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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 7:22:13 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football.
The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 7:25:26 GMT -5
Well, they way they're playing...we should start getting some better choices.
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Post by gumby on Oct 12, 2018 7:27:39 GMT -5
Is rather not. It took them a looong time to rebuild.
But the moment they got goff it all changed. He was the glue that put all the high draft picks together as a team.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 7:29:24 GMT -5
Is rather not. It took them a looong time to rebuild. But the moment they got goff it all changed. He was the glue that put all the high draft picks together as a team. Ya we have a lot of those high draft picks already in place (Odell, Barkley, Shep, Engram, Hernandez, etc). We need a QB that the players can trust and have confidence in.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 7:33:41 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. So you're saying you start with the running back? Who did we draft again? What? We have the running back like the Rams had Gurley. Now it's time to grab a QB like the Rams then grabbed Goff.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 7:53:41 GMT -5
What? We have the running back like the Rams had Gurley. Now it's time to grab a QB like the Rams then grabbed Goff. I admit to liking the young kid we have now. As I felt last night ...start to work him in at the end of games in the 4th. You don't bench Eli but if you pull him in the 3rd or 4th to keep from getting killed I understand it . I don't think Lauletta is our QB of the future, but I really hope he starts in Atlanta. We have 11 days before Atlanta and their defense is completely banged up. It would be the perfect game to kick the tires on him.
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Post by Waybackfan on Oct 12, 2018 7:59:32 GMT -5
First the NYG has to hire Jeff Fisher.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 8:05:22 GMT -5
We can, we have speed on offense. Get a new qb and fix the trenches. Gettleman has proven to find Ol talent inater rounds. Use the way rounds to get a pass rusher.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 8:06:16 GMT -5
And last year some said do what Philly did. And the year before that, do it the way the Panthers did it. It starts with a QB and this genius GM of ours decided to pass on a QB in a top heavy QB draft. Let's hope what ever QB's are available in the next draft are worth it, because this team will be picking in the top 5 or higher.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 8:16:16 GMT -5
And last year some said do what Philly did. And the year before that, do it the way the Panthers did it. It starts with a QB and this genius GM of ours decided to pass on a QB in a top heavy QB draft. Let's hope what ever QB's are available in the next draft are worth it, because this team will be picking in the top 5 or higher. We got the best player in the draft, and he is leagues ahead of just about every other RB in the league. If you are mad about the Barkley pick, you don't have a clue. They didn't get who you wanted; that doesn't mean they were wrong. In fact, the pick could not have been any better. Thank God we didn't take Darnold.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 8:46:32 GMT -5
And last year some said do what Philly did. And the year before that, do it the way the Panthers did it. It starts with a QB and this genius GM of ours decided to pass on a QB in a top heavy QB draft. Let's hope what ever QB's are available in the next draft are worth it, because this team will be picking in the top 5 or higher. We got the best player in the draft, and he is leagues ahead of just about every other RB in the league. If you are mad about the Barkley pick, you don't have a clue. They didn't get who you wanted; that doesn't mean they were wrong. In fact, the pick could not have been any better. Thank God we didn't take Darnold. If you think taking a RB in a draft that was QB top heavy with the second pick, then it's you who are clueless. Your new GM messiah has set this back, BIG TIME.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 12, 2018 8:47:41 GMT -5
The Rams have won something?
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 8:52:58 GMT -5
We got the best player in the draft, and he is leagues ahead of just about every other RB in the league. If you are mad about the Barkley pick, you don't have a clue. They didn't get who you wanted; that doesn't mean they were wrong. In fact, the pick could not have been any better. Thank God we didn't take Darnold. If you think taking a RB in a draft that was QB top heavy with the second pick, then it's you who are clueless. Your new GM messiah has set this back, BIG TIME. I don't think it was a QB heavy draft. I think the only worthwhile QBs were Baker and Josh Allen. Baker was selected by the time we drafted, and Allen was just too raw/risky when you had the chance to grab Barkley. Darnold was bad in college and bad in the NFL. Rosen is a locker room cancer and an unimpressive player who was not worth pursuing. Thank you Gettleman for making the SMART decision.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 8:53:41 GMT -5
The Rams have won something? 5 games straight. When's the last time the Giants did that?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 12, 2018 8:57:52 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. they need to get some of the bloat off the roster and thats not just the QB,if your making top 5 money and you don't dominate you need to be gone.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 12, 2018 8:59:30 GMT -5
The Rams have won something? 5 games straight. When's the last time the Giants did that? So we should pattern our future after a team that has won 5 straight regular season games? Ok
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 12, 2018 9:01:49 GMT -5
If you think taking a RB in a draft that was QB top heavy with the second pick, then it's you who are clueless. Your new GM messiah has set this back, BIG TIME. I don't think it was a QB heavy draft. I think the only worthwhile QBs were Baker and Josh Allen. Baker was selected by the time we drafted, and Allen was just too raw/risky when you had the chance to grab Barkley. Darnold was bad in college and bad in the NFL. Rosen is a locker room cancer and an unimpressive player who was not worth pursuing. Thank you Gettleman for making the SMART decision. I liked Rosen but the injury history is way to much concussions can end it quick, not sure on Darnold.As far as I'm concerned Barkely was the best player in the draft hands down think he is at almost 800 yards from scrimmage in six games, and he's just getting going.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 9:04:28 GMT -5
5 games straight. When's the last time the Giants did that? So we should pattern our future after a team that has won 5 straight regular season games? Ok No but you can't deny the fact that they are one of the league's best teams. On top of that, they have a ton of young talent and will likely be good for many years to come.
