in theory, but the reality is much different.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 10:43:28 GMT -5
And then I'd love to see them all unemployed right alongside the other two.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on May 28, 2018 11:07:58 GMT -5
Yeah go ahead and forefit your 1/2 million dollar game checks for Kap and Reid. I'll believe that when I see it. You can go ahead and protest someone being blackballed all day, it's not going to change anything. Which team is going to forcibly take him on to overcome this. With this new policy, it's probably a headache teams are interested in even less. Not only that, but before he left the game he was playing like ass. Who want an overrated headache on their roster? Probably nobody I'm guessing. I could care less about his protests as I have mentioned, but he's not a good QB. He'd be good enough to be a backup(and probably a decent one) if he didn't come with all of this baggage.
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Post by alwaysready126 on May 28, 2018 11:36:47 GMT -5
These players better wake up quickly and smell the coffee. They have been able to do no wrong throughout their school careers and they were put up on pedestals their entire life due to the exceptional talent they possess. The thing is though - the reason why that has been the case was because there is a litteral ot of gold at the end of the rainbow awaiting their arrival to the NFL. What they don’t realize is that the pot of gold has been placed there by paying customers and it can be taken away ten times quicker than it took to put there. They have to be careful.
If the league was smart, they would create another venue or forum in which these guys are able to communicate their grievances and explain to the public why they feel kneeling during our national anthem is justified. Because when they claim to be exercising freedom of speech but then just take a knee and don’t explain themselves they look like privileged morons. Their grievances could be justified but if they are, justify them. But you also have to be willing to hear and listen to the other side of the debate as well since if a big part of their problem is that they are not heard, then surely in the spirit of equality and tolerance they should be willing to listen and be open minded to other points of view.
On the other hand, if the league was even smarter, they would just force them all to stand and instruct them to take their grievances elsewhere since 99.9999% of the country is not allowed to use their employer to get their personal viewpoint across to the general public. It’s just that if they feel they need to allow the players the ability to do so, do it away from the purity of the sport.
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Post by TCHOF on May 28, 2018 11:47:50 GMT -5
No way this happens
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Post by Martin on May 28, 2018 12:06:07 GMT -5
I don't see any star players losing their salary and getting fined over Kap and Reid. It sounds good in theory, but the reality is much different. They love to reach for the headlines these big mouths. Once the wallet is close to be effected is when they shut their pie holes. They are no better then the owners (NFL) as money drives the train not civil liberty's or ideology.
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Post by Sarcasman on May 28, 2018 12:23:37 GMT -5
The NFL players to date have been unable to organize and manage themselves into a better collective bargaining agreement mainly because most of them are unable to manage their money such that the union could actually sustain a prolonged work stoppage.
Now they’re going to somehow organize this? It’ll never happen. imo, Reid should be signed because he is a quality player. Kaepernick wasn’t a starter when he left the league and probably isn’t talented enough to ever be one again. So, if you won’t work until he’s signed you will likely never play in the league again. I can’t name one NFL player that I believe would actually do that.
I can’t wait for the Tebow protests to start. Who’s gonna sit out until he gets signed?
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Post by Bigjeep on May 28, 2018 12:39:36 GMT -5
Sounds good to me, never come back... UPS is hiring.. As it should be! popcorn
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Post by Bigjeep on May 28, 2018 12:41:30 GMT -5
The NFL players to date have been unable to organize and manage themselves into a better collective bargaining agreement mainly because most of them are unable to manage their money such that the union could actually sustain a prolonged work stoppage. Now they’re going to somehow organize this? It’ll never happen. imo, Reid should be signed because he is a quality player. Kaepernick wasn’t a starter when he left the league and probably isn’t talented enough to ever be one again. So, if you won’t work until he’s signed you will likely never play in the league again. I can’t name one NFL player that I believe would actually do that. I can’t wait for the Tebow protests to start. Who’s gonna sit out until he gets signed? As it should be in sports! popcorn
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Post by Bigjeep on May 28, 2018 12:44:54 GMT -5
I don't see any star players losing their salary and getting fined over Kap and Reid. It sounds good in theory, but the reality is much different. They love to reach for the headlines these big mouths. Once the wallet is close to be effected is when they shut their pie holes. They are no better then the owners (NFL) as money drives the train not civil liberty's or ideology. My heart bleeds for the players!
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Post by scrimmage on May 28, 2018 13:59:30 GMT -5
The source is Shaun King. Take anything that man says with the tiniest grain of salt.
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Post by Morehead State on May 28, 2018 17:04:09 GMT -5
I'm gunna sit out until Phil gets signed. I still think he can sling it.
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Post by Speedman on May 28, 2018 19:38:18 GMT -5
I'm gunna sit out until Phil gets signed. I still think he can sling it. I heard that the Yankees are looking for someone who can sling it.
