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Post by Nite on Nov 5, 2023 19:31:25 GMT -5
We really need to completely overhaul. This piddling pretend rebuilt 'reset' (btw thats a f**ing joke term) is just that bullshit. Schoen has to clean out the FO completely, get his (and Daboll's) guys in the draft starting with the QB tell Mara to butt out, if Mara says otherwise then Schoen should have his written resignation on Mara's desk the next day. This is a sad stupid joke of a team..
I will give Schoen and Daboll another year as I think he was saddled with the leftover Gettleman crap so it is hard to really see what he can do. Clean slate and go from there. If the various fanbois and fans living in 1978 object then I would direct them to the Lions, Jaguars and even Texans to see how a team can get rebuilt. Its not rocket science yet apparently to those in charge it is...
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 5, 2023 19:37:32 GMT -5
Im not sure what they will do but I think first is draft a QB with their top 3 pick after today can't believe they win another game. At this point I want that first pick.
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Post by McCherry on Nov 5, 2023 19:37:43 GMT -5
this ranks amongst the worst Giants game I've ever seen, and I go back a good ways...Raiders are a terrible team, to be dominated like this is unacceptable. To a first time interim coach, who happens to be a former Giant. This is the type of thing that gets owners fuming. Job security no longer exists for anyone on this team.
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 5, 2023 19:39:19 GMT -5
this ranks amongst the worst Giants game I've ever seen, and I go back a good ways...Raiders are a terrible team, to be dominated like this is unacceptable. To a first time interim coach, who happens to be a former Giant. This is the type of thing that gets owners fuming. Job security no longer exists for anyone on this team. I agree, were we playing a good team, it would be somewhat understandable. The Raiders are not.
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Post by allnygin on Nov 5, 2023 19:46:31 GMT -5
Better find away to get a qb this draft whatever one Dabes wants. Then you better hope you buiild around him unlike how they did with Jones. If we go into next season with 8 as the QB and not a high teir qb recruit it may be what broke the camels back. I can't ****ing take this shit anymore lol.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 5, 2023 19:57:39 GMT -5
Wait till they play Dallas. So much for being our good luck charm. I fired myself from that job lol
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Post by thrax on Nov 5, 2023 20:12:06 GMT -5
this ranks amongst the worst Giants game I've ever seen, and I go back a good ways...Raiders are a terrible team, to be dominated like this is unacceptable. To a first time interim coach, who happens to be a former Giant. This is the type of thing that gets owners fuming. Job security no longer exists for anyone on this team. Trying to be fair, it is harder to prepare for a team whose QB has more talent than tape and a first time coach and OC, this was their "WE'RE FREEEE!!!!" game, but yeah we suck some unmentionable things.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 5, 2023 20:19:09 GMT -5
I almost forgot. Where are those Daniel Jones fans who continously talked down on my guy CJ Stroud to boost Jones up?
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 5, 2023 20:21:25 GMT -5
I almost forgot. Where are those Daniel Jones fans who continously talked down on my guy CJ Stroud to boost Jones up? he went to OSU, he sucks, right, all QBs from there fail...
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Post by babybulls on Nov 5, 2023 20:25:20 GMT -5
As a 50 year season ticket holder who has lived through the good and bad, this was embarrassing
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Post by umenyiouranidiot on Nov 5, 2023 20:27:31 GMT -5
pssst, the problem is ownership
thats the only explanation
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 5, 2023 20:46:35 GMT -5
Im not sure what they will do but I think first is draft a QB with their top 3 pick after today can't believe they win another game. At this point I want that first pick. At this point Arizona has the 1st pick with a 1-7 record, were at 2-7. Arizona might get 1 more win to tie us at 2 but they would need 3 for us to get the 1st pick with 2 wins. Because we beat them in the 2nd game of the season. They're so terrible I don't think they make 3 wins. At this point I don't think we make 3 wins either. They win on the tie breaker. But we can still get our QB with the 2nd or 3rd pick imo.