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Post by Waybackfan on Oct 12, 2018 9:07:12 GMT -5
The NYG won't turn it around until they are on "Hard Knocks".
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 12, 2018 9:49:36 GMT -5
Is rather not. It took them a looong time to rebuild. But the moment they got goff it all changed. He was the glue that put all the high draft picks together as a team. You misspelled McVay.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 12, 2018 9:56:25 GMT -5
It should have happened 5 years ago but Reese missed on some huge draft picks. Apple looks like he will be the next gone. He cant defend a double move to save his life. I'm pretty sure Engram will follow. All athlete, not a good football player and cant stay healthy.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 12, 2018 9:58:01 GMT -5
The NYG won't turn it around until they are on "Hard Knocks". I hope they are on it next year. I never wanted them on it but now I do. I wanna be that fly on the wall.
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 10:01:16 GMT -5
It should have happened 5 years ago but Reese missed on some huge draft picks. Apple looks like he will be the next gone. He cant defend a double move to save his life. I'm pretty sure Engram will follow. All athlete, not a good football player and cant stay healthy. Agreed - I have a feeling we are going to purge just about all of the Reese picks. Apple is terrible - I would laugh when people said he was a changed player this year after week 1. He is still the same awful player he always was. Engram has been a huge disappointment as well.
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Post by Eazy E on Oct 12, 2018 10:23:19 GMT -5
When there is a dumpster fire. See who is playing hard, who is vocalizing out there, who doesnt quit. Thats who stays on this team. How is the coach responding during a dumpster fire, no bus driving, does he maintain his goals for the team, are players developing, are we better than the year before at a few things, do the players know who the leader is on this team. As far as the player leaders on offense and defense, does the team know who they are. If they dont they better go find them. A team should be united whether they are winning or losing. There should be no question whether your brother next to you is gonna fight all of the time. There should be no question you fight together, thats the environment you need to have. If its not that way, you better find a way to make it that way GM. Everything and everyone is on the table.
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Post by Eazy E on Oct 12, 2018 10:33:46 GMT -5
As a coach you set a tone, you set boundaries, you create a game plan for winning and have the players believe. As a coach, you have to be able to adjust to situations. You set plans to attack, you acknowledge your strengths and weaknesses, you acknowledge your opponents strengths and weaknesses. As a coach you dispatch responsibilities on the team, you identify the team leaders and make sure the team plan is carried out. As a coach you have to command respect as you walk that sideline.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 10:42:18 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. The biggest turn around came when they got rid of a dog of a HC and hired a young and innovative HC. Unfortunately our owner and GM are stuck in the old school and conservative mentality.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 12, 2018 10:47:09 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. This ownership group is too chicken shit to take chances. Just look at their new hires and their love for Eli Manning. The Rams hired the right GM, the right HC, and drafted the right QB. IMO, the giants hired a pair of yes men that were willing to deal with this washed up QB.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 12, 2018 10:47:59 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. The biggest turn around came when they got rid of a dog of a HC and hired a young and innovative HC. Unfortunately our owner and GM are stuck in the old school and conservative mentality. I agree 100%
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Post by nyg9289 on Oct 12, 2018 10:48:05 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. The biggest turn around came when they got rid of a dog of a HC and hired a young and innovative HC. Unfortunately our owner and GM are stuck in the old school and conservative mentality. Yeah they struck gold with McVay. I'm really hoping the Giants start Lauletta next week. He has 11 days to prepare and then one home game and then the bye week. By that point Lauletta should be fully comfortable and in the full swing of things. We need to see what we have with him before next year's draft. Now is the perfect timing in my opinion.
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Post by lt56 on Oct 12, 2018 11:01:02 GMT -5
The Rams started with Gurley and then drafted Goff, all while filling out solid defensive pieces along the way. Now they're arguably the best team in football. The Giants now have the opportunity to do the same exact thing. Great Point! Have to be PATIENT with this new regime, it is only their first year and no Shurmur and Bettcher don't have all of their pieces in place yet and Veteran players like Beckham, Janoris Jenkins, Colllins they're all still learning these new Schemes. It is going to take maybe sacrificing this year in order to get the rest of the pieces in place this coming off season Offensively, of course QB is top Priority as well as Offensive Line STILL, I swear we're cursed when it comes to Offensive Line, seems like NOBODY can fix it for whatever reason
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