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Post by GameTime on May 28, 2018 20:32:16 GMT -5
that would be an incredible show of soledarity and the belief in the original aspect of the protest. If it happens I would aplaude those players for their show of balls.
But it wont happen. Maybe a few but 25%??......wont even be 2 %.
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Post by TCHOF on May 28, 2018 20:56:40 GMT -5
that would be an incredible show of soledarity and the belief in the original aspect of the protest. If it happens I would aplaude those players for their show of balls. But it wont happen. Maybe a few but 25%??......wont even be 2 %. My call: Not a single player will do this
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Post by Speedman on May 28, 2018 22:17:34 GMT -5
that would be an incredible show of soledarity and the belief in the original aspect of the protest. If it happens I would aplaude those players for their show of balls. But it wont happen. Maybe a few but 25%??......wont even be 2 %. My call: Not a single player will do this I agree.
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Post by nick030567 on May 28, 2018 22:31:46 GMT -5
If Kaepernick was as talented as Cam Newton at QB he wouldn't be jobless. He has lived a privileged life since he was a college star athlete and has developed (or always had) an ego of entitlement which is a companion with having zero responsibility for your own actions and the inability to analyze yourself rationally. The guy is an attention seeker who didn't want to deal with the fact that he wasn't good enough to start, instead of putting in the work he wants to be handed a job while playing the identity politics card. You have to earn your way like the rest of us.
I couldn't care less about him actually protesting, I think government intervention is at fault (as usual ) for paying the league to put on phony showcases of patriotism. but the reality is that when you are at a workplace you are on the owners property (although I think they shouldn't be considered private owners as the NFL gets so much gov't subsidy it makes me sick) and thus you must abide by their rules. In another persons house you don't have a right to do whatever you want as property rights are above almost all other rights otherwise there is no concept of liberty, and the same goes when you're at another individuals business.
But with all of that said I never understood why Harbaugh went with Kap over Smith. I knew it would bite them in the ass within a few years. The guy relied on his legs too much instead of his mind and arm. If you can do it all like Aaron Rodgers or even Cam Newton youre golden, but colin was always so overrated. Not always terrible, but just not as good as his media hype. His ego, low level of awareness, sense of entitlement and thus complacency only makes it worse, otherwise he could actually be a really good QB. The guy really has all the tools.
In the age of the internet none of these guys need to use the NFL as their platform, they can do it on their own time through social media like all of the other celebrities who think they're really intelligent because of their popularity. There are so many avenues that this whole thing is just a distraction and a non-issue.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 17:08:14 GMT -5
Kaepernick is one of the worst faces of a “movement” in modern history. Anyone who hitches their horse to his cart will go off the cliff. Any player who wants to make any serious difference on these issues would be wise to stay far away from the entitled and privledged Kaepernick and instead focus on helping those affected by inequality and working to foster the dialogue necessary to improve this whole situation.
Kaepernick is a fool and damaged goods and should be abandoned
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Post by cdngfan on May 29, 2018 22:41:15 GMT -5
i doubt it happens as well, but i don't understand all the vitriol about the mere suggestion that it might or could.
Can someone explain why if a player is willing to make a personal sacrifice for a cause you may not share, the majority reaction is to wish that he's unemployed forever as a result?
I honestly don't get it.
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Post by Sarcasman on May 29, 2018 22:48:39 GMT -5
Kaepernick is one of the worst faces of a “movement” in modern history. Anyone who hitches their horse to his cart will go off the cliff. Any player who wants to make any serious difference on these issues would be wise to stay far away from the entitled and privledged Kaepernick and instead focus on helping those affected by inequality and working to foster the dialogue necessary to improve this whole situation. Kaepernick is a fool and damaged goods and should be abandoned While I believe Kaepernick not playing is really a business issue, the message is always more important than the messenger. There are no perfect messengers.
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Post by cdngfan on May 29, 2018 22:53:03 GMT -5
Kaepernick is one of the worst faces of a “movement” in modern history. Anyone who hitches their horse to his cart will go off the cliff. Any player who wants to make any serious difference on these issues would be wise to stay far away from the entitled and privledged Kaepernick and instead focus on helping those affected by inequality and working to foster the dialogue necessary to improve this whole situation. Kaepernick is a fool and damaged goods and should be abandoned While I believe Kaepernick not playing is really a business issue, the message is always more important than the messenger. There are no perfect messengers. That line from Moneyball always comes to mind as well: "the first guy through the wall always gets bloody"
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Post by ocgiant on May 30, 2018 20:12:42 GMT -5
No "stars" identities were made known just more poorly written meaningless sports diatribe... really trying to reach for something not there.
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Post by ocgiant on May 30, 2018 20:13:05 GMT -5
No "stars" identities were made known just more poorly written meaningless sports diatribe... really trying to reach for something not there.
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