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Post by Modog on Nov 5, 2023 20:50:34 GMT -5
At this point I want that first pick. At this point Arizona has the 1st pick with a 1-7 record, were at 2-7. Arizona might get 1 more win to tie us at 2 but they would need 3 for us to get the 1st pick with 2 wins. Because we beat them in the 2nd game of the season. They're so terrible I don't think they make 3 wins. At this point I don't think we make 3 wins either. They win on the tie breaker. It's looking more and likely to me that the Cardinals threw away that second half against us. Cardinals are tanking hard. Dobbs was winning too many games for them, so they traded him.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 5, 2023 20:55:35 GMT -5
this ranks amongst the worst Giants game I've ever seen, and I go back a good ways...Raiders are a terrible team, to be dominated like this is unacceptable. To a first time interim coach, who happens to be a former Giant. This is the type of thing that gets owners fuming. Job security no longer exists for anyone on this team. When we brought in DiVito I'm surprised we scored. It looks like an ACL tear for Jones so until we get somebody in the building and he can QB our team DiVito is it. If we lose the remaining 8 games we have a shot at one of the QB's that might be able to turn this franchise around.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 5, 2023 21:04:25 GMT -5
I almost forgot. Where are those Daniel Jones fans who continously talked down on my guy CJ Stroud to boost Jones up? Stroud was a dog at OSU would have taken him in a heart beat. Then again I like Fields to he still has a chance maybe bit Shitcago reminds me of the Giants a lot not a fertile place fOR QBs to learn and thrive.
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Post by Eazy E on Nov 5, 2023 21:09:03 GMT -5
I actually was at the game fellas. Horrendous game. Felt like LV vs Saquan Barkley. 15 yds passing the first 3 qts. So embarrassing.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 5, 2023 21:09:43 GMT -5
To a first time interim coach, who happens to be a former Giant. This is the type of thing that gets owners fuming. Job security no longer exists for anyone on this team. When we brought in DiVito I'm surprised we scored. It looks like an ACL tear for Jones so until we get somebody in the building and he can QB our team DiVito is it. If we lose the remaining 8 games we have a shot at one of the QB's that might be able to turn this franchise around. Once they have the QB then the hard part starts growing him correctly with out ruining him getting areal #1 in here for the kids keeping Sqb to take some pressure off him and making sure that F$%#ing OL is sured up
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 5, 2023 21:12:06 GMT -5
I actually was at the game fellas. Horrendous game. Felt like LV vs Saquan Barkley. 15 yds passing the first 3 qts. So embarrassing. Sorry Easy it sucks I was at all those non competitive blowouts at the end of 2017 Rams raking us at home it was terrible and sickening know how you feel.
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Post by allnygin on Nov 5, 2023 21:13:11 GMT -5
I almost forgot. Where are those Daniel Jones fans who continously talked down on my guy CJ Stroud to boost Jones up? Stroud was a dog at OSU would have taken him in a heart beat. Then again I like Fields to he still has a chance maybe bit Shitcago reminds me of the Giants a lot not a fertile place fOR QBs to learn and thrive. Im a huge GA fan. So when I saw Stroud show up against the dogs who had an insane defense last season and should've beaten them I figured the dude could be a baller .... I heard his scores in the combine on cognition and it scared me away.. sommeitmes this shit isn't hard. Is the dude a blaller or not.. if he's a baller don't over comoplicate it. We have one of the smartest QBs in the NFL and he sucks.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 5, 2023 21:14:48 GMT -5
In recovery believe me some folks that go through that are energy balls. Hasn’t missed a snap all day.. And he’s running every play like it’s his last.. Those dudes have lots of energy to burn
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 5, 2023 21:25:46 GMT -5
Jones knee injury was a non contact injury on grass Giants have some pretty bad luck man feel for the young man, no athlete wants to go out like this on injuries .
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 5, 2023 21:31:58 GMT -5
Hasn’t missed a snap all day.. And he’s running every play like it’s his last.. Those dudes have lots of energy to burn There’s a story that an NFL scout.. probably a Giant.. Was watching tape of three College defensive ends. Two of them are bagging groceries.. the other is mad Maxx. That scout said that Crosby would not make it in the league and that he would be lucky that a team looks in his direction. Now fast forward five years and countless battered quarterbacks left in his wake. He’s in legendary company with Donald, Miller, and J.J. Watt for most tackles for a loss since ‘00. Getting him in the fourth was grand larceny..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 5, 2023 21:35:18 GMT -5
Those dudes have lots of energy to burn There’s a story that an NFL scout.. probably a Giant.. Was watching tape of three College defensive ends. Two of them are bagging groceries.. the other is mad Maxx. That scout said that Crosby would not make it in the league and that he would be lucky that a team looks in his direction. Now fast forward five years and countless battered quarterbacks left in his wake. He’s in legendary company with Donald, Miller, and J.J. Watt for most tackles for a loss since ‘00. Getting him in the fourth was grand larceny.. I remember reading about him coming out lot of guys loved him as a sleeper
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Post by SG88 on Nov 5, 2023 23:55:53 GMT -5
pssst, the problem is ownership thats the only explanation It is the only constant, so I can understand why people would feel that way.
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 6, 2023 0:21:30 GMT -5
pssst, the problem is ownership thats the only explanation It is the only constant, so I can understand why people would feel that way. Me too. What the hell else could it be?
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Post by houndstoothhat on Nov 6, 2023 1:19:28 GMT -5
Think about the 2 Offensive lines we had in both Parcell& Coughlin days… they made the Offense play. It started with a good Center.We got that now, outside of that… we have our LT. so we need 2 IOLs and aRT, then backup. Get it done! Then a serviceable QB BUT… without that we will keep the current crap. Our scouting and parts of ownership that are not football people should be given an ice flow for the winter, period, goodbye.Start there. man o man,,, I remember our Right Guard in the Parcell days. William Roberts, what a land mover. And simple twist or stunts didn’t turn him into a turn style… He was a bad dude. Fix the system Joe or quit. If you don’t you’ll be fired!Simple
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Post by Analyst on Nov 6, 2023 8:00:36 GMT -5
It is the only constant, so I can understand why people would feel that way. Me too. What the hell else could it be? So, are we suggesting that ownership is meddling in the personnel decisions the past 10 years or so? Because that is the only way I can see them having an impact. Certainly Coughlin was upset about it.
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Post by idkaname on Nov 6, 2023 8:57:54 GMT -5
I almost forgot. Where are those Daniel Jones fans who continously talked down on my guy CJ Stroud to boost Jones up? I certainly wasn't part of that but do you believe Stroud is healthy had he been our starter this year? I'll give you 50/50 at best. Regardless, it's silly to believe Stroud could even have a chance at putting together a game like he did yesterday on this squad. Noah Brown 6rec 153yards 25.5avg 1TD Dalton Schultz 10rec 130yards 13.0avg 1TTD Tank Dell 6rec 114yards 19.0AVG 2TD Nico Collins 3rec 54yards 18.0avg 1TD The only stat-line remotely plausible from a player on our roster right now, is Nico collins 3/54/1 TD I can't even remember the last time we've had a WR with 100+ yards and multiple TDs and I'm actually scared to find out.... The offense is dysfunctional...no rhythm, no look of a team that has been practicing for half a year... Lastly, has anyone noticed that EVERY time Daboll calls a timeout (usually on third down), the following play is AWFUL. It's either a complete joke of a play on offense or an easy first down on defense. It's a young team which has to be part of the problem...but man we gotta see some-kind of functional offense by the end of this year....doesn't matter who the QB is, even a medicore scheme/QB should be able to produce AT LEAST 7 points in a game... this is getting ugly
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Post by bavarobeast on Nov 6, 2023 9:20:15 GMT -5
pssst, the problem is ownership thats the only explanation Touché Mara and his cast of clowns are clueless. Also I’m not on board with giving Dabol more time as some are. He’s done too much stupid shit already in two years to prove he’s not a top tier coach.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Nov 6, 2023 9:56:14 GMT -5
It is the only constant, so I can understand why people would feel that way. Me too. What the hell else could it be? I just can’t get with the idea that Mara has that much reach into the day to day operations and player personnel decisions.